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I'm still not sure about the profession system. While good for characters who either have a fighting style based around their profession (Like a warrior blacksmith) or need to practice with what they make to make better items (Like Nyman Po), it still needs a lot to be desired for the character who's a tradesperson first. Sure if they can swing a sword haphazardly, but that doesn't make them a knight or a mercenary. Both those classes have ideals attached to them that wouldn't fit. Nor are they a thief or a ranger, since they too have ideals attached to them.

Which leaves the lord. A class with a horde of its own problems.

For one, WoG can't have it both ways. Either Lord becomes a profession, or Artisan becomes a class. The second is it favours players who like playing the upper class, giving them the most versatile classes to play with.

Now there is a compromise. I realise that making artisan a class opens the door to a painful amount of other requests. So lets focus on how to make the lord class fair.

From the way I see it you've got a couple of options:
1) Release a townsfolk type class. someone who doesn't have the money or power of a lord, but at the same time is just as tied to the town as the lord is. The downside is you would have to make a freeman/drifter class too. Someone who's main skill is travelling and practising their profession for money, sort of like a non-combat focused mercenary.

or

2)Change the lord to something more neutral, and make the player define their characters level of society. So you'd be able to emulate a lord, artisan and peasant all with one class. Highly simple, highly efficient. The flaw, while simple in the beginning it can get cluttered really fast. For this to work the base character would be so open ended it could cause more headaches and arguments than it solves.

Once again, just my ideas.

I think the way it seems to be working is that we have the top-tier classes, and that we can modify these (within reason) with a sub-class.

Like a Paladin is a particular type of knight, and so on.

Am I right here?

Hmm...

...so what, after you reach a certain level of Knight, would you choose a specific path of Knight to follow? One being Paladin and one being something else, or something?

So there's five levels of class...

What, so you're suggesting that maybe after 3rd level or so, they can choose a subclass (like Knight can either stay Knight, or go Paladin or Blackguard ((D&D thinking)) ...though that's kind of biased... maybe just more Paladin of their specific 'faith', or elemental group that they follow). Then two levels of that are available before they reach the top, then...

I 'unno.


I once had a thing... *looks for it*

It was a long time ago, sort of going on the RO system... this was way back before I started RPing, I was designing game classes...





Okay... lemme try and explain this...

Squire can go to Knight or Hunter at second level. Hunter could go to Archer or Mercenary (which are also the two classes available to a third-level Rogue). From Mercenary OR Archer, though, they can both end up as a Bounty Hunter, or the Archer could go to Ranger and the Mercenary to Assassin...

...it'd be at each level they'd pick up a number of new traits or abilities, so that the path that you take to get there can influence the end result just as much as the final level of the job that you choose...

...it's an old system based on FF or RO classes. I made it for a text-based game that I never got to making, back in like... 2002.

I think we were kind of hoping to deal with character wipes on a case by case basis rather than creating a provision for them.

Drifter class sounds fun. Just thought I'd pop my head in and say that.

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd most of these questions will probably be delayed on the answering till the 8th when Josh comes back, or if Truewind ever comes back from being AWOL... @_@

Josh...

...I hate to have to be the one to break this to you, but otherwise it'll never get done. So I kinda have to.

It's basically been decided that your class stuff is going to be redone, in the style of what Dan's been doing. Because the way Dan has it allows much greater flexibility in what the characters can do, and makes it so that all knights and such won't be identical.