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 Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:42 pm
AniMajor xxEternallyBluexx I think evil or not good. I also think abuse, torture, bloody ceremonies and eventually I come to self-indulgence and athiestic satanism, all which makes me wince. >.< And I know some satanists don't do the illegal bloody stuff, but it still happens. I read the published diary of a kid who got dragged into the occult, and drank blood and prayed to satan with his three friends. They all were killed after having a wish fulfilled, and they were killed in three different accidents. I also read Stairway to Hell which was written by a man who woirked with kids who were hurt by satanism, and dragged up news reports of kids who had killed their friends while worshipping satan. I really don't like any form of satanism. You know the majority of those accounts of "recovered" memories of Satanic child abuse were lies, right? There was a massive scare in the 80's about that, but none of the information made sense. Also, just because you read a book doesn't mean it happened. Go Ask Alice is famous for being the "real" diary of a teenage girl, but it was written by a middle-aged woman to scare kids away from drugs and pre-marital sex. I've heard that, but I haven't seen anything to make me believe it. It's more likely it happened. And I don't see any reason to disbelieve them.
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:47 pm
Lumanny the Space Jew xxEternallyBluexx I think evil or not good. I also think abuse, torture, bloody ceremonies and eventually I come to self-indulgence and athiestic satanism, all which makes me wince. >.< And I know some satanists don't do the illegal bloody stuff, but it still happens. I read the published diary of a kid who got dragged into the occult, and drank blood and prayed to satan with his three friends. They all were killed after having a wish fulfilled, and they were killed in three different accidents. I also read Stairway to Hell which was written by a man who woirked with kids who were hurt by satanism, and dragged up news reports of kids who had killed their friends while worshipping satan. I really don't like any form of satanism. I predict a lot of flaming on this comment. Eternal, worshipping the Devil is actually not what Satanism is about. talk2hand I know the name's misleading, but, in short, Satanism is basically about Satan as a symbol of man himself. Satanism is about the empowerment of oneself as a human and a person. All bowing down to statues of a red demon with a pitchfork and pointy tail? All that drinking blood and sacrificing babies? Bullsh*t. Nevermind the fact that I think of the same words because of how I used to view Satanism before I learned the facts... Yeah, I've kinda come to expect that. sweatdrop But it's more interesting then just another comment about LaVeyan satanism. Not all satanism. I don't really see any good to that either. How do you know? Are there any credible sources that says nothing bad has ever happened in the name of satan? Or that the occult never harms anyone? Plus the question asked for opinions more then facts, so wouldn't it be better to put down what you thought, even if you knew it wasn't accurate?
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:56 pm
xxEternallyBluexx Lumanny the Space Jew xxEternallyBluexx I think evil or not good. I also think abuse, torture, bloody ceremonies and eventually I come to self-indulgence and athiestic satanism, all which makes me wince. >.< And I know some satanists don't do the illegal bloody stuff, but it still happens. I read the published diary of a kid who got dragged into the occult, and drank blood and prayed to satan with his three friends. They all were killed after having a wish fulfilled, and they were killed in three different accidents. I also read Stairway to Hell which was written by a man who woirked with kids who were hurt by satanism, and dragged up news reports of kids who had killed their friends while worshipping satan. I really don't like any form of satanism. I predict a lot of flaming on this comment. Eternal, worshipping the Devil is actually not what Satanism is about. talk2hand I know the name's misleading, but, in short, Satanism is basically about Satan as a symbol of man himself. Satanism is about the empowerment of oneself as a human and a person. All bowing down to statues of a red demon with a pitchfork and pointy tail? All that drinking blood and sacrificing babies? Bullsh*t. Nevermind the fact that I think of the same words because of how I used to view Satanism before I learned the facts... Plus the question asked for opinions more then facts, so wouldn't it be better to put down what you thought, even if you knew it wasn't accurate?
He mentioned he used to and still thinks of devil, evil, and Satan when he hears Satanism only because of how he was raised to be.
