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 Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 12:36 am
Here's a page for de capsulizing brine shrimp; here. The rest of the site is pretty neat too. I feel iffy about pods honestly. The pictures I've seen of parasetic once still cause me nightmares. Appart from woodlice, I don't trust any of them, and even woodlice I'd never feed to my fish. I also ran across a nice idea to reduce current a while ago here. I'm not sure it's good enough for the fry though.
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:03 am
yeah i read up on decapsulating while i was setting up for seahorse. its very complicated AND if done wrong you can bleach your fish. i saw the cysts on sale in bottles when i wanted seahorse and now i cant ever find them.
and pods
they sell bottles of the things live for saltwater tanks to seed refugiums or start a larger culture. tiggers pods are harmless copepods. parasitic isopods are the problems. i have never seen any irl only in pics. there are also non parasitic isopods.
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 12:04 pm
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That always happens, when you really need something mysteriously no one is selling it.
Did you think of hatching some bbs instead and feeding them that? I made a simple hatchery in a soda bottle but instead of doing it all crazy like some tutorials suggest, it was just salt water in a soda bottle in my window and a few times a day I pumped air into it with a turkey baster. They hatched fine within 48 hours. Set up a few of those babies and you should have plenty of food.
There should be enough creatures already living in your tank to feed a good amount of the fry, but I would try to supplement with whatever you can. I've heard some good things about already prepared fry food, as long as the fry don't need living moving prey.
Also, if you have access to daphnia you're all set. Bettas love them, even full grown ones. When I first got my betta she was very thin and sickly, so I started supplementing her with daphnia and extra blood worms to fatten her up a little.
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 1:11 pm
i have been looking for plain brine shrimp cysts today and cant even find THAT
i just worry about them accidentally eating bits of the cysts and dying. they would need to eat brine for a while i think so that risk will be there for some time. decapsulated cysts have no risk of injuring your fish.
the thing is that they are SO small. about the size of this dash _
i cant feed things i KNOW betta love to eat (like blood worms) because its big except for the shrimp (and even baby brine shrimp are too big...the fish will actually gang up and rip it apart)
so far they are still looking good. i saw one doing some kind of crazy swimming. spinning then sinking. im sure that one isnt going to make it.
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 1:27 pm
but i guess if i only end up losing one out of the 20-30 actual fry i have that isnt so bad
doing a water change now. i also add some of their dad's water. hopefully there is something in there they can snack on too.
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:19 pm
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That is true. It's a b***h to separate the shrimp from the cysts, even if you hatch them.
I'd try maybe putting some blood worms in the blender if you have one. I sometimes use it for stuff like then when my mom's not around. As well as frozen bbs/daphnia.
When they're this tiny it's very tricky to raise them because all the food is much bigger than they are. Sounds like you're doing a good job though.
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:37 pm
hehe my mom would KILL me if i put any kind of worm/worm like thing in her blender XD i was thinking of using the powder at the very bottom of the container of freeze dried blood worms. but i have to do some more cleaning of the tank first. lots of floaty bits.
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:48 pm
i think the bloodworm powder worked!
i shook up a half filled container of dried blood worms and shook the dust on top. i actually saw one of the fry eating it smile
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:19 pm
fry are eating food from the bottom of the tank too. YAY! i think i'll end up with some adults after all. eating is always a good sign.
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:34 pm
my betta count so far for adults is 17 females 17 males. i did NOT plan for it to be even XD it just happened that way.
and im not going to be able to count my fry exactly but when i start to lose count its 20 something and i know there are more so 20-30 betta fry.
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 4:59 am
Sounds like you're doing a super great job with them smile
The blood worms are a great idea. I used to feed my guppy and goldfish fry with a little bit of boiled egg yolk and softned peas.
And when they got large enough I would switch to tubifex.
I think I have a video of fry feeding on tubifex.
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 6:39 am
Here's the video. They were a little over a centimeter long I think and one of them had confiscated an oversized worm.
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:24 am
funny you should mention the egg...i was going to boil one yesterday...and the only 2 eggs we had were cracked! i swear i cant catch a break with food for these little guys!
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:23 pm
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Alright! Great news that they're eating. The biggest hurdle to me is getting them to eat. Now that you've done that, you should come out with some nice adults. Looking forward to hearing about their development.
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:03 pm
we got eggs today and i was able to share some of the tasty hard boiled yolk with the fry. they loved it. all is looking promising 3nodding
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