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 Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:03 am
dl1371 Out of curiosity, then what would you call someone who was having trouble deciding what religion they were part of? I would not refer to them by religious terms at all, then. But if they are still ethnically Jewish then I would call them Jewish.
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:37 am
Lumanny the Space Jew Julri Lumanny the Space Jew Julri Lumanny the Space Jew Call Me Apple Im in agreement with you. I was taught that being Jewish was being part of the Jewish religion, not a damn ethnicity -.- Well that's where this question gets complicated. Judaism is an ethnicity, but it is only passed through the mother, so one cannot be half-Jewish by ethnicity. That's kind of confusing. So, if someone's mom is ethnically Jewish and their dad is black or French or whatever, they're still just Jewish?
Also, does it just pertain to Judaism, or from a Jewish perspective are all people ethnically just what their mom is? If your mom is Jewish, you're ethnically Jewish. If you're another ethnicity and also ethnically Jewish, then your ethnicity is both. Plenty of people have multiple ethnicities. I'm kind of confused about how these sentences can both be true. So, ethnically speaking, are they just Jewish or are they both? My ethnicity is Jewish, and also Caucasian. Like that. It's not a big deal. Oh, okee dokee. I think I was just getting confused because "Jewish" refers to both an ethnicity and a religion, so I wasn't sure which one you were talking about.
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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:02 pm
I guess they are referring to their ethnicity. I'm partially Jewish by ethnicity, but atheist by (non)religion. That makes me part-Jewish if we're referring to ethnicity.
A "Jew" is a very confusing term. There's no agreement whatsoever on what makes someone a Jew, as can be seen through this thread...
I'm sure it has nothing to do with the Jewish religion. No one claims to be half Christian right?...
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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:22 pm
Im A Little Pea I guess they are referring to their ethnicity. I'm partially Jewish by ethnicity, but atheist by (non)religion. That makes me part-Jewish if we're referring to ethnicity. A "Jew" is a very confusing term. There's no agreement whatsoever on what makes someone a Jew, as can be seen through this thread... I'm sure it has nothing to do with the Jewish religion. No one claims to be half Christian right?... I'm inclined to agree with you, except that the way its supposed to work is if your mother is Jewish, then you're all Jewish. If your father is Jewish but your mother is not then you're not Jewish (no halves about it). Also, because the term "Jewish" refers to both an ethnicity and a religion I, personally, would considder a "half-Jew" to be anyone who belongs to one but not the other. Someone who follows the faith but was not born into it or someone like me who was born into it but has chosen not to follow the faith. That's what I would considder to be "Half Jewish". This is all just opinion, of course.
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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:15 pm
DaikonNairu -Ren- Im A Little Pea I guess they are referring to their ethnicity. I'm partially Jewish by ethnicity, but atheist by (non)religion. That makes me part-Jewish if we're referring to ethnicity. A "Jew" is a very confusing term. There's no agreement whatsoever on what makes someone a Jew, as can be seen through this thread... I'm sure it has nothing to do with the Jewish religion. No one claims to be half Christian right?... I'm inclined to agree with you, except that the way its supposed to work is if your mother is Jewish, then you're all Jewish. If your father is Jewish but your mother is not then you're not Jewish (no halves about it). Also, because the term "Jewish" refers to both an ethnicity and a religion I, personally, would considder a "half-Jew" to be anyone who belongs to one but not the other. Someone who follows the faith but was not born into it or someone like me who was born into it but has chosen not to follow the faith. That's what I would considder to be "Half Jewish". This is all just opinion, of course. I actually believe the two should be separated. Someone who isn't from a Jewish decent, but converts to Judaism, and believes in it in all their heart and soul, shouldn't be looked at as "half-Jewish" just because they aren't a part of the Jewish people. He's completely inside the religion, and religion-wise, they're 100% Jewish. Ethnicity is something else. Whether it's your mother or your father (and now we're confusing religion with ethnicity, when saying it's only determined by the mother as it is with the religion), who are of Jewish decent, I don't think it matters. Would it matter, if it was your mother or your father who were Chinese, to make you someone of a Chinese decent? I think if any one of your parents is Jewish by ethnicity, then it doesn't really matter which one of them. Ethnicity and religion aren't the same, even though with the Jews who have always been pretty much segregated and never tried spreading their religion, it goes well together. Still I think it's not the same thing.
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:12 pm
DaikonNairu -Ren- Im A Little Pea I guess they are referring to their ethnicity. I'm partially Jewish by ethnicity, but atheist by (non)religion. That makes me part-Jewish if we're referring to ethnicity. A "Jew" is a very confusing term. There's no agreement whatsoever on what makes someone a Jew, as can be seen through this thread... I'm sure it has nothing to do with the Jewish religion. No one claims to be half Christian right?... I'm inclined to agree with you, except that the way its supposed to work is if your mother is Jewish, then you're all Jewish. If your father is Jewish but your mother is not then you're not Jewish (no halves about it). Also, because the term "Jewish" refers to both an ethnicity and a religion I, personally, would considder a "half-Jew" to be anyone who belongs to one but not the other. Someone who follows the faith but was not born into it or someone like me who was born into it but has chosen not to follow the faith. That's what I would considder to be "Half Jewish". This is all just opinion, of course. I like this point, in that it is well reasoned out, but I disagree. Being either one but not the other is still a whole Jew. One does not need both to be a full Jew, but only one. Also, how would that work? Would someone with a gentile mother always be a Half-Jew, even after full conversion? Would they study to be a Half-Jewish Rabbi?
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