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:02 pm
xxEternallyBluexx Lumanny the Space Jew xxEternallyBluexx I think evil or not good. I also think abuse, torture, bloody ceremonies and eventually I come to self-indulgence and athiestic satanism, all which makes me wince. >.< And I know some satanists don't do the illegal bloody stuff, but it still happens. I read the published diary of a kid who got dragged into the occult, and drank blood and prayed to satan with his three friends. They all were killed after having a wish fulfilled, and they were killed in three different accidents. I also read Stairway to Hell which was written by a man who woirked with kids who were hurt by satanism, and dragged up news reports of kids who had killed their friends while worshipping satan. I really don't like any form of satanism. I predict a lot of flaming on this comment. Eternal, worshipping the Devil is actually not what Satanism is about. talk2hand I know the name's misleading, but, in short, Satanism is basically about Satan as a symbol of man himself. Satanism is about the empowerment of oneself as a human and a person. All bowing down to statues of a red demon with a pitchfork and pointy tail? All that drinking blood and sacrificing babies? Bullsh*t. Nevermind the fact that I think of the same words because of how I used to view Satanism before I learned the facts... How do you know? Are there any credible sources that says nothing bad has ever happened in the name of satan? Or that the occult never harms anyone?
I know because I've hung out with different kinds of Satanist.
The cool kind, the one who believes humans are based on Satan or whatever, is an ok guy and is nice to hang around.
The one who believes Satan is a lord scares the s**t-biscuits out of me. He has no idea who God is, he believes Satan because of some kind of metal music he listens to, he pretends Hawaiian Punch is blood because he can't drink real blood.
Not to mention if Satanists DID do these crazy stunts, there would be problems.
Mostly like there would usually be a group or small group of them. Another sign is that if they did do crazy stuff like drinking babies blood, killing people, ect... wouldn't it be on the news? I could see Fox news scraping at the chance to skew some footage about "a cult murder scene" and all that. Problem is, there is none to begin with.
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:14 pm
xxEternallyBluexx I've heard that, but I haven't seen anything to make me believe it. It's more likely it happened. And I don't see any reason to disbelieve them. You find it easier to believe that there are super-secret groups of Satan worshipers who abduct kids then torture and kill them while alerting no one's suspicions for decades, than people made up a story for attention?
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:18 pm
It's more likely it happened.
It's more likely it happened? You have no reason to disbelieve it?
You also have small evidence to believe it. AKA the stories of such.
People believe vampires exist for the exact same reason, stories. People believe marijuina is bad because of stories.
People have a voice, but that doesn't make it right.
There was a quote within a movie
A day or so after the zombies started to spread through the world, the media began to die and only the internet brought the news. However, many of people were talking and all with different opinions. Seeing it all, it just became noise.
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:32 pm
xxEternallyBluexx Lumanny the Space Jew xxEternallyBluexx I think evil or not good. I also think abuse, torture, bloody ceremonies and eventually I come to self-indulgence and athiestic satanism, all which makes me wince. >.< And I know some satanists don't do the illegal bloody stuff, but it still happens. I read the published diary of a kid who got dragged into the occult, and drank blood and prayed to satan with his three friends. They all were killed after having a wish fulfilled, and they were killed in three different accidents. I also read Stairway to Hell which was written by a man who woirked with kids who were hurt by satanism, and dragged up news reports of kids who had killed their friends while worshipping satan. I really don't like any form of satanism. I predict a lot of flaming on this comment. Eternal, worshipping the Devil is actually not what Satanism is about. talk2hand I know the name's misleading, but, in short, Satanism is basically about Satan as a symbol of man himself. Satanism is about the empowerment of oneself as a human and a person. All bowing down to statues of a red demon with a pitchfork and pointy tail? All that drinking blood and sacrificing babies? Bullsh*t. Nevermind the fact that I think of the same words because of how I used to view Satanism before I learned the facts... Yeah, I've kinda come to expect that. sweatdrop But it's more interesting then just another comment about LaVeyan satanism. Not all satanism. I don't really see any good to that either. How do you know? Are there any credible sources that says nothing bad has ever happened in the name of satan? Or that the occult never harms anyone? Plus the question asked for opinions more then facts, so wouldn't it be better to put down what you thought, even if you knew it wasn't accurate?
However, if we listed every act of violence that happened in the name of Satan, I'm sure it would be microscopic compared to the acts of violence performed in the name of Christianity.
Opinions are fine. But educated opinions are better. And I think you can even admit that you don't give Satanism a fair chance because it has "Satan" in the name.
There are aspects of it that I don't agree with, but I think as a whole it's a great way for someone to live their life as it encourages people to be informed and independent.
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:52 pm
Captain_Shinzo Quote: It's more likely it happened.
You also have small evidence to believe it. AKA the stories of such.
People believe vampires exist for the exact same reason, stories. People believe marijuina is bad because of stories.
