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So what you're saying is that darkness existed before God?

But I thought God created everything- if darkness existed with God, who created the darkness? And if darkness doesn't exist, why does that passage say that he/she had to separate light from darkness? If darkness doesn't exist, there would be nothing to separate light from.

If you're gonna ask that question then you have to also ask "Who created God?"

...So darkness came into being of its own accord in order to serve part of God's greater agenda. Meaning that there is something which exists that was not created by God? I'm confused because I constantly hear Christians stating that God created everything that is, and yet by your logic there's at least one part of the universe which God did not have a hand in creating- even if he does allow it to exist.


Well, presumably, whomever or whatever created darkness created God, but that isn't my point.


Darkness is definitively the absence of light...so where there is absolutely no shred of light there is pure darkness (as an aside, you could argue that you create darkness by disseminating light, just as you create light by disseminating darkness; the candle analogy isn't very good because you don't actually create light when lighting a candle, you create a chemical reaction that leads to a flame which gives off light- all that means is there isn't a chemical reaction for a flame which gives off darkness). That doesn't mean darkness doesn't exist, because that's what darkness is. Plus you already stated that darkness existed before light- well, actually, you state that darkness doesn't exist, but you implied that it does by stating that God separated the light from "what was already there," and given that darkness is the absence of light, before there was light there must have been darkness. Either God created that darkness, or "what was there before," or he/she didn't, but if he/she didn't then who did- or did it develop of its own accord, outside of God's direct influence?

Oh, forgive me, I copied and pasted the same name without thinking.
I'll edit~.

Very interesting. I suppose my question is more directed toward the fundamentalists that refuse to believe anything could happen outside of God's absolutely direct influence.
Because, if darkness can exist as a natural result of a sequence God set in place consciously knowing how it would work out, that brings into question the validity of how much he/she actually created in the long-run or whether the majority of the world is made up of intentional consequences which God had no immediate say in, but rather permitted in foresight. Couldn't evolution have taken a place by God's design in that way, as well? I mean, there's no real way of knowing what's what, but if we accept that posture that God doesn't have to directly create each and every thing in the universe, then who's to say the only instance in which this kind of incidental reaction occurred was with physical and spiritual darkness, and isn't it possible that much of the "science" which religious people disavow as not being part of God's plan actually is in a consequential way?

Yes but when used in a particular system, there is an agreed upon meaning of what those words mean or the symbolisms associated with them, lest I could say you are a "s**t raving pig ********" and mean that you are "a very decent human being"

Neat.

And that's the divine tragedy, our struggle of Ourself with ourself.

That which is hidden is in darkness. When we find truth the light reveals what is hidden in the darkness. Not everything hidden in the darkness is evil nor is everything hidden in darkness good, but what remains is what is true and you now know what is true. Where you go from there is your choice but with Christ you'll know what you need to do with what you find.

Unless it is within a specific context and the meanings are consistent with that context. To fail to do would destroy all communication all together.