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| My religion is Stupid. [With a capital 'S' for added effect.] |
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 2:15 pm
Sorry, I'm siding with Vanilla on this, BS. Though you have inventive and collective insight on particular topics, treading over topics with bullshit really doesn't fall into the category of whatever is being shared. Show us something amazing instead of something we'd see out of General Discussion/Chatterbox.
Religion has been a long-debated topic with credible progress on achieving a greater understanding of human interaction and understanding. Sure, we don't all believe the same things, but we all have one thing in common: we're not really long for this world, and even worse, we might have less than what we assume we'll have. That is why we share and debate.
As for actual beliefs and terms I expect everybody to understand, I have a respect for reincarnation. If I recognize you or your friend, and I've never met you in my entire life, I believe you/your friend and I have been friends in a past life. That's how one of my friends and I met and still talk.
I would like to believe in the Universal Father Figure, if only because I have felt a lack of presence in this life. It's nothing personal that I can't bring myself to conform to the Christian belief system. No, I don't trust the Christians and anybody who lives to conform to an Omnipotent presence beyond reason, or anybody dangerously close to that description.
I'll treat them as I want them to treat me, but that's only out of some displaced fear that one day they could rule the world and destroy me. Paranoia from two different sources: Political and Religious.
I understand there are really nice Christians out there. I'm a friend to many of them. It's their rulebook I don't like.
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 3:17 pm
@Marx *gasp* Our plot has been uncovered! (is it just me, or are other peoples quote buttons not working? confused ) Cool, a bash other people's beliefs thread! Well, in that case, athiesm is bs. Just about sums it up lol And what rules from the Bible is everyone so up in arms about? I'm guessing it's the no sex until marriage one stare .
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 4:44 pm
Almost any thread concerning religion that has people of different religions is a bash other people's religion thread. This is to keep the topic out of every other thread so we can get on with things, since Samhann and BS (I like it when things have double meanings) had the discussion going on in quite a few threads and it was getting tired.
Also, I'd like to point out that 1. Atheism isn't a religion so it can't really be BS and 2. I wish I could believe in some religion or something because it would be nice to believe something happens after we die. But just because something is nice doesn't mean it's true.
(ps. that image wouldn't load for me ;-; )
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 6:13 pm
That makes sense. But then again, this is a Horror guild, so I don't see how anyone bashing religion is very relevant. confused
I know thats what a lot of people say, so that's why I said 'belief', and not religion. Though it does seem like one. And there is a lot of evidence of ghosts and such. So religion, or not, there is a better possibility that something will happen when you die, then something not happening.
Ah that's sad, cause I think its a rather funny pic(its a demotivator whee )
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 6:16 pm
Even though there are plenty of these on Christians, some/alot of athiests still got butthurt over this. (it's from deviant art 3nodding credit goes to Vawn-O-the-Dawn heart )
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 6:23 pm
Rules, rules. . . bibble 1. American Standard Version "Thou shalt not suffer a sorceress to live." 2. The Answer: Put to death any woman who does evil magic. 3. Amplified Bible: You shall not allow a woman to live who practices sorcery. 4. Good News Version: Put to death any woman who practices magic. 5. James Moffatt Translation: You shall not allow any sorceress to live. 6. Jerusalem Bible: You shall not allow a sorceress to live. 7. King James Version: Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. 8. Living Bible: A sorceress shall be put to death. 9. Modern Language Bible: Allow no sorceress to live. 10. New American Bible: You shall not let a sorceress live. 11. New American Standard Bible: You shall not let a sorceress live. 12. New Century Version: Put to death any woman who does evil magic. 13. New International Version: Do not allow a sorceress to live. 14. New Living Translation: A sorceress must not be allowed to live. 15. New Revised Standard Version: You shall not permit a female sorcerer to live. 16. New World Translation: You must not preserve a sorceress alive. 17. The Promise: Contemporary English Version: Death is the punishment for witchcraft. 18. Revised Standard Version: You shall not permit a sorceress to live. 19. Revised English Bible: You must not allow a witch to live. Malleus Malificarumand about 750,000 deaths given tribute to this kindly god during the inquisition. Vanilla eXee (ps. that image wouldn't load for me ;-; ) If it helps, the image was white. . . ooh, postage! Hey look! Specks! If it helps, M5, this is Chatterbox and it would have to be stickied.
