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kinnykins


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:05 pm


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Kinny Fear
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Maeko-Hana
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The doctor has a sex life???
Yeah, it's a carry-over from something 10 said at the beginning of End of Time.


See, this is why they need to knock all this pseudo-continuity on the head. I didn't pay attention to *anything* anyone said during the End of Time :/

Obviously, you didn't pay attention to the ending of The Shakespeare Code, either. wink wink


I watched the Shakespeare Code the other week. The only sex life on display *there* was Willy Shakespeare's :/

Hmm, maybe I just made the connection on my own that the "Virgin Queen" would make the Doctor her sworn enemy for only one reason... eek
PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:24 pm


Kinny Fear
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Kinny Fear
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Maeko-Hana
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The doctor has a sex life???
Yeah, it's a carry-over from something 10 said at the beginning of End of Time.


See, this is why they need to knock all this pseudo-continuity on the head. I didn't pay attention to *anything* anyone said during the End of Time :/

Obviously, you didn't pay attention to the ending of The Shakespeare Code, either. wink wink


I watched the Shakespeare Code the other week. The only sex life on display *there* was Willy Shakespeare's :/

Hmm, maybe I just made the connection on my own that the "Virgin Queen" would make the Doctor her sworn enemy for only one reason... eek

Doctor: her nickname is no longer...
me: eek Ack! *tries to poke out my mind's eye*

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kinnykins


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:45 pm


Try using a sonic screwdriver. wink
PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:04 am


Sex life?? Can someone please elaborate? Ise a bit confused about where we get that from in End of Time and The Shakespeare Code?

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kinnykins


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:12 am


The first time the Doctor meets Queen Elizabeth in the Shakespeare Code, she calls him her sworn enemy and sets the guards on him. It was never made clear why until the End of Time, when he briefly comments on "Good Queen Bess," implying he married her. Then in The Beast Below Liz 10 calls him a naughty boy, so much for the Virgin Queen. wink
PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 11:33 am


*facepalm* xp

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:56 pm


Is it just me who noticed how dull this show was? It has just been voted the all time dullest show of Dr Who according to the official Who Magazine.

I am very annoyed at this show because if your in your teens and sit down to properly watch this show then you notice all kinds of weird stuff like Amy knowing the whale would stay put because clearly she unlike us and the doctor, understands the whale so well.
And what is with the computer calling out Amy's age as 1306 and then right after showing her age on screen as 1308???
Id be more concerned with the fact that when they were in the mouth its opening appeared to be no more than a few meters across when in fact when you see it on the external shot it should have been many hundreds of meters (if not miles) across AND why there is a breathable atmosphere in its mouth/body, since a creature who travelled in space would neither want or need an oxygen supply and would probably be harmful to it.
The mouth looks tiny inside.
And how could Amy and the Dr look out the window and see it's huge smiling face behind other buildings when they got spat out into an underground place? There is nothing anywhere near it's mouth and it's obviously not underground so.... WTF?
And what did that dummy do when the kid was about to fall through the lift? One second he looks at him and he is demon dummy next thing we see it is only just turning and shows it's demon face just while falling. I hate this crappy camera work.

I like the time converging thing but seriously that doesn't explain this... WTF? explanation please? I asked one guy and he told me it was for 8yr old so deal with it because they don't have the attention spans we do.
PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 9:35 am


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Is it just me who noticed how dull this show was? It has just been voted the all time dullest show of Dr Who according to the official Who Magazine.

I am very annoyed at this show because if your in your teens and sit down to properly watch this show then you notice all kinds of weird stuff like Amy knowing the whale would stay put because clearly she unlike us and the doctor, understands the whale so well.
And what is with the computer calling out Amy's age as 1306 and then right after showing her age on screen as 1308???
Id be more concerned with the fact that when they were in the mouth its opening appeared to be no more than a few meters across when in fact when you see it on the external shot it should have been many hundreds of meters (if not miles) across AND why there is a breathable atmosphere in its mouth/body, since a creature who travelled in space would neither want or need an oxygen supply and would probably be harmful to it.
The mouth looks tiny inside.
And how could Amy and the Dr look out the window and see it's huge smiling face behind other buildings when they got spat out into an underground place? There is nothing anywhere near it's mouth and it's obviously not underground so.... WTF?
And what did that dummy do when the kid was about to fall through the lift? One second he looks at him and he is demon dummy next thing we see it is only just turning and shows it's demon face just while falling. I hate this crappy camera work.

I like the time converging thing but seriously that doesn't explain this... WTF? explanation please? I asked one guy and he told me it was for 8yr old so deal with it because they don't have the attention spans we do.


