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Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 10:51 pm
TrutherMay ah thank you for the explanation. so power surge protectors for computers would save them? would laptops be affected? A surge protector protects electronics from a surge in the power line. An EMP induces a surge of electric charge in all components that are susceptible, including the ones inside the device. Think of it like a power surge that doesn't come from one direction, the power line, but comes from all around and surges from within the device itself. In that sense, a surge protector designed to protect from surges in the power main will not help against an EMP. I don't know the specifics of how an EMP would affect solid state electronics (such as microchips, etc.), but anything that can have an electric current induced in it would be vulnerable to some extent. It seems that devices that are turned off would be less vulnerable. It depends on a lot of factors, like I said, not just the characteristics of the weapon used but also the characteristics of the device, the geography, etc. Solar storms, apparently, would not likely do much to computers and the like, but would primarily harm the power grid. The only true protection from an EMP would be to "harden" your electronics by use of a Faraday cage. Most of this information is just what I've gleaned from a few minutes of Google. There's really a lot out there about this particular subject. I'm a bit of a physics nerd, but I am by no means an expert on any of this.
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 11:05 pm
The furthest my research into EMP protection has taken me is that you can improvise a Faraday Cage with an aluminum trash can w/ cover and some duct tape.
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 11:13 pm
Quinz J Morro The furthest my research into EMP protection has taken me is that you can improvise a Faraday Cage with an aluminum trash can w/ cover and some duct tape. A Faraday cage is really a very simple device. A very basic way to shield, for instance, a pocket radio would be to wrap it in plastic wrap or in a sandwich bag and then wrap that in aluminum foil. If you wanted to be super sure you could then wrap that in plastic and then another layer of aluminum foil. The metal deflects the electromagnetism from the device. This same principle can be used in reverse, to keep cell phones from getting a signal and, presumably, to perhaps keep RF tracking chips from broadcasting a signal. The important thing is to make sure there are no gaps in the metal that the EM waves could get through. A simple example is the mesh in the window of your microwave. The holes are small enough that microwave radiation cannot pass through them, effectively shielding you from the microwaves. Any EM waves smaller than that would pass through the holes.
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 11:50 pm
i think you guys need to be more concerned with the increased unemployment rates expected for future 25-54 year olds and also be aware there's going to be a contraction of enrollment in the larger universities while whole departments elsewhere will vanish. In other words, a rather large chunk of the population currently 14-17 will not have college opportunities or related job opportunities.
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Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 8:45 pm
Michael Noire i think you guys need to be more concerned with the increased unemployment rates expected for future 25-54 year olds and also be aware there's going to be a contraction of enrollment in the larger universities while whole departments elsewhere will vanish. In other words, a rather large chunk of the population currently 14-17 will not have college opportunities or related job opportunities. Why should I be worried about that? The current university system is a money racket and I know how to farm and live off the land, and have the land to do it. Unemployment is only a problem for people unwilling to do the jobs that no one wants to do; that's why immigrants are so successful at getting jobs. I'm more concerned about how vulnerable our power grid is. An EMP attack may not happen, but a solar event is inevitable. Unemployment won't kill as many people as a world without electricity will.
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 5:47 pm
have heard of this before. glad i garden and don't live in the city. is emp similiar to how haarp works? only emp is on a much grander scale?
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 6:28 pm
dometress have heard of this before. glad i garden and don't live in the city. is emp similiar to how haarp works? only emp is on a much grander scale? In theory, HAARP could be used as an EMP. sadly, HAARP is much more complex and dangerous than that.
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 9:22 pm
dometress have heard of this before. glad i garden and don't live in the city. is emp similiar to how haarp works? only emp is on a much grander scale? HAARP is an over-the-horizon radar/radio antenna array. I'm not sure if it would be able to generate an EMP. Generating an EMP without a nuclear blast is possible, but it's even more technical and I don't have a clear understanding of it as I didn't look into it too deeply. I consider the sun and nuclear EMP to be the two largest EM threats since it's going to happen eventually with the sun and it's just a lot easier to generate an EMP with a nuke.
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Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 5:18 pm
thanks obscurus. i have alot of reading on these topics to catch up on...got overwhelmed with it all for awhile. But "going" to sleep on all these topics would be foolish now. Must trudge on and try to prepare how we can i suppose.
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:32 pm
the way i see it if it happens it happens there isnt anything we can do to fix so lock up you valuables and grab your gun and protect your neccesities
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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:54 am
TrutherMei the electricity going off is my biggest fear. and it makes sense to me that they would evacuate the cities because without electricity the whole system would collapse. every store could be robbed, no stores cash registers would work so sales would stop, shipping of goods would probably stop, gas pumping would stop, even water could be turned off by the selfish privatized companies because their meters could no longer track how much is used. the people of the cities would run out of food fast, and would be begging for aid. they would beg to go to FEMA camps. I just don't know what I would do in a situation like that, I am not prepared. I would be at their mercy =/ oh god, and what about all the cats and dogs.. man that would be sooooooo horrible! Panic would be just what they want, as Truthers we need to be like beacons of sanity to the sheeple in times of mass panic. I believe the timing to be off, it seems to me that if it occurs it will be close to august/fall months.
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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:57 am
Quinz J Morro As the people I can relate to and care most about on this site I post this message to you. I pray that nothing comes of this information that I present, but it is intensely likely. Please take it to heart, and digest it with a grain of salt. Maybe you distrust my source, or it's poster, but know that I only post the information and thoughts that I feel will uplift the knowledge and safety of those I care for. Quinz Source: http://www.stevequayle.com/News.alert/10_Global/100428.EMP.alert.htmlApril 27, 2010
Steve,
Having listened to Hawk's broadcast, I wanted to pass something along.
Two weeks ago, a lifetime family friend who runs a hunting service, stopped by my office. (He has another business which our business utilizes.) He dropped off our invoice (they are usually mailed) and he said to me, "Can we talk for a minute?"
We went into my office, and he said, "You might want to sit down." He has a hunting client who is retired CIA who told him that the grid would go down in June/July. Our friend told me, "It is to mask the global monetary collapse." He then went on to say that it would be, "either an EMP attack or the Chinese would shut the lights out 'with the push of a computer key.'"
He then said something that I didn't understand (until I heard Hawk's broadcast.) He said, "they are going to evacuate the cities....you don't want to be next to a railroad track."
I thought this sounded funny and I didn't think that I heard it right. Until I heard Greg on Hawk's broadcast.
FWIW
B. MissouriThis is speculation, come at it with critical thinking. Watch for the signs and read the movements as the appear online.
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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:05 pm
huh sounds like the shits about to hit the fan all comunication will be down
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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:09 pm
i seriously doubt its going to be an EMP and why would China turn the lights out
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