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 6:49 pm
masumi5 some/alot of athiests still got butthurt over this. r they tha kind dat tipe lik dis?
Of course this is a Horror guild, that's why I put religious discussion in the chatterbox. No one needs to bash any religion, but I can certainly share my views on why/why not I think a religion is based on something true, and why/why not the majority of the religion in questions followers are respectable people and/or true to their chosen religion. I think having a separate thread where people can discuss it is beneficial because not only does it keep these views from clogging up all of the other threads, but it gives us an appropriate outlet for all the things we may want to say on the subject.
That said, like it says in my profile, I don't judge people based on their religion, what you believe is up to you. I can judge a religion however, without meaning anything to people who believe it. My boyfriend believes there is some god because things couldn't exist without one. That's fine and dandy and doesn't take away from our relationship.
In closing, while I hope you don't feel offended by the opinions in this thread, because they aren't directed towards you (from what I can get from your posts, you're not a bad person and even pretty fun). However, we are entitled to discuss the matter here so if it does offend you, you just don't have to visit this thread.
(See BS? Just because you don't agree with someone doesn't mean you have to make a d**k of yourself. People with differing opinions can indeed get along! It's like magic!)
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:04 am
Christianity preaches nothing but peace and love. Jesus said that the two greatest commandments were to love your God with everything you've got and Love your neighbor as yourself.
The idiots that get spotlighted in the news know nothing about Christ. Those arrogant preachers that preach hate from behind their pulpits and those imbeciles in fundamentalist independent churches that thanks God for AIDS - not a single one of them knows what it really means to be a follower of Christ.
The Bible says that we are to hate what is evil. We return evil with kindness. We are supposed to be oozing love from every orifice because we are in God (and God is love). We as Christians are supposed to be preaching and rebuking (correcting) with the Bible. We are supposed to be little Christs.
And we as Christians should be "Bible Thumpers". We are supposed to be reading God's word everyday, praying everyday, loving everyday.
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:24 am
Imitation Stradivarius Christianity preaches nothing but peace and love. Jesus said that the two greatest commandments were to love your God with everything you've got and Love your neighbor as yourself. The idiots that get spotlighted in the news know nothing about Christ. Those arrogant preachers that preach hate from behind their pulpits and those imbeciles in fundamentalist independent churches that thanks God for AIDS - not a single one of them knows what it really means to be a follower of Christ. The Bible says that we are to hate what is evil. We return evil with kindness. We are supposed to be oozing love from every orifice because we are in God (and God is love). We as Christians are supposed to be preaching and rebuking (correcting) with the Bible. We are supposed to be little Christs. And we as Christians should be "Bible Thumpers". We are supposed to be reading God's word everyday, praying everyday, loving everyday. If every Christian interpreted it that way, there would be so much less hate for the religion. The commandments are some guidelines to live by, but it's when you get further into the texts of the old testament that you see where these people are coming from.
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:09 am
Wow. Just...wow. Religion has always been a hot topic of discussion through out history, and now it's in CB.
As for me and religion, well, I like to say I'm agnostic. I was baptised Methodist which I always describe as religion light. My family is "Christian". I use the term lightly because none of us actually go to church or practice the religion. The rest of my family go on Christmas and Easter. I usually opt out because I get really bored or start laughing at what the minister is talking about. I've gone the last few years because my grandmother is nearing the end of her days and I want her to be happy.
I say I'm agnostic, but I tend to lean more to the scientific, logical side of things, but I am NOT and Atheist. It's really hard for me to believe in God, let alone gods, without having actual proof they exist. I keep and open mind because there are some things science can't always explain. I could look up examples, but I'm too lazy. Maybe later. Of course with technology and science becoming more and more advanced each day it explains more and more things. I actually find the scientific reasons more fascinating then the religious ones. Again, too lazy to look up examples.
As for the gay issues, I am a whole-hearted support of gay rights. I once heard a phrase that fit me perfectly. It went like this:
"I'm a straight woman with gay pride. Get the ******** over it."
