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 Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:01 am
The live bearer tank should be fine aggression-wise. Many people Try breeding Muppies or Gollys and thus keep the two species together. Same with platies. The male guppies will try to mate with the mollies though, they'll do anything that moves. My male guppy always tried mating with my Male Wrestling Halfbeaks, which look nothing like a guppy but he didn't care.
The thing with corys is they like to be in groups. Same with otos. That's why I suggested putting one more in your 5g. If you get them for your Livebearer tank, put at least 4, but maybe 5 or 6 depending on how big you go. I have two "green corys" but I'm giving them to my grandfather because he has more of the same species and they'll be happier there.
Otos are hit and miss because they're pretty much all wild caught and the stresses of being caught, shipping etc weaken them. So by the time you bring them home, a lot of them will die. I bought 3 for my 5g and two of them died. So now there's one lonely oto and I need to find him some friends from a good source. So if you're tight on money, I wouldn't go with otos.
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:51 pm
Oh the thing about the live bearer aggression was only cuz my niece has live bearers and now cuz of how many males she put in there they are all dead and the only thing left are females and a pleco. didn't mean anything about two different ones being aggressive lol.
Forgot to clarify.
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 4:49 pm
Bain_V Albino Cory Cats? Those things are cute and have I had 2 but I gave them to my niece when I gave her a 10 gallon tank with live bearers, I love cory cats ^^.I like the looks of the first tank. The 10-15g guppy/molly tank, you may have problems with aggression/breeding because of the fact their livebearers and are constantly trying to breed. I'm sure you know that already though just wanted to make sure that it was brought to your attention. Since your doing a live bearer tank at 10-15g for the relative safety of the pleco I'd move it into that tank if you start it before the big cichlid tank, my parents are keeping one in a 10 g until they start up their 55g and I'm keeping one in a 10g until I start a new 30g since it'll be awhile before I buy another tank. Anywho if you don't move the pleco or you start the agressive one early, I'd add an otto or a cory cat at minimum into the 10-15g cory cats I know are fine with livebearers and would help with cleanup of the gravel. Yep albino. I don't plan to be breeding any fish anytime soon, they will all be the same sex. i'll keep that in mind about the pleco, and i'll probably be getting more cory cats for the 10-15g since they are so good about cleaning fish waste (:
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 4:52 pm
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The live bearer tank should be fine aggression-wise. Many people Try breeding Muppies or Gollys and thus keep the two species together. Same with platies. The male guppies will try to mate with the mollies though, they'll do anything that moves. My male guppy always tried mating with my Male Wrestling Halfbeaks, which look nothing like a guppy but he didn't care.
The thing with corys is they like to be in groups. Same with otos. That's why I suggested putting one more in your 5g. If you get them for your Livebearer tank, put at least 4, but maybe 5 or 6 depending on how big you go. I have two "green corys" but I'm giving them to my grandfather because he has more of the same species and they'll be happier there.
Otos are hit and miss because they're pretty much all wild caught and the stresses of being caught, shipping etc weaken them. So by the time you bring them home, a lot of them will die. I bought 3 for my 5g and two of them died. So now there's one lonely oto and I need to find him some friends from a good source. So if you're tight on money, I wouldn't go with otos.
Horror Inc.I was just thinking about putting platties in there as well. Suggestion on how many of each? I will most likely be sticking with cory cats. I had ghost shrimp before, but they died.
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:37 pm
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If by "fish waste" you mean fish poop, hate to break it to you, but corys don't eat that. In fact, no fish do. The only way to get rid of it is through proper filtering and water changes. They do however eat left over food if you overfeed your fish. As well, plecos eat algae and some shrimp do.
If you get say, a 20g tank you could do 5-6 regular sized corys (double that for pygmy corys, but those are more expensive)and about 6 of each of guppys, mollies, and platies. That's for a 20g High. A 20g Long you could get away with a few more of each species. With a 10 gallon, cut all those numbers in half. Actually, mollies get pretty big so I don't know if you would even want to put those in a 10g. If you go with just 10 gallons, eliminate the mollies and get more platies or guppys.
I have ghost shrimp and I think they're cute. Mine breed all the time so I usually see the females filled with little green eggs.
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:38 pm
Bain_V Oh the thing about the live bearer aggression was only cuz my niece has live bearers and now cuz of how many males she put in there they are all dead and the only thing left are females and a pleco. didn't mean anything about two different ones being aggressive lol. Forgot to clarify.
Aaah yeah. She probably had too many in too small a size of tank for their number. My grandfather has 5 or 6 guppy tanks with tons of them but his tanks are pretty big. He also separates the babies so they can grow a bit before reintroducing them to the main tanks.
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 7:06 pm
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If by "fish waste" you mean fish poop, hate to break it to you, but corys don't eat that. In fact, no fish do. The only way to get rid of it is through proper filtering and water changes. They do however eