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I'm not completely sure about manipulating people being witchcraft but here's a link to two sites with more information: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15674a.htm
http://www.tpwmi.com/charismaticwitchcraft.html
I do know according to the Bible witchcraft is wrong. That's how I know it's evil. I guess if you aren't Christian, you have to go by some other moral guide.

The "K" in Magick was created by Aleister Crowley to differentiate between Illusionists or Artists such as Harry Houdini and Practitioners of Magick like Crowley himself and others like Mathers and Prescott. it neither right nor wrong to use it. Its a preference.

it is the Low end where life meets pavement Magick when you cannot form circle or summon the corners.

Oh wow; those sources are totally unbiased. Lovin' it.
Actually, there is an infodump floating around Gaia that shows that witchcraft actually isn't prohibited in the Bible based on the original text vs. shady translations throughout time. I'll dig it up later as it's late for me (or if someone else would care to dig it up, I'd be grateful).

Tea's Witchcraft within Christendom v2.1

The conflict within Christianity over Witchcraft is a bullshit political contrivance.

Lets address the translation errors. Some of these are so skewed as to completely change passages in their entirety, some merely alter the meanings of the words within the Tanakh.



"Divination" is from the Hebrew "qecem" which is also used in Prov 16:10, is only a bad thing when done with unclean spirits (as is noted by it's positive used in Proverbs). The word denotes seeking insights from spirits. It is used in both positive and negative lights within the context of scripture, making it clear that the action of seeking guidance from said spirit is only a boon or bane to the faith within the context of the purity of the spirit in question.

"Observer of Times" is summed up within the Hebrew 'anan, which means "covering things" - either by using trickery to pass for prophecy or more likely speaking hidden things, or lies to hide the truth.

"An Enchanter" is summed up in the Hebrew nachash, which meant to hiss or whisper. An open condemnation of gossip to one's benefit.

"Witch" is a faulty translation of kashaph, which is to pray or offer prayers in worship. It needs context unless you are going to damn all of Christendom. The context is straightforward, it addresses those of YHVH's children who do so to gods other than YHVH. This is established in direct opposition to YHVH's commandments.

"Charmer" is mistranslated from the Hebrew chabar, which means to unite and in context is to unite through trickery.

Familiar Spirits come from the word 'owb or "wine skins", which is a direct condemnation prophecy from a bottle- aka, taking drunken ranting as divine edict. More over this ties to the prohibition of using grape products that are of a non-Jewish processing as the initial Kosher Laws within the Jewish faith cite the fact that wine was often consecrated to pagan gods at each step of the fermentation process.

"Wizard" is from the word "yidda`oniy", which means a false prophet.

Necromancer is a piss poor translation of darash, who is a seeker- once again within context of seeking unclean spirits for guidance.




This one is pretty straight forward. "Witch" as cited above is kashaph, and only applies within the context of the Torah to those who entered into covenant with YHVH at the Mountain and betray YHVH.



"Witchcraft" is translated from qecem once again for this part of the text.



And now we're back to the Hebrew and nachash and 'anan have already been covered. As have 'owb and yidda`oniy as are already explained above.




At least within the Greek we have a new term. Pharmakeia- or herbalist or medicine maker. This is a three fold issue.

First, we have the use of plants to poison rather than heal. That goes directly against the Law of Love and the Commandments.

The added insult to injury is the benefit the poisoner would gain from his actions. We have established above with concepts such as nachash- in which deception is wrong holds a larger debt when done for one's personal benefit.

This is a very pragmatic approach that is seen even within our modern culture. Accidents are forgiven, direct harm and crimes of passion are punished, but premeditation to profit on another's suffering is damned even further.

It makes perfect sense that someone who would hide a death by poison for their benefit would be in unfavorable standing with YHVH.

Boxy's interjection -- pharmakeia also means "pariah" or "exile" in Greek. Part of the cultural context of this is that murderers were expelled from the community under pain of death. Thus you have the added context of confirmed murderers hanging around where they're not supposed to, which causes problems to the people of YHVH.



Let's ignore for a moment the fact that Revelation's is one big political satire aimed at Nero.

"Sorcerers" once again is translated from pharmakos as addressed above.