I grew up with one openly gay uncle and one that is still not technically out of the closet. I have several gay and lesbian friends and my roommate in college was bisexual. I don't know how racism ends up in a religious discussion, but as for me I also have a black uncle, so I'm pretty tolerant. For me it's more your personality and douchebaggery that will make me dislike you. I admit to have used a few stereo-types in my day, but everyone has. I don't care who you are, everyone has intolerance for some group of people. Mine is mainly stupid people.
Abortion? I'm pro-choice. A woman has a right to choose and men should stay the hell out of the arguement unless it's your child. If you are not the baby daddy you have no say in the situation. Plain and simple. Here's where my conservative upbringing shows a little, though. I don't think it's right to have an abortion if you went out and had unsafe sex and then found out "Oops! I'm preggers!". That's your own damn fault, you idiot. I'm not saying don't get an abortion, the world could do with less people and the childcare system isn't the best. I'm saying don't be stupid and go out and get pregnant "on accident". There's plenty of ways to prevent unwanted pregnancy that are a lot cheaper and a whole of a lot safer than abortion. On the other hand, if a woman was raped and became pregnant, she had every right to abort the child. I know I wouldn't want to raise a child that I conceived during probably one of the most traumatizing experiences of my life. Another example where abortion is a good idea is when it threatens the life of the mother herself. Of course that's when the choice part comes in. It's really up to the mother and father, not anyone else.
Sorry, I ended up rambling on for a lot longer than I planned. To sum it all up, I'm an open-minded person about most things. I don't discriminate against religion. You believe what you want to believe. If that's what makes you happy and live a better life, I'm happy for you. Just don't try and force your beliefs upon me. That's when I get a little testy. Let me be and we can be great friends, bother me and you will be on my s**t list.
There really is no converting me, I'm a stubborn a** that's set in her ways.
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 5:14 pm
Vanilla eXee (See BS? Just because you don't agree with someone doesn't mean you have to make a d**k of yourself. People with differing opinions can indeed get along! It's like magic!) Apparently we get along as long as I'm willing to be insulted (called stupid, ignorant, full of fear/hate...please read your first few posts in this thread again) for being faithful. It's this shocking lack of tolerance, really, this is laughable. If you go back and look over my previous posts, you'll find that I NEVER said being an atheist was stupid/bad/whatever. I poked fun by pretty much parroting what someone else was saying to me in a slightly different manner at one point, but that's hardly the same thing. Anyways, I won't be arguing this point any further. I've decided that I don't want to be a part of a community where tolerance is only preached when that tolerance is for the majority viewpoint only.
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 5:38 pm
Good riddance.
The first post was sarcastic, btw. Azekual got it.
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:58 pm
It warms my heart really. Because this isn't like Blinded thinks it is. Its not tolerance for the majority(like most religions zing!) But its no tolerance for failed outdated ideas. It is no tolerance against intolerance! The times, they are a changing. Soon yes there will be intolerance for religions and lies that ruin our lives. And those who did the segregating will be segregated. Hate against the useless! And one day all will be right with the world. Kill all humans, they are ineffective *Beep* *Beep* crying Brings tears to my eyes. Until then, whatever man ride the walrus.
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 8:44 pm
I think there will be a big shift of ideals in the next few years. Some might even say that's what our big shift of energy will be in 2012.
Personally, I used to welcome the actual existence of God, mostly because it might mean Somebody was right. I don't care who it is, but Someone would be right and we could all shut up about it. Wouldn't it be nice to have that kind of knowledge, that we areN'T alone afterall?
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Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:42 pm
D_Marx I think there will be a big shift of ideals in the next few years. Some might even say that's what our big shift of energy will be in 2012. Personally, I used to welcome the actual existence of God, mostly because it might mean Somebody was right. I don't care who it is, but Someone would be right and we could all shut up about it. Wouldn't it be nice to have that kind of knowledge, that we areN'T alone afterall? Well, Someone is right. And eventually we'll all find out who is. Or maybe no one is right, and the truth is something none of us could ever phathom! Like we really all just live in one giant fish tank in the world's largest aquarium or something crazy like that. Now that would be awesome.
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