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 Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 2:37 pm
Exark Well, while i agree with saving the life of the mother over the child. My philosophy is simple: Life must be preserved at any cost. Now in the case of a malformed fetus that would not be able to survive outside the womb. That I'd have to ask a priest about. you do realize that priests are just as human and thus prone to being biased bigoted or wrong as anyone else right. i say ******** the priests what does your gut tell you?
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Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 11:02 am
Pro-life = anti-woman.
'nuff said.
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Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:27 pm
Luz Melian I am pro-choice, definitely. An already living, thinking and feeling woman and her right to defend her body and decide about it is much much more important to me than a fetus parasiting from her. I'm glad that I'm not the only one that thinks that. Lazarus you do realize that priests are just as human and thus prone to being biased bigoted or wrong as anyone else right. i say ******** the priests what does your gut tell you? I'm starting to like you more and more sweatdrop
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Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:40 pm
Kimihiro_Watanuki Pro-life = anti-woman. 'nuff said. I dissagree. This is not a black and white issue and can never be boiled down to a single sentence. The side of the so-called "pro-life" movement, misguided thought it may be, is still a legitimate argument. They wish to protect the lives of unborn human beings. The problem with this is that if they aren't already part of a religion that dictates "pro-life" doctrine, they are religiously "pro-life". Religion causes people problems. For instance, women are denied access to condoms in third world countries by "pro-life" missionary health centers end up getting pregnant with children they, can't feed (who later die), dying in childbirth or getting AIDS. This, some would argue, is anti-woman. but I tend to find it closer to anti-child or anti-humanity. Anyway, that is the way a point should be made. Hope you learned a little something Kimmy.
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Lazarus The Resurected Crew
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Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:16 pm
I drive by pro-lifers every day. The have their signs saying that "Abortion hurts women!!" argument which pisses me off because the majority of them are MEN. I don't think a man would have any idea what hurts and what doesn't hurt women.
Also, I've seen articles for a petition going on in the west to completely ban abortion even if the mother needs it. People should not have the right to tell how other people should live and force their "morals" on them. It doesn't affect them in any way, shape, or form so they need to stay way the ******** out of it.
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Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:18 pm
i've made this one very clear in many other threads... but i promised myself i wouldn't debate the topic anymore, i;ve had some very hurtfull debates...
i will state my views and leave.
i think that Abortion should be legal, but strictly regulated. it should be allowed only in the case of a health risk for either the baby and/or mother, and MAYBE in the case of rape... even then, i would not be happy to hear of a rape victim aborting her child, but i understand that it isn't fair... i have heard of girls being so traumatized that they dsplace their hatred of the rapist directly onto the child, finding it disgusting, and wishing it dead. though in every case those girls allow the guy to continue to abuse them... >.> so it is obviously unhealthy...
if a child has to be aborted, then it should be used for Stem Cell research, so that it's death doesn't go in vain.
i am very pro-life basically...
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Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:03 pm
Chieftain Twilight i've made this one very clear in many other threads... but i promised myself i wouldn't debate the topic anymore, i;ve had some very hurtfull debates... i will state my views and leave. i think that Abortion should be legal, but strictly regulated. it should be allowed only in the case of a health risk for either the baby and/or mother, and MAYBE in the case of rape... even then, i would not be happy to hear of a rape victim aborting her child, but i understand that it isn't fair... i have heard of girls being so traumatized that they dsplace their hatred of the rapist directly onto the child, finding it disgusting, and wishing it dead. though in every case those girls allow the guy to continue to abuse them... >.> so it is obviously unhealthy... if a child has to be aborted, then it should be used for Stem Cell research, so that it's death doesn't go in vain. i am very pro-life basically... I completely agree with you. I think that making abortion illegal would do more harm than good, really.
