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| How much choice do we have over our beliefs? |
| Very little. People are drawn to certain beliefs, they don't truly choose them. |
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| Some. There are some things we just naturally believe and other things we learn to believe. |
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| A lot. People have the ability to actively change what they believe in. |
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 Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:44 pm
I believe it is a choice, but its hard to make a choice when you have parents stuffing bibles down your throat and up your a... nevermind. People have a choice, its just whether or not they are given an opportunity to make that choice.
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 6:22 pm
To me, belief is not choice, just like loving someone is not a choice.
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 6:34 pm
Belief is largely a choice, but not from a blank slate.
An individual's specific morals and values influence that decision on a huge scale. Not to mention if you were raised in a particular religion...
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 7:41 pm
Lumanny the Space Jew Belief is largely a choice, but not from a blank slate. An individual's specific morals and values influence that decision on a huge scale. Not to mention if you were raised in a particular religion... This.
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 11:05 am
redwolfshadow I believe it is a choice, but its hard to make a choice when you have parents stuffing bibles down your throat and up your a... nevermind. People have a choice, its just whether or not they are given an opportunity to make that choice.
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 11:07 am
What I mean by "not a choice" is that you can't control what you believe. Of course you evaluate what you think is true, but that's not really a choice.
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 11:32 am
Artto What I mean by "not a choice" is that you can't control what you believe. Of course you evaluate what you think is true, but that's not really a choice.
Or at least, maybe it can be a decision for everyone, just not a conscious one.
I'm having trouble wording exactly what I want to say in emotional Saturday afternoon haze. But it's like, have you ever had a thing for your best friend's girl/guy. And you know it's not acceptable, so you try to convince yourself that your feelings aren't real or they're something else, and eventually you start believing it?
Kind of like that.
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 11:45 am
brainnsoup But it's like, have you ever had a thing for your best friend's girl/guy. And you know it's not acceptable, so you try to convince yourself that your feelings aren't real or they're something else, and eventually you start believing it? Kind of like that. No, not really. If I have a thing, I have a thing. I can control not acting on it, but I really can't grasp the concept of lying to yourself.
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 2:06 pm
Artto brainnsoup But it's like, have you ever had a thing for your best friend's girl/guy. And you know it's not acceptable, so you try to convince yourself that your feelings aren't real or they're something else, and eventually you start believing it? Kind of like that. No, not really. If I have a thing, I have a thing. I can control not acting on it, but I really can't grasp the concept of lying to yourself.
But if you can say that you've never been in a situation that was too painful to deal with consciously, you must not be human. XD
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 2:14 pm
I always had a feeling of a supreme being. Went to many churches, diffrent denominations and practices. I found that none where ,in my opinion, perfect. I absorbed what I thought to be good from each one and left the other things behind. After becoming an adult and choosing my own time and place for baptisum (I was searching and did feel a pulling) I experience the infilling of the HOLY SPIRIT and spoke in other tongues.This was something not man made or induced. I stick close to what I have experienced and have been continuosly stimulated since that time; so at this point I don't know of anything in exisistance that can compare or take me away from this mind set.
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 5:51 pm
brainnsoup It's not a conscious thing. You don't consciously choose to lie to yourself. Then it's not a choice, is it?
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:11 pm
Artto brainnsoup It's not a conscious thing. You don't consciously choose to lie to yourself. Then it's not a choice, is it?
What I mean to say is, you have some control over it. No one is a slave to what they believe unless they choose to surrender control.
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:33 pm
brainnsoup Damn semantics... What I mean to say is, you have some control over it. No one is a slave to what they believe unless they choose to surrender control. I think that in this case it's all about semantics. I think that everyone is a "slave to what they believe", though I don't see why the word "slave" is necessary here. Well, I've expressed my opinion anyway, and I don't really understand any other in a proper sense I guess.
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 2:10 pm
i think we can to a point. your parents or enviroment can lead you to various ways of believing, but unless you foreclose on it and give it no thought of your own, you learn other ways of believing, and will likely find something that bends more to what you truly feel.
but i also think that sometimes, when we actively try and give up what we were raised to believe and instead want to believe something else, we end up going back to the 'mother faith' (the one we mostly know) when things get really hard, or others start badmouthing the way you initially believe.
I can't really say why it is this way, but it seems like after everything is said and done and all the chips fall, most seem to go back to the way they came from.
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:36 pm
At any given moment, someone's belief can keep them from wanting to shy away from believing in a God/Goddess/etc. It's really about what you want to be real to you.
I believe we can change our beliefs if we want them to and the transition is easy enough if you allow it to be. Influences can definitely factor into this and I believe it's mostly the reason that people start to believe. We aren't born as a religious person, we learn about religion from our parents, friends and community/society.
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