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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 9:32 pm


personally i say the only book worth reading of hers is sacred flame, the ride a silver broomstick and stir a cauldron are just both repeats of what eventually ended with sacred flame. but in truth i think shes a sell out. wicca/witchcraft has alot of personal responsibility to ourselves and others, not a how to get out of groundation spell. remember the three fold rule and if youve been grounded chances are you did something to deserve it. gardner and others are good, the blue book (bucklands) is good too but his reads like stereo instructions
PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:32 am


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personally i say the only book worth reading of hers is sacred flame, the ride a silver broomstick and stir a cauldron are just both repeats of what eventually ended with sacred flame. but in truth i think shes a sell out. wicca/witchcraft has alot of personal responsibility to ourselves and others, not a how to get out of groundation spell. remember the three fold rule and if youve been grounded chances are you did something to deserve it. gardner and others are good, the blue book (bucklands) is good too but his reads like stereo instructions


Witchcraft isn't the same as Wicca.

As I've said before, the 3-Fold Rule isn't part of Wicca. If a person wants to adhere to it, so be it - that's their perogative. It isn't a mandatory part of Wicca, though. Same goes for the Rede.

Buckland is not the best available source on Wicca. He had a rushed and hurried training, which left it rather incomplete. He has made claims in the past that are outright lies, and is racist towards the Roma people, to boot.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 1:52 am


I found her kind of helpful years ago when I was first exploring various Pagan/Wiccan faiths, but once I got to know a little bit more, I found her books less and less useful. I suppose there's some truth to her books, but I don't agree with a lot of what she says, which makes it difficult for me to figure out exactly what I do agree with her on.
PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:07 am


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:12 am


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:13 am


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Lucas Moonrose

If there another source/author that you could Recommend?


Purely for basic concepts of magic, especially for someone just starting out, I'd recommend anything by Scott Cunningham, especially Solitary Wicca, Earth Power and Earth, Air, Fire & Water.


Erm... I know I'm not much help when it comes to this subject, but "Solitary Wicca" just seems like a red flag right there.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:22 pm


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If there another source/author that you could Recommend?


Purely for basic concepts of magic, especially for someone just starting out, I'd recommend anything by Scott Cunningham, especially Solitary Wicca, Earth Power and Earth, Air, Fire & Water.


Erm... I know I'm not much help when it comes to this subject, but "Solitary Wicca" just seems like a red flag right there.


What is wrong with Solitary Wicca?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:21 pm


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What is wrong with Solitary Wicca?

Wicca can not be practiced solitary.

Let's start at the beginning.

Wicca is an orthopraxic religion, meaning that correct practice is tantamount. Practicing the faith in the correct manner is even more important than holding "correct" beliefs. It is usually through the experiences one has during the rituals (which are done in the correct manner) that one forms their beliefs.

Now, in order to practice Wicca in the correct manner, one must be in a coven environment. Even if a Wiccan is having to work solo because s/he can not meet up with his/her coven, the rites are not proper Wiccan rites. They may be Wiccan-flavoured, but since they are not done in the proper manner, the rites are not Wiccan. It doesn't mean those rites are invalid or wrong - it just means they're not Wiccan and can't be called such.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:58 pm


Having said that, Cunningham's "Guide..." isn't too bad a beginner's text. Imo, anyway. Not for Wicca, of course, but for his own Standing Stone tradition.
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Lucas Moonrose
Can anyone tell me anything about Dorothy Morison and Gary Cantrell?


Morrison, if I am not mistaken is a member of the Georgian Trad. Which is an initiatory witchcraft trad, and while it may have similarities to Wicca, it is not Trad Wicca.

Cantrell I'm not really sure. His Llewellyn bio, says eclectic Celtic coven, but it also mentions initiation into Wicca. However, if I had to make a guess, I'd say it was probably not into Trad Wicca.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:25 am


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Penczak recomend Ravenwolf's To Ride a silver Broomstick as reading for this year...I kinda laughed when I saw that....
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:04 am


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If you're interested in that type of paganism, Scott Cunningham and Raymond Buckland both have a lot of books out there. Just be aware that what both of them refer to as Wicca is not considered to be so by many pagans. I know a lot of people that like Buckland's "Big Blue Book" but I haven't read it. I'd moved onto more Northern themed stuff before I got around to buying it.


Cunningham is fine and Buckland's Big Blue book as well, however most of his (Buckland's) other stuff should be taken with a large grain of salt.
As I said, they're not really my path but Buckland's Wicca for One was the first pagan book I ever read. It wasn't bad but, as I know now, not wicca. There are some other issues there but I thought it was a decent introductory type of book. Beter than Ravenwolf at least. As to many of his other books, I wouldn't know, since I haven't read most of them.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 3:15 pm


First book I ever read was something like "introduction to witchcraft" by Theresa Moorey. It was, without question, the fluffiest book I've ever read. Ever. It almost gave me cancer.
PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:58 pm


Lucas Moonrose
Can anyone tell me anything about Dorothy Morison and Gary Cantrell?


I read Dorothy Morrison's book "The Craft: A Witch's Book of Shadows" and thought it wasn't bad. A bit light on the spiritual side though for me. I'm still learning and not set in my path yet but I thought it was really basic 101 type stuff. Not a bad read though. I haven't read any of her other stuff.

As for Silver Ravenwolf, I think I've found that to have a good opinion you need to read it yourself. I read "To Stir a Magick Cauldron" (because a friend already owned it and it was free) and while there were little things I found interesting and would like to explore more, a lot of it bugged me and I could see why people have problems with her. Don't like her writing style either. I'd say if you wanna know about her, read one of her books but take it with a gallon of salt.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:04 am


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I've read Gary Cantrell's Wiccan beliefs and practices and thought it was pretty good (so long as you know it's not actually Wicca).
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