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Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:04 pm
Isaac488 Chieftain Twilight i've made this one very clear in many other threads... but i promised myself i wouldn't debate the topic anymore, i;ve had some very hurtfull debates... i will state my views and leave. i think that Abortion should be legal, but strictly regulated. it should be allowed only in the case of a health risk for either the baby and/or mother, and MAYBE in the case of rape... even then, i would not be happy to hear of a rape victim aborting her child, but i understand that it isn't fair... i have heard of girls being so traumatized that they dsplace their hatred of the rapist directly onto the child, finding it disgusting, and wishing it dead. though in every case those girls allow the guy to continue to abuse them... >.> so it is obviously unhealthy... if a child has to be aborted, then it should be used for Stem Cell research, so that it's death doesn't go in vain. i am very pro-life basically... I completely agree with you. I think that making abortion illegal would do more harm than good, really. It's simple really. Instead of making abortion illegal, which unfairly imposes one groups' morality on others, simply make abortion less necessary. One of the major problems with the pro-life argument is that its proponents pander on about how life needs to be protected and preserved, but then cease to give a flying ******** about the child after its born.
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Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:43 pm
Kimihiro_Watanuki Isaac488 Chieftain Twilight i've made this one very clear in many other threads... but i promised myself i wouldn't debate the topic anymore, i;ve had some very hurtfull debates... i will state my views and leave. i think that Abortion should be legal, but strictly regulated. it should be allowed only in the case of a health risk for either the baby and/or mother, and MAYBE in the case of rape... even then, i would not be happy to hear of a rape victim aborting her child, but i understand that it isn't fair... i have heard of girls being so traumatized that they dsplace their hatred of the rapist directly onto the child, finding it disgusting, and wishing it dead. though in every case those girls allow the guy to continue to abuse them... >.> so it is obviously unhealthy... if a child has to be aborted, then it should be used for Stem Cell research, so that it's death doesn't go in vain. i am very pro-life basically... I completely agree with you. I think that making abortion illegal would do more harm than good, really. It's simple really. Instead of making abortion illegal, which unfairly imposes one groups' morality on others, simply make abortion less necessary. One of the major problems with the pro-life argument is that its proponents pander on about how life needs to be protected and preserved, but then cease to give a flying ******** about the child after its born. You know what's ironic is that they show a picture of a baby AFTER it is born instead of while it is still in the womb? Most arguments I've heard is "UR MERDERIN BAYBEEZ!!!" which really irritates me because in all the health classes I've been in it is NOT called a baby in the womb. It is a fetus. When it is born it is then called a baby. It's like the whole 'lava, magma' difference.
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:33 am
Isaac488 Kimihiro_Watanuki Isaac488 Chieftain Twilight i've made this one very clear in many other threads... but i promised myself i wouldn't debate the topic anymore, i;ve had some very hurtfull debates... i will state my views and leave. i think that Abortion should be legal, but strictly regulated. it should be allowed only in the case of a health risk for either the baby and/or mother, and MAYBE in the case of rape... even then, i would not be happy to hear of a rape victim aborting her child, but i understand that it isn't fair... i have heard of girls being so traumatized that they dsplace their hatred of the rapist directly onto the child, finding it disgusting, and wishing it dead. though in every case those girls allow the guy to continue to abuse them... >.> so it is obviously unhealthy... if a child has to be aborted, then it should be used for Stem Cell research, so that it's death doesn't go in vain. i am very pro-life basically... I completely agree with you. I think that making abortion illegal would do more harm than good, really. It's simple really. Instead of making abortion illegal, which unfairly imposes one groups' morality on others, simply make abortion less necessary. One of the major problems with the pro-life argument is that its proponents pander on about how life needs to be protected and preserved, but then cease to give a flying ******** about the child after its born. You know what's ironic is that they show a picture of a baby AFTER it is born instead of while it is still in the womb? Most arguments I've heard is "UR MERDERIN BAYBEEZ!!!" which really irritates me because in all the health classes I've been in it is NOT called a baby in the womb. It is a fetus. When it is born it is then called a baby. It's like the whole 'lava, magma' difference. I tend to find the irony in fundamentalists who blow up abortion clinics in the name of thier god. not only are they killing the doctors, nurses, councilors, and secretaries who maintain the clinic but they are also killing any pregnant woman inside as well as (and here comes the true irony) the unborn "children" they scream about saving.
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Lazarus The Resurected Crew
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 3:05 pm
Lazarus The Resurected Isaac488 Kimihiro_Watanuki Isaac488 Chieftain Twilight i've made this one very clear in many other threads... but i promised myself i wouldn't debate the topic anymore, i;ve had some very hurtfull debates... i will state my views and leave. i think that Abortion should be legal, but strictly regulated. it should be allowed only in the case of a health risk for either the baby and/or mother, and MAYBE in the case of rape... even then, i would not be happy to hear of a rape victim aborting her child, but i understand that it isn't fair... i have heard of girls being so traumatized that they dsplace their hatred of the rapist directly onto the child, finding it disgusting, and wishing it dead. though in every case those girls allow the guy to continue to abuse them... >.> so it is obviously unhealthy... if a child has to be aborted, then it should be used for Stem Cell research, so that it's death doesn't go in vain. i am very pro-life basically... I completely agree with you. I think that making abortion illegal would do more harm than good, really. It's simple really. Instead of making abortion illegal, which unfairly imposes one groups' morality on others, simply make abortion less necessary. One of the major problems with the pro-life argument is that its proponents pander on about how life needs to be protected and preserved, but then cease to give a flying ******** about the child after its born. You know what's ironic is that they show a picture of a baby AFTER it is born instead of while it is still in the womb? Most arguments I've heard is "UR MERDERIN BAYBEEZ!!!" which really irritates me because in all the health classes I've been in it is NOT called a baby in the womb. It is a fetus. When it is born it is then called a baby. It's like the whole 'lava, magma' difference. I tend to find the irony in fundamentalists who blow up abortion clinics in the name of thier god. not only are they killing the doctors, nurses, councilors, and secretaries who maintain the clinic but they are also killing any pregnant woman inside as well as (and here comes the true irony) the unborn "children" they scream about saving. O_O I've never heard of them blowing up abortion clinics. I know there was this one that shot a late-term abortion doctor in a church and killed him.. He pleaded not guilty and said the killing was justified "to protect the unborn". Seriously I don't get how a fetus really has more rights than a living being. People scream all they want but after it's born they don't give a s**t.
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:52 pm
Isaac488 Lazarus The Resurected Isaac488 Kimihiro_Watanuki Isaac488 Chieftain Twilight i've made this one very clear in many other threads... but i promised myself i wouldn't debate the topic anymore, i;ve had some very hurtfull debates... i will state my views and leave. i think that Abortion should be legal, but strictly regulated. it should be allowed only in the case of a health risk for either the baby and/or mother, and MAYBE in the case of rape... even then, i would not be happy to hear of a rape victim aborting her child, but i understand that it isn't fair... i have heard of girls being so traumatized that they dsplace their hatred of the rapist directly onto the child, finding it disgusting, and wishing it dead. though in every case those girls allow the guy to continue to abuse them... >.> so it is obviously unhealthy... if a child has to be aborted, then it should be used for Stem Cell research, so that it's death doesn't go in vain. i am very pro-life basically... I completely agree with you. I think that making abortion illegal would do more harm than good, really. It's simple really. Instead of making abortion illegal, which unfairly imposes one groups' morality on others, simply make abortion less necessary. One of the major problems with the pro-life argument is that its proponents pander on about how life needs to be protected and preserved, but then cease to give a flying ******** about the child after its born. You know what's ironic is that they show a picture of a baby AFTER it is born instead of while it is still in the womb? Most arguments I've heard is "UR MERDERIN BAYBEEZ!!!" which really irritates me because in all the health classes I've been in it is NOT called a baby in the womb. It is a fetus. When it is born it is then called a baby. It's like the whole 'lava, magma' difference. I tend to find the irony in fundamentalists who blow up abortion clinics in the name of thier god. not only are they killing the doctors, nurses, councilors, and secretaries who maintain the clinic but they are also killing any pregnant woman inside as well as (and here comes the true irony) the unborn "children" they scream about saving. O_O I've never heard of them blowing up abortion clinics. I know there was this one that shot a late-term abortion doctor in a church and killed him.. He pleaded not guilty and said the killing was justified "to protect the unborn". Seriously I don't get how a fetus really has more rights than a living being. People scream all they want but after it's born they don't give a s**t. hence why i happen to be pro choice and pro death peanalty- Consistency.
