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 Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:45 pm
brainnsoup DaikonNairu -Ren- brainnsoup But I couldn't resist telling them to go for a swim and removing the ladders... See, there's a little bit of sadistic god in all of us. And the bible does say that we were made in his image. Ever evil humans are capable of committing is an evil that exists within "god".
At least, I never felt love for my Sims. If I ever really wanted them to succeed, it was only for the little animation...See. We're nothing more than God's reality simulation game. 3nodding
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 12:26 am
DaikonNairu -Ren- brainnsoup DaikonNairu -Ren- brainnsoup But I couldn't resist telling them to go for a swim and removing the ladders... See, there's a little bit of sadistic god in all of us. And the bible does say that we were made in his image. Ever evil humans are capable of committing is an evil that exists within "god".
At least, I never felt love for my Sims. If I ever really wanted them to succeed, it was only for the little animation...See. We're nothing more than God's reality simulation game. 3nodding so waccha ganna do bout it?
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:34 am
I hope that the OP realises his line of reasoning causes the paradox that Allah is in fact dooming people to Hellfire and damnation from before the outset for no justifiable or logical reason, other than he feels like it.
That thought process nullifies the entire system of earning your reward that Islam is so heavily founded upon.
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:08 am
HollywoodNobody Lost Journeyer HollywoodNobody Im no master of my own will. The problem is that we HAVE free will, God gave us the option to sin, if he deprived us of our free will, there would be no sin in this world, because we would not be able to make our own choices. Essentially we would all be mindless robots. so if God deprive us of our free there will be no sin? but the problem is there is sin even if we are a mindless robot... How do you know there would be sin if we were mindless robots? Also, how do you define sin? I'm trying to remember something I read in the Catechism a while back, and I know I don't remember all of it, but it was something along the lines of: with no will, there is no sin, and with no law, there is no sin. So, basically, if we don't have free will, it's impossible to sin, meaning that there would be no sin if we were all mindless robots. It all comes down to how you define sin. HollywoodNobody we think we have choice... but we actually dont...everything is what God wants it to be.... even ur post there... there is no single thing that is not controlled by God... why.... cause God is all knowing... God knows that demons will betrayed It-self before God even created them.. what? do you think there is something God doesnt know? "Lets see... Ill create this entity from fire & let see what happens" no... God always knows every ending before there is a begining it self So? How does knowing something equate to causing something? God is supposed to be all knowing, and all powerful, meaning he can do whatever he wishes. That includes doing nothing. And that's exactly what God does with free will. God knows the decisions we will make, but he does nothing. Why? Because for some reason, he has deemed the ability to make our own choices more important than mindless obedience.
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:58 am
Four Mile Sprint I hope that the OP realises his line of reasoning causes the paradox that Allah is in fact dooming people to Hellfire and damnation from before the outset for no justifiable or logical reason, other than he feels like it. That thought process nullifies the entire system of earning your reward that Islam is so heavily founded upon. true.... u could also think it that way... but im not gonna....
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:21 am
HollywoodNobody DaikonNairu -Ren- See. We're nothing more than God's reality simulation game. 3nodding so waccha ganna do bout it? Absolutely nothing. I don't believe in god.
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:37 am
garra_eyes HollywoodNobody Lost Journeyer HollywoodNobody Im no master of my own will. The problem is that we HAVE free will, God gave us the option to sin, if he deprived us of our free will, there would be no sin in this world, because we would not be able to make our own choices. Essentially we would all be mindless robots. so if God deprive us of our free there will be no sin? but the problem is there is sin even if we are a mindless robot... How do you know there would be sin if we were mindless robots? Also, how do you define sin? I'm trying to remember something I read in the Catechism a while back, and I know I don't remember all of it, but it was something along the lines of: with no will, there is no sin, and with no law, there is no sin. So, basically, if we don't have free will, it's impossible to sin, meaning that there would be no sin if we were all mindless robots. It all comes down to how you define sin. i think is how we define God... i know that i asked a question about sin.... but the these whole theory is about/ comes down in to defining God...
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:38 pm
i read some theologians who were saying that the Holocaust drove God insane
because in free will we had been given the ability to cause suffering through sin
but it had never before been taken that far.
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:05 am
chessiejo i read some theologians who were saying that the Holocaust drove God insane because in free will we had been given the ability to cause suffering through sin but it had never before been taken that far. It had always been taken that far. Civiliations are constantly wiping each other out.
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:12 am
Itachi_Hare chessiejo i read some theologians who were saying that the Holocaust drove God insane because in free will we had been given the ability to cause suffering through sin but it had never before been taken that far. It had always been taken that far. Civiliations are constantly wiping each other out. I dunno man. The holocaust was a bit more than just wiping out a people. I mean other things have been done that could perhaps be comparable but not, I don't think, on that scale.
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:49 pm
Well, weren't we originally designed to be ignorant of good an evil? Thus, unable to sin because of ignorance? It was the magic fruit that let us learn right from wrong... So were weren't made to be this way, we disobeyed and made ourselves this way.
Ignoring Genesis, I'd have to say god lets us be bad to ensure our free will. We all do horrible things but we are always allowed to make amends for it. We couldn't be forgiven if we get stuck by lightning wherever we do something horrible. Only with free will and ignorance of the real god can he see who we really are by default.
Did any of that make sense?
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:50 pm
We are sinful because we have free will.
I also don't really believe in original sin. I think the Genesis stories are more metaphorical than literal.
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 4:35 pm
Renkon Root HollywoodNobody DaikonNairu -Ren- See. We're nothing more than God's reality simulation game. 3nodding so waccha ganna do bout it? Absolutely nothing. I don't believe in god. LOLZ. You know, I kind of think that if there were a god that he'd be like the little boy that uses the magnifying glass to burn the ants or the little girl that likes to make little stories with her dolls. smile
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 8:59 pm
cwilder725 Renkon Root HollywoodNobody DaikonNairu -Ren- See. We're nothing more than God's reality simulation game. 3nodding so waccha ganna do bout it? Absolutely nothing. I don't believe in god. LOLZ. You know, I kind of think that if there were a god that he'd be like the little boy that uses the magnifying glass to burn the ants or the little girl that likes to make little stories with her dolls. smile I know I would.
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