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OKIES, so here goes: I am a pacifist. I am also a consciencous objector (even if i can't spell it...) this means that i find it physically impossible to kill others. This is partly due to my belief that regardless of your RELIGION!, age, sex, view points, race, sexual orientation, etc etc. you are still human, and so i will see in you something in common with me, therefore making it impossible for me to kill you... also in just about every religion to date one of the commandments/basic principles is something along the lines of "THOU SHALT NOT KILL!" (as the christians so bluntly put it...)i take that seriously...in the Schaivo case, it's rather difficult, because she was gaining nothing from life, and i feel that a)if her parents can pay her medical bills she should be able to stay alive (although personally i think they were just hurting themselves) but b)she gained nothing from living and so i would def. want to be released thereby releasing my loved ones from the torment of seeing me like that...i think people should have something like organ donation that says "if i ever end up in a persistent vegetative state for more than 10 years and there's no hope of recovery please do ______________(in my case take away life support)" yeah so then the whole wiccan rede bit, of course it's saying don't bloody kill!!! i dunno it's really hard to explain everything in a short amount of time, but basically KILLING = BAD!! (in like every religion....) and NONVIOLENCE= GOOD!!! so yeah, that's my theory...but i will fight to protect your right to say your opinion, even if it's different than mine... xd

I like your arguments... have of you ever heard the interpretation of the wiccan rede that says 'and do what ye well but harm none, but if harm ye must then harm the least' do you think this is how the rede was supposed to read because it is imposible to do no harm? Also how do you feel about humans being the judge of someones acts? When so many of the crimes we have today are based on morals. How could one person judge and other person with out being baist. And example of this is steeling... in many old societies there was no such thing as steeling. Do you believe it is far then to judge that person based on modern day laws?

A1:I feel that, even though those religions are "evil," that they are still pagan because they are not Catholic, Christian, Jewish, or Islamic. I know that may not be the best definition, but it's simple and it's basicly true. It doesn't bother me because when I say Pagan, they aren't the first to come to mind anyway so it's not like it effects me (I usaully say I'm pagan, not Wiccan...simply because..meh well, that's just how I feel >P)

A2: I believe that killing or maiming someone in self-defense is not wrong just because someone is Wiccan or just Pagan. Actaully, /because/ someone is Wiccan and defending themselves I believe it is perfectly right. I believe this because it's not going against the Wiccan rede, in my opinion. Just because you can't hurt someone else doesn't mean you can let yourself get hurt. I believe the divine will see the situation clearly. I also think that because someone is Wiccan, as opposed to Muslim, is because a Wiccan is sticking to their integrity.


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A1: Perhaps it's just where I live, but when I say I'm Pagan, people just generally look confused (and, as it turns out, most have no idea of the neopagan movement...and Wicca is considered completely different from Paganism to most. Go figure). I've had loads of people Ask if I'm a Satanist, but most think that this is (rightly) different from the term Pagan. Vampirism, too, is not an issue, really...almost constantly balmy weather sort of deters the vamp sort...

I typically tend not to dwell on it, really, as it really is a live-and-let-live thing. As said before, Pagan is a pretty umbrellaish term, and if someone thinks something false of me, I'll just correct them, and no harm done.

A2: First of all, let me say that I'm pro-choice, just so we can get that out of the way. A child unloved and unwanted (etc.) is a much sadder thing than a child given another chance in a better life. Secondly, let me say that I consider myself Pagan, but not Wiccan, generally. I think brutal murder is insanely wrong. A person in at least decent health should not have to die by another's hand. I also think that it is a crueler fate to live out your life behind bars than it is to be put to sleep. The human mind is perhaps the worst hell of all. And if the person in mind is a "vegetable", then I think it is really the family's job to let go. Putting a person "out of their misery" is not as horrid as people tend to think. I'm against killing, I am, but I don't see the point in suffering when it is not necessary.

...I think that's a long enough ramble for now... wink