You are meant to suspend of your disbelief until the show is over. It has always has been this way in science fiction. Also who says that the wale has to breath oxygen? Maybe it breaths Methane and has large lungs that can hold the distance between planets.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:48 pm


Through the mist we walk...
That was a bit of a mixed bag for me...

For a story that boasted such scintillating ingredients - the creepy guys in the 'fortune-teller' booths, a horrible be-tentacled monster, a moral dilemma, political allegory and a glimpse into the darker side of humanity - you'd think that we'd have seen something good.
But we weren't. I'll try and explain why I think that.

I think the episode fell down in two key places:

First of all, as others have mentioned, the running time simply did not do justice to the ambition of the script and the ideas contained therein. As such, what we got, felt under-developed and only partially formed. In fact, the whole thing just raced by, without a moment for pause or for reflection.

The smilers? Great - a truly iconic look, just perfect for Doctor Who - but they were sidelined so quickly, and ultimately seemed utterly extraneous to the proceedings. A great shame...

Then there was the moral dilemma - interesting stuff, but the script didn't really dwell on it for more than a couple of minutes. It had been solved before you could even get your head around the implications.

The second issue I thought was with the characterisation. Once more, Moffat serves up yet another dislikeable and unsympathetic female character who we're supposed to take to, and, indeed, the impact of vast portions of the script seemed to hinge on us doing precisely that.

I speak here of Liz 10, played by the habitually endearing Sophie Okonedo. And, my God, she was awful...absolutely *awful*! Even if, even *if*, you were charmed by this gun-slinging 'chav queen' who talked only in cliches, here we were presented with a woman who has:

1) Sanctioned the torture of an innocent creature to suit her own ends;
2) Sanctioned the murder of her own citizens to hide her crime - including, yes, children who don't do too well at their tests in school!

I'm sorry, but doesn't that make her a mass-murdering monster?! Towards the climax of the episode, I was expecting her to be thrown into the mouth of the Space Whale (just like her victims) in true Lady Adrasta style!

But, no! The Doctor lets her off and she continues her reign! Though this time, she's promised to be more open with her subjects. Well, isn't that nice of her?! I'm sure the relatives of those whose deaths she ordered will forgive her without a second thought!

Still weirder was the reaction of the Doctor. When confronted with a mass murderer and the humble subjects of a mass murderer, he unleashes his fury at Amy of all people! And her only crime was an entirely well-meaning and innocuous decision to withhold information, which he only found out 10-15 minutes later anyway!

It didn't seem right to me at all.

And the supporting characters, rather than coming across as real people, were expositional at best. Maybe the pacing of the story forced that to be the case, but I didn't feel we were being presented with characters at all - they talked in cliches and everything they said was a plot info-dump, not really the sorts of the conversations that actual people would ever had. The exchange between Mandy and Amy was just bizarre...as if people talk like that!

The more I think about it, the more I think I should really be scoring this episode 'very poor', but I've actually given it 'average'. Despite the above, I did really like some of Moffat's ideas, I thought the acting was OK (not as good as last week from young Amy Pond.), and I thought the Smilers were fantastic.

I guess the episode did have *something* - but it should have been so much more.
And in the mist we all get lost.
 
PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:11 pm


Would you people please stop over-analyzing everything and just enjoy the show like good little boys and girls?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:13 pm


Ceribri
*facepalm* xp


There, there, dear. I'm here now.
So much for "what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas." wink
PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 8:59 pm


And what happens 2 steps from Vegas city limits... is out in the world for all to see.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 9:45 pm


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Would you people please stop over-analyzing everything and just enjoy the show like good little boys and girls?

If we all did that... Well, iunno.... Makes for good debates though.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 12:57 pm


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Would you people please stop over-analyzing everything and just enjoy the show like good little boys and girls?

If we all did that... Well, iunno.... Makes for good debates though.

I honestly don't over analyze and enjoy the show. Which is why when everyone was all over The Eleventh Hour, I was like "chillax guys." But after this episode ended, I was like "...wut?" I felt they had a lot of good ideas that they threw in a 40 minute episode that left it all lacking. I won't say I hated the episode, but it definitely wasn't one I was thrilled about. It just happened so fast, you don't really know what happened.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 9:58 am


Through out these first two episodes there have definitely been positives, e.g. young Amelia, whole town knowing him as raggedy doctor, extended metaphor between Starwhale and the Doctor. But there's always a feeling of something being underdeveloped. In this one it was why did the doctor get mad at Amy for hitting "Forget It" so extremely, and why did the queen feel that it was so terrible, yet keep hitting forget, and the smilers were never fully explained. Moffat wrote some of my favorite episode before so I still am giving him a chance.
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