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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 12:44 pm
Call Me Apple divineseraph Call Me Apple I think as long as its not attempting mixing Polytheism and Monotheism together, it's possible. I do it, and many hindus do it. Think of the other gods as faces of the one true power- Or in a modern analogy- The Internet is the source of knowledge and wisdom and is something separate from it's parts- It is the combined efforts of people. Each person is their own person doing their own thing, but their central point is the vast infrastructure that they are all part of. Or in nature, how each species is it's own, but they all work symbiotically in the Circle of Life with the higher power of Nature. Mixing monotheism and polytheism? Anyone committed to Monotheism will know that the said God declares worship of NO OTHER GOD BUT HIM. Which is why its mono-theism. I mean, anyone can do what they want religious wise. But I dont consider the person truly following the basic doctrine. Or henotheism. But yeah, monotheism and polytheism could never completely mix. Different aspects involved in the particular monotheistic and polytheistic religions could be shared or combined though.
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 2:20 pm
Call Me Apple divineseraph Call Me Apple I think as long as its not attempting mixing Polytheism and Monotheism together, it's possible. I do it, and many hindus do it. Think of the other gods as faces of the one true power- Or in a modern analogy- The Internet is the source of knowledge and wisdom and is something separate from it's parts- It is the combined efforts of people. Each person is their own person doing their own thing, but their central point is the vast infrastructure that they are all part of. Or in nature, how each species is it's own, but they all work symbiotically in the Circle of Life with the higher power of Nature. Mixing monotheism and polytheism? Anyone committed to Monotheism will know that the said God declares worship of NO OTHER GOD BUT HIM. Which is why its mono-theism. I mean, anyone can do what they want religious wise. But I dont consider the person truly following the basic doctrine. It depends on what you consider religion. Where in Hinduism does it state that you are only to worship Brahman? Christianity, Judaism and Islam are not the only monotheisms. I also believe in, physically, a dualistic monism- There is only one stuff, soulstuff. But that soulstuff splits off into Soul, and corrupts to Matter/Energy. This fulfills both Dualism, as people have both a physical body that is not Soul, and a Soul that is not physical. it is, however, at the core, one thing and is therefore ALSO Monism, primarily. Depending on whether you look at it from a practical perspective or an enveloping one.
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:30 pm
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:50 pm
I don't agree with mixing religions. It assumes that truth is subjective, and I don't think it is. If only one thing is true, then energy should be devoted to discovering what it is, instead of deciding to believe what you like in each religion. The I don't think you really have a strong conviction in anything, but are merely deluding yourself (at least that's how it is with my friend, who's a Muslim with some pagan beliefs mixed in there. She's doing it out of rebellion to her parents, and not out of any real desire to know truth stressed )
Edit: That red and blue video did this simultanously: eek rofl burning_eyes It kinda rocked.
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 9:18 pm
SuchSweetSadism This is where I had a problem with the poll alone. Beliefs, faiths, and religions are seperate entities and only some can be mixed if they don't clash in what defines it in it's very self. Why? Isn't it easily possible to adhere to beliefs which to some, appear to be contradictory but are paradoxically compatible from a certain point of view? I have to agree with Divineseraph in that it is easily possible to be both monotheistic and polytheistic. I fall into the "neither/both" on that question as well. Keep in mind that the declaration of not worshiping any other God but the Abrahamic God is one of the commandments and NOT necessarily inherent to monotheism. People in my culture are so obsessed with categorizing religion they sort of miss the bigger picture. Which brings me to another point, except I really can't figure out how to articulate it. Suffice it to say I think we spend way too much time trying to put religions into boxes. A person only ever has one religion. How many boxes it fits into is an artifact of our social constructs more than anything else.
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:25 pm
I think that Monotheism and Polytheism can be easily mixed. Many religions have exceptions to their beliefs.
Take Christianity for example. It holds that there is 1 God. Yet many denominations worship the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost as individual entities. Most denominations hold that they are all separate, yet part of a whole. There are other Christian groups that revere angels and saints as well, holding them to be Divinely gifted and just a hair lower in spiritual hierarchy from Christ, with God the Father as figurehead in every case.
In many Pagan traditions, it is held that there is the Goddess Mother of all. She is One, but she is worshiped as different entities, such as the Maiden, Mother, Crone trilogy.
Even the Romans had a belief that they had many gods to govern the different aspects of their life, but all of those gods were believed to be beholden to Something higher.
Polytheism is just a natural way for humanity to break down the overwhelming concept of a Creator Who has the control of all. Monotheism is just humanity's way of bringing it all back together.
In the end, I think everyone would have come to their own conclusions, if there were no religions to try to "guide" us. I don't believe that anyone is truly practicing a religion when they are trying to modge-podge them together, but I don't believe taking the tenants that you believe from each religion to form the basis of your faith is bad. Faith and religion are 2 different things.
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An illustration of this can be had from my own children. One who is 8 now, and one who is 3. I have never really forced religion on them because I feel that it is too restricting, yet I talk to them everyday about God.