People have a voice, but that doesn't make it right.
There was a quote within a movie
A day or so after the zombies started to spread through the world, the media began to die and only the internet brought the news. However, many of people were talking and all with different opinions. Seeing it all, it just became noise.
But yeah, I agree that we need to keep ourselves informed if we don't want to be taken advantage of.
Also, if you're into zombie media, have you read World War Z? It's really cool because of how it focuses on the psychological and sociological effects of a zombie apocalypse as well.
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 3:44 pm
xxEternallyBluexx Lumanny the Space Jew xxEternallyBluexx I think evil or not good. I also think abuse, torture, bloody ceremonies and eventually I come to self-indulgence and athiestic satanism, all which makes me wince. >.< And I know some satanists don't do the illegal bloody stuff, but it still happens. I read the published diary of a kid who got dragged into the occult, and drank blood and prayed to satan with his three friends. They all were killed after having a wish fulfilled, and they were killed in three different accidents. I also read Stairway to Hell which was written by a man who woirked with kids who were hurt by satanism, and dragged up news reports of kids who had killed their friends while worshipping satan. I really don't like any form of satanism. I predict a lot of flaming on this comment. Eternal, worshipping the Devil is actually not what Satanism is about. talk2hand I know the name's misleading, but, in short, Satanism is basically about Satan as a symbol of man himself. Satanism is about the empowerment of oneself as a human and a person. All bowing down to statues of a red demon with a pitchfork and pointy tail? All that drinking blood and sacrificing babies? Bullsh*t. Nevermind the fact that I think of the same words because of how I used to view Satanism before I learned the facts... Yeah, I've kinda come to expect that. sweatdrop But it's more interesting then just another comment about LaVeyan satanism. Not all satanism. I don't really see any good to that either. How do you know? Are there any credible sources that says nothing bad has ever happened in the name of satan? Or that the occult never harms anyone? Plus the question asked for opinions more then facts, so wouldn't it be better to put down what you thought, even if you knew it wasn't accurate? Plenty bad has happened in the name of Satan, plenty of people have killed and raped and destroyed in the name of saten. But that's not what Satanism is about. And you can give your opinion while still acknowledging the facts, like I did. I think of the word 'evil' but I know it's not correct, it's just a kneejerk reaction.
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:26 pm
Captain_Shinzo xxEternallyBluexx Lumanny the Space Jew xxEternallyBluexx I think evil or not good. I also think abuse, torture, bloody ceremonies and eventually I come to self-indulgence and athiestic satanism, all which makes me wince. >.< And I know some satanists don't do the illegal bloody stuff, but it still happens. I read the published diary of a kid who got dragged into the occult, and drank blood and prayed to satan with his three friends. They all were killed after having a wish fulfilled, and they were killed in three different accidents. I also read Stairway to Hell which was written by a man who woirked with kids who were hurt by satanism, and dragged up news reports of kids who had killed their friends while worshipping satan. I really don't like any form of satanism. I predict a lot of flaming on this comment. Eternal, worshipping the Devil is actually not what Satanism is about. talk2hand I know the name's misleading, but, in short, Satanism is basically about Satan as a symbol of man himself. Satanism is about the empowerment of oneself as a human and a person. All bowing down to statues of a red demon with a pitchfork and pointy tail? All that drinking blood and sacrificing babies? Bullsh*t. Nevermind the fact that I think of the same words because of how I used to view Satanism before I learned the facts... How do you know? Are there any credible sources that says nothing bad has ever happened in the name of satan? Or that the occult never harms anyone?
I know because I've hung out with different kinds of Satanist.
The cool kind, the one who believes humans are based on Satan or whatever, is an ok guy and is nice to hang around.
The one who believes Satan is a lord scares the s**t-biscuits out of me. He has no idea who God is, he believes Satan because of some kind of metal music he listens to, he pretends Hawaiian Punch is blood because he can't drink real blood.
Not to mention if Satanists DID do these crazy stunts, there would be problems.
Mostly like there would usually be a group or small group of them. Another sign is that if they did do crazy stuff like drinking babies blood, killing people, ect... wouldn't it be on the news? I could see Fox news scraping at the chance to skew some footage about "a cult murder scene" and all that. Problem is, there is none to begin with.Would a site hurt? What's wrong with asking for backup for what you're saying? >.< The guy I know who's closest to being a satanist isn't that bad. He'd actually be really cool, if he quit saying things like 'god is dead'. I doubt it would be, at least, not on the scale you assume. Maybe local news, but unless it was a nationwide threat that was causing more problems, I doubt it'd come up more then occasionally. I mean, kids get abused, people get murdered, and a women in my area kept something like thirty starving cats that had to be rescued. I think people are too used to bad stuff happening to care.
