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 Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 7:08 am
There are a few hypocrites who claim to be Christian, but really just go out ruining our good name. I believe in everything that the bible says, and I'm actually a pretty strong believer myself. However, I don't believe that God would make anyone not the way He wanted them to be. If He makes someone homosexual or bisexual, then what's the point at yelling or screaming at them? He made them that way, so we have no right to judge or preach at them. Don't quote me on it, but that's my perssonal opinion.
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 12:56 pm
Archangel Apollo Amber6153 I have not seen anything in my bible about a woman being locked up when she is on her period. I have however, read about the time of a woman's period being unclean. I have read that it is unclean to have sex with a woman on her period. Nothing about having her locked up though. And the reason there is a lot of people that are afraid of gays is because they don't understand, and its NOT just Christians in that group of people either. It's hard to define "normal" as it is a stereotype, and many people may not fit any one definition. Where are people getting these mixed up ideas about what is said in the Bible? Was that a question out of curiousity of what others posted, or was it a way of asking me what the hell I was talking about? confused
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 9:24 pm
This is something I posted in another Guild on the topic similar to this one:
Hey! I wouldn't force myself to be straight even if someone would pay me. For the longest time, I was so afraid that I would be sent to Hell cause of whom I love. So I began to research it and study the Bible over it. I've found three passages against it and one that doesn't condem it.
Levitcus 18:22
Leviticus 20:13
Leviticus also tells us not to cut our hair, shave or wear clothing made of two different threads. I bet the shirt you're wearing has two dif threads, doesn't it? And I bet you've cut your hair before too.
Romans 1:26-27
In Romans, homosexuality is just one of numerous sins that are listed from which we commit every single day of our lives.
1 Corinthians 6:9-11
Here it is stated that sins are forgiven by the Lord once you repent and give your life to Him. Homosexuality is one of the listed.
These helped me out a lot. ^^ I read the 1 Corithians passage over and over again. I was so happy. ^^ haha My whole life, I've loved the Lord and I worshiped his consitently. But once I realized who I was, I began to fear what would happen just because of who I was. I prayed over it and I found these verses. I hope this helps... if it doesn't, I'm sorry.
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 10:18 pm
my opinion on this is why did god make us all so different if he wanted us to be the same?
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 11:03 pm
Sora_ookami This is something I posted in another Guild on the topic similar to this one: Hey! I wouldn't force myself to be straight even if someone would pay me. For the longest time, I was so afraid that I would be sent to Hell cause of whom I love. So I began to research it and study the Bible over it. I've found three passages against it and one that doesn't condem it. Levitcus 18:22 Leviticus 20:13 Leviticus also tells us not to cut our hair, shave or wear clothing made of two different threads. I bet the shirt you're wearing has two dif threads, doesn't it? And I bet you've cut your hair before too. Romans 1:26-27 In Romans, homosexuality is just one of numerous sins that are listed from which we commit every single day of our lives. 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 Here it is stated that sins are forgiven by the Lord once you repent and give your life to Him. Homosexuality is one of the listed. These helped me out a lot. ^^ I read the 1 Corithians passage over and over again. I was so happy. ^^ haha My whole life, I've loved the Lord and I worshiped his consitently. But once I realized who I was, I began to fear what would happen just because of who I was. I prayed over it and I found these verses. I hope this helps... if it doesn't, I'm sorry. I really want to thank you for posting this. I too found many of these verses when I first started coming to the realization that I had sexual feelings for other men. I am of the opinion, that God made me how I am for a reason, and I know in my heart, that he is not going to damn me to hell simply for being the way he created me to be. I never made the decision to be bisexual, I just am. I didn't wake up one morning, and say hay, you know what, I think I won't have a sexual preference (even if so many stupid people think it works that way, that does not happen to a truly straight person.) If God would damn his creation for simply being born, created the way he choose, then, and I know it sounds cold, dare I say even rash, I would turn my back and walk willingly into hell with my head held as high as I could hold it under the circumstances.
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Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 10:26 am
Amber6153 Archangel Apollo Amber6153 I have not seen anything in my bible about a woman being locked up when she is on her period. I have however, read about the time of a woman's period being unclean. I have read that it is unclean to have sex with a woman on her period. Nothing about having her locked up though. And the reason there is a lot of people that are afraid of gays is because they don't understand, and its NOT just Christians in that group of people either. It's hard to define "normal" as it is a stereotype, and many people may not fit any one definition. Where are people getting these mixed up ideas about what is said in the Bible? Was that a question out of curiousity of what others posted, or was it a way of asking me what the hell I was talking about? confused
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Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 2:01 pm
Archangel Apollo Amber6153 Archangel Apollo Amber6153 I have not seen anything in my bible about a woman being locked up when she is on her period. I have however, read about the time of a woman's period being unclean. I have read that it is unclean to have sex with a woman on her period. Nothing about having her locked up though. And the reason there is a lot of people that are afraid of gays is because they don't understand, and its NOT just Christians in that group of people either. It's hard to define "normal" as it is a stereotype, and many people may not fit any one definition. Where are people getting these mixed up ideas about what is said in the Bible? Was that a question out of curiousity of what others posted, or was it a way of asking me what the hell I was talking about? confused simple missunderstandings. most of it is probably just people stating what they heard from other people. Rumours, nothing else. Others may have gotten these ideas from other versions of the Bible. The King James version, I am told, is the closest english translation you will find to the orginal Bible(that, I would like find out for myself). The International Version is merrly an up-to-date version of the KJ. Meaning it doesn't use old english. It also depends on how you read it. If you read it with an open mind, your more likely to get more meaning from it, and your more likely to find major verses. Thats what I've found anyway. Those that read it just because they want to use the Bible against Christians are bound to get little meaning out of it, same goes for those who want to use the Bible against those who don't fit what they feel is right. Both are only going to look at one end of the argument.
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Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 8:05 pm
Amber, thank you. *bows* You just brought up a fact that I have been trying to tell people for a very long time.
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 2:13 pm
I agree though I don't go by the Bible. I read it like any other fiction book.
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 7:45 pm
But I'm confused. I am not a believer. And I am bisexual.
I've read this little pamflet that those who are homosexual need to stop being as such and heal themselves. Hetersexual people around them need to help the homosexual heal, and tell them that homosexuality is a sin.
I'm still trying to figure out my religion/philosophy.
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 1:43 pm
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 7:19 pm
Then why is homosexuality or bisexuality a transgression? or "sinful"?
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 1:55 pm
I was looking through my bible a few days ago, and in the new testament I did not find a reference anywhere saying as to weather or not Jesus ever even commented on homosexuality. The Old testament is full of stuff on the topic of sexuality, but the way I have come to understand it, with the coming of christ all of that went out. No more animal sacrifice, no more strange rules about if you do this on a certain day then you should be condemned to death, or if you sacrifice this this way in this place then you should be banished. There is a lot of good stuff in the old testament granted, but at the same time, if you have ever bothered to read it, then you will notice that it is also filled with a lot of outdated contexts -- Most if not all of which modern pastors and clergymen would frown upon. Any ideas on this?
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 5:55 pm
But their are diffrent versions of the Holy Bible, what are they, and what is the right one?
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:58 pm
The King James version is the most true text to the original Aramaic scripts. (That is according to the catholic church) The newer versions are mostly modern translations of the King James version, created so modern readers could better understand the bibles message. So for the most part the versions all have the same general meaning. (This is all of course assuming that you are standing to the belief that various Popes and their Cardinals have never strategically alter anything to fit their needs at various points in history.)
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