I don't tell them what I believe, I ask them what they believe. They could tell me about things that they feel is right and wrong, they know there is a greater force in nature that created everything, and set natural law. They don't judge and they accept people as they are without judgement.
My oldest is starting to want more answers, but he already has a solid foundation for what he believes, his faith doesn't need a name, but he is ready to put a name to it. My 3 year old tells me things everyday that brings me back to what I feel most religions have lost, just as my oldest did when he was her age.
They will decide what religion, if any, that they want to belong to when they are older. I will never think that they are without God, if they do not choose a religion, when their faith in a Creator is so strong.
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Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:21 pm
i believe it is possible
and even popular
to practice varieties or variants of a faith
for instance, there are many different kinds of Roman Catholicism, from social activist to traditionalist conservative, from mystical to practical, but they all fit within one system
we mennonites have high and low styles
and now they are even making pacifism optional, which is sad
but our fundamental principle has always been freedom of individual conscience, so we try not to tell people how to believe
that leaves room for a lot of variation.
so with all this variety, why go putting different faiths in the blender together?
why not just make personal adaptations to one of them, and go with that?
in the end, it may amount to the same thing anyway.
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Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 5:07 pm
xxEternallyBluexx I don't agree with mixing religions. It assumes that truth is subjective, and I don't think it is. If only one thing is true, then energy should be devoted to discovering what it is, instead of deciding to believe what you like in each religion. The I don't think you really have a strong conviction in anything, but are merely deluding yourself (at least that's how it is with my friend, who's a Muslim with some pagan beliefs mixed in there. She's doing it out of rebellion to her parents, and not out of any real desire to know truth stressed ) Edit: That red and blue video did this simultanously: eek rofl burning_eyes It kinda rocked. The truth is objective, but what if that truth is made up of the viewpoints of the various religions, with all of them being partially right? If you connect the partially right parts, you find truth. for example, with the red balloon. "The balloon is red and a cube and filled with water." "The balloon is green and round and filled with ice." "The balloon is black and star-shaped and filled with air." Well, what if you think the balloon is actually red, round and filled with air? Are you a heretic to all of the options given? Or are you taking the correct parts and leaving the falsities for the truth?
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Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 12:39 am
xxEternallyBluexx Edit: That red and blue video did this simultanously: eek rofl burning_eyes It kinda rocked. I like the argument that you can be a part of every religion just because you don't have to be good at them to be a part of them.
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:22 pm
Honestly, trying to "mix" religions because you want an element of x is kind of silly since almost every religion has a variety of traditions that incorporate elements classically considered to be a features of another.
If you are a Christian and believe in reincarnation or animism, you don't have to "borrow" it from Hinduism, various forms of Origenism already had it.
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:52 pm
You either are or you aren't. There's none of this back-and-forth, yes-and-no, flip-flopper stuff. Either pick a religion or choose not to have one.
I will concede that it is possible to take from multiple religions, such as being a Jew with Buddhist values or an Agnostic with a slightly Christian view of the world. In fact, I will admit that learning from eachother in that way is the best way to go.
But you are still one or none. A Jew with Buddhist values is still only a Jew and not a Buddhist, and an Agnostic with a Christian worldview is still and agnostic.
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:37 pm
I'm a Christian, but I have a lot of Hindu tendencies. I've read an essay by a theologian who is both a Buddhist and a Quaker.
I think religious is ultimately about understanding God, and each religion has a unique approach to understanding God. I think it's okay to draw from other faiths. I like the Hindu expression of a multi-faceted God, which it why I identify so strongly with it, but my beliefs are Christian at the core.
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Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 12:02 am
Lumanny the Space Jew You either are or you aren't. There's none of this back-and-forth, yes-and-no, flip-flopper stuff. Either pick a religion or choose not to have one. I will concede that it is possible to take from multiple religions, such as being a Jew with Buddhist values or an Agnostic with a slightly Christian view of the world. In fact, I will admit that learning from eachother in that way is the best way to go. But you are still one or none. A Jew with Buddhist values is still only a Jew and not a Buddhist, and an Agnostic with a Christian worldview is still and agnostic. I agree. 3nodding
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Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 1:41 am
Lumanny the Space Jew But you are still one or none. A Jew with Buddhist values is still only a Jew and not a Buddhist, and an Agnostic with a Christian worldview is still and agnostic. I agree that there are many religions with which this doesn't work, but there are some with which there's no issue. One can happily be a Wiccan and an Asatruar, for example. It will depend on how the religion is defined, how it's practised and the opinions of the gods or spirits involved (if applicable).
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Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:54 pm
Lumanny the Space Jew You either are or you aren't. There's none of this back-and-forth, yes-and-no, flip-flopper stuff. Either pick a religion or choose not to have one. I do. I'm a Chaos Magician. One of my practices involves switching between multiple religions and faiths ON WILL. Many Chaos Magicians completely ignore the rules of the religions in question. I, will be a bit ethical, but will go at any open religion. Closed ones, I don't touch, but if it's even a slightly bit open, I'm going at it. So I can be a Christian one day, and a Hellenic Reconstructionist the other. Sure, that's pissing off Him, but He makes His displeasure known. rofl
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