"Sorceries" has the same root as above. Unrepentant poisoners aren't likely to have YHVH's mercy if they are one of his children. The key being unrepentant.



Aside from the fact the Greek is getting repetitive, you have to hand the use of imagery by John to condemn pharmakeia as the poisoners of nations. It's either a metaphor, or the common practice of poisoning wells and salting lands sending governments into chaos. Exd 23:22 addresses YHVH's stance on being an enemy to his Children.

However, within the context of metaphor, we revisit pharmakeia in a new light- that is to say, to poison with words. We have already established that False Prophets, or yidda`oniy. Even the New Testament condemns them in Mat 7:15, Mat 24:24 and Mar 13:22. This is why 1Jo 4:1 demands one test the spirits that give rise to prophecy.

I realize I am using bastardized approximated Hebrew (one of these days I will have Hebrew enabled on this computer), but it will do in a pinch.

Now, the Jewish Faith does not actively seek to convert others. The reason for this is that they understand that to enter covenant with their god is not a universal demand from their god.

Not everyone is called to serve YHVH. Most of the mass conversion comes out of Paul's edicts from Acts onward, not Yeshua's within the Gospels.

The OT establishes not only that YHVH has a covenant with his people- being the children of Adam and Eve, but that other gods exist. Note how the Ten Commandments does not assert that all other gods are false gods outside of eisegesis, but it names gods other than YHVH within the OT such as Ashtoreth the goddess of the Zidonians found in 1Kings.

Now- we know that Original Sin is tied to Adam and Eve's line. As Adam and Eve are not the only point of Creation within the Scripture (note the lack of YHVH's presence in Gen 1:1), it stands to reason that there is no more evidence that they are the only humans (note in Genesis how Cain takes a wife from humans already established in the lands East of Eden).

The Bible is the communication of the decedents of Adam and Eve and YHVH's relationship with his creation. It stands to reason that his relationship which is turned into a Covenant at Mt. Sinai does not apply to those who are not of that line- especially considering the context of the revelation of YHVH to his children and the formation of the Jewish faith as a direct edict applying to them, not to the people that were the Children and descendents of other gods such as the People of Cain's wife- or Seth's wife.

These other peoples are consistently referred to in the OT. See: Jer 10:2 and Lev. 18:3.

YHVH clearly states he is not the god of these pagan peoples- but at no time does he say that these gods are not real. Pagan peoples have their own gods their own lineage and heritage. Thus only those in covenant with YHVH are bound by his laws. Furthermore- the scripture itself, when it context does not damn those who practice qecem within the guidelines of Clean spirits found within YHVH's domain.

people need labels, ohter wise we are all generically the same.when people use labes you also need to use you common sense same as sterotypes.

Oh wow; those sources are totally unbiased. Lovin' it.
Actually, there is an infodump floating around Gaia that shows that witchcraft actually isn't prohibited in the Bible based on the original text vs. shady translations throughout time. I'll dig it up later as it's late for me (or if someone else would care to dig it up, I'd be grateful).

Craft does not answer calls. Craft is somethng that you do yourself. I imagine she felt some sort of cognitive dissonance between her practise of witchcraft and her belief in her deity... many believe he disapproves of witchcraft and she may have done also. That would explain everything in her situation, from her distress during prayer to her inability to perform magic successfully. It is good that she has found peace again.

But I am unsure why you felt it necessary to share this. I do sincerely hope that you are not sharing this to imply that your god is better for us than our own, or that those of us who practise witchcraft should give up our practice.

The answer to that is we all carry the spirit we choose to carry. What I'm saying is The GOD I worship and the spiritual conection has prove himself over and over and over again and he did'nt have to do it; so I favor HIM over anything in this world. And if you don't mind sharing has witchcraft ever been productive for you. So far I've never heard any positive things about it maybe you can enlighten me? I do learn from corresponding. Thank you in advance.

People who re-emerge as Christians will say bad things in order to convince people that they are one of God's children. Whereas those who practice witchcraft will say many positive things. Those who say negative things about the Craft either never really dabbled with it or listened intently to what a pastor or priest thought about the Craft or read the Bible at face value.