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Lazarus The Resurected Crew
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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:32 pm
Lazarus The Resurected Isaac488 Lazarus The Resurected Isaac488 Kimihiro_Watanuki It's simple really. Instead of making abortion illegal, which unfairly imposes one groups' morality on others, simply make abortion less necessary. One of the major problems with the pro-life argument is that its proponents pander on about how life needs to be protected and preserved, but then cease to give a flying ******** about the child after its born. You know what's ironic is that they show a picture of a baby AFTER it is born instead of while it is still in the womb? Most arguments I've heard is "UR MERDERIN BAYBEEZ!!!" which really irritates me because in all the health classes I've been in it is NOT called a baby in the womb. It is a fetus. When it is born it is then called a baby. It's like the whole 'lava, magma' difference. I tend to find the irony in fundamentalists who blow up abortion clinics in the name of thier god. not only are they killing the doctors, nurses, councilors, and secretaries who maintain the clinic but they are also killing any pregnant woman inside as well as (and here comes the true irony) the unborn "children" they scream about saving. O_O I've never heard of them blowing up abortion clinics. I know there was this one that shot a late-term abortion doctor in a church and killed him.. He pleaded not guilty and said the killing was justified "to protect the unborn". Seriously I don't get how a fetus really has more rights than a living being. People scream all they want but after it's born they don't give a s**t. hence why i happen to be pro choice and pro death peanalty- Consistency. same but not really for that reason but I do throw it in the faces of those that are pro-life but pro-death penalty as well. of course i could go with, 'if it were aborted then we wouldn't be having this issue now would we?'
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 6:44 am
Isaac488 Lazarus The Resurected Isaac488 Lazarus The Resurected Isaac488 Kimihiro_Watanuki It's simple really. Instead of making abortion illegal, which unfairly imposes one groups' morality on others, simply make abortion less necessary. One of the major problems with the pro-life argument is that its proponents pander on about how life needs to be protected and preserved, but then cease to give a flying ******** about the child after its born. You know what's ironic is that they show a picture of a baby AFTER it is born instead of while it is still in the womb? Most arguments I've heard is "UR MERDERIN BAYBEEZ!!!" which really irritates me because in all the health classes I've been in it is NOT called a baby in the womb. It is a fetus. When it is born it is then called a baby. It's like the whole 'lava, magma' difference. I tend to find the irony in fundamentalists who blow up abortion clinics in the name of thier god. not only are they killing the doctors, nurses, councilors, and secretaries who maintain the clinic but they are also killing any pregnant woman inside as well as (and here comes the true irony) the unborn "children" they scream about saving. O_O I've never heard of them blowing up abortion clinics. I know there was this one that shot a late-term abortion doctor in a church and killed him.. He pleaded not guilty and said the killing was justified "to protect the unborn". Seriously I don't get how a fetus really has more rights than a living being. People scream all they want but after it's born they don't give a s**t. hence why i happen to be pro choice and pro death peanalty- Consistency. same but not really for that reason but I do throw it in the faces of those that are pro-life but pro-death penalty as well. of course i could go with, 'if it were aborted then we wouldn't be having this issue now would we?' You could try but it never flies with them.
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Lazarus The Resurected Crew
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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 4:16 pm
Y'know I have a question I've been thinking about for a bit...
People (well pregnant women) come in to America to have their children because if you're born in america then you're american. If pro-lifers do have some bill passed to dub a fetus a "person" *gack* then wouldn't that just ******** over all of the pregnant illegals wanting to come into the country since their fetus is now as much a person as the woman birthing it..
so...how the hell would that work then?
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