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 Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 11:57 am
Prime isn't the last Prime sweatdrop the first book in the series claims Optimus and Megatron to be twins so ... yeah ... way to go writers.
Draco -
You know, a lot of people think the 'Fallen' was Nemesis, I've seen that theory all over the place.
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Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 10:26 am
but there is a difference between the fallen and nemesis prime.the fallen was one of the first 13 transformers made by primus and nemesis prime was created by unicron when he currupted another universe optimus prime.so to all people who think the fallen is nemesis,then they are idiots.
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Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 11:40 am
You're confusing G1 verse with movie-verse, they're linked but not intertwined. There aren't 13 Primes in Revenge (There was in the original script but it was reduced) so who knows what else was changed?
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Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 4:58 pm
it does not matter,the point is that nemesis prime and the fallen are not the same,gen1 or movie-verse.
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 12:47 am
But you don't have proof of that do you?
Given the allowances already made (Reducing the 13 for example) it's more then possible that the film-verse writers decided that 'Nemesis Prime' makes sense to be the Fallen.
Prime's aren't made by Matrix transferral in the film, they're born so a Prime being made to become Nemesis Prime doesn't actually work unless something was done to corrupt Optimus ... which would actually be pretty damned cool ... I would pay to see that film many times ...
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 5:21 am
but remember,the allspark came form another dimention,it could have created a diffrent cybertron in that dimention,where a prime could of found his way to the movie-verse and currupted by unicron to make nemesis prime
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 5:36 am
Nothing in this continuity says that the All Spark was from another universe but to be fair the mythology of this present incarnation hasn't been explored yet.
I mean, we haven't got in to the whole Primus thing yet (Love to see THAT in film 3), we don't know where the All Spark comes from either (Optimus only states that it was there before time began, the tie in graphic novels suggest that he doesn't know, nor does anyone else) which could be something to explore.
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 5:57 am
i read the movie tie in noval and it said that the allspark is not of this universe,suggesting it is form another dimention,and it would be cool to explore the whole primus and origin of the allsaprk thing in the third movie
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 12:32 am
Is it in the novel? Apologies, been a while since I read it.
That and those novels were so badly written, I don't think the writer used a single creative devise except similes in the whole book ... *Is a bit of an English nerd ...*
Oh well, I have a very long flight over to the States to read in (I have Ghosts of Yesterday still to finish and The Veiled Threat to start, though the latter seems a bit more amusing!) coming up soon so ... whoo.
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 6:16 am
i just heard that the twins(mudflap and skids)may not retrun to the thrid movie,i like those two,they are funny as hell.
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 8:20 am
I'd be glad if they went.
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 2:51 pm
but two cars that resemble the twins are on the list of vehicles for the autobots.
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 12:37 am
Which makes me sad.
They should have had Sunny instead ... I mean, they already had Sides!!
I think the new Bay-verse is obsessed with twins ...
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 3:58 am
he is probably too sunny for Bey
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 4:14 am
Quite possibly ...
I think Sunny and Sides together would have been too much awesome. lol
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