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:35 pm
AniMajor xxEternallyBluexx I've heard that, but I haven't seen anything to make me believe it. It's more likely it happened. And I don't see any reason to disbelieve them. You find it easier to believe that there are super-secret groups of Satan worshipers who abduct kids then torture and kill them while alerting no one's suspicions for decades, than people made up a story for attention? Super-secret? Abduction? O_o I don't think it goes that far...I just think some people who get involved in satanism can get hurt or killed, and that there may be some meetings occasionally where something horrible happens, like people sitting naked in a circle and drinking blood. I don't think it's all that organized though. That's not say there aren't organized groups that don't get people to join and occasionally do really evil things. There's the Children of God for one, though they're supposedly based off Christianity. gonk They're horrible. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_International
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:40 pm
It's more likely it happened. It's more likely it happened? You have no reason to disbelieve it?
You also have small evidence to believe it. AKA the stories of such.
People believe vampires exist for the exact same reason, stories. People believe marijuina is bad because of stories.
People have a voice, but that doesn't make it right.
There was a quote within a movie
A day or so after the zombies started to spread through the world, the media began to die and only the internet brought the news. However, many of people were talking and all with different opinions. Seeing it all, it just became noise.There's people who drink blood. Vampires may not exist, but that doesn't mean no one has tried to do things like them. And marijauna is bad, unless it's used like medicine, and prescribed a doctor. No, but it's more reason to believe something, then not. I like giving people the benefit of the doubt, unless they're nutcases or I have another good reason not to. Have you read The Child Called 'It'? Do you believe it's made up because it's a man's testimony? Would you believe a child who came from an abused family, or would you ignore them because they're telling a 'story'?
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:43 pm
Interesting debate. Do we have any Satanists in this guild??? I don't think we do, cause I haven't read a post from anyone who said they were or anything like that. I definitly used to think Satanism was the whole, build a shrine with baphomets and pour blood everywhere and sacrifice animals. And yes, there are still people out there like that, but it has either died out, or they have changed, or they are in jail. This whole thing makes me think of the West Memphis Three. The town didn't understand what Satanism was and they pointed a blind finger at those three kids. I'm not interested too much in Satanism, but I like to know the differences. So it's interesting to learn that they believe man is built in the image of Satan. And not believing in Satan makes it a little less interesting to me.
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:29 pm
brainnsoup Captain_Shinzo Quote: It's more likely it happened.
You also have small evidence to believe it. AKA the stories of such.
People believe vampires exist for the exact same reason, stories. People believe marijuina is bad because of stories.
People have a voice, but that doesn't make it right.
There was a quote within a movie
A day or so after the zombies started to spread through the world, the media began to die and only the internet brought the news. However, many of people were talking and all with different opinions. Seeing it all, it just became noise.
But yeah, I agree that we need to keep ourselves informed if we don't want to be taken advantage of.
Also, if you're into zombie media, have you read World War Z? It's really cool because of how it focuses on the psychological and sociological effects of a zombie apocalypse as well.Haha as the evidence lies within the thread it's clear the vid was effective, I kid as I'm certain the opinion was had beforehand. [/vague] I've been wanting to read World War Z, specifically for those latter reasons; not much for the zombie part. Although it is my favorite end of the world scenario but other than that I have little interest in the idea.
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:23 pm
brainnsoup Captain_Shinzo Quote: It's more likely it happened.
You also have small evidence to believe it. AKA the stories of such.
People believe vampires exist for the exact same reason, stories. People believe marijuina is bad because of stories.
People have a voice, but that doesn't make it right.
There was a quote within a movie
A day or so after the zombies started to spread through the world, the media began to die and only the internet brought the news. However, many of people were talking and all with different opinions. Seeing it all, it just became noise.
But yeah, I agree that we need to keep ourselves informed if we don't want to be taken advantage of.
Also, if you're into zombie media, have you read World War Z? It's really cool because of how it focuses on the psychological and sociological effects of a zombie apocalypse as well.
No, I haven't read the book. Although it does sound amazing.
If you want, check out "Diary of the Dead".
Best zombie film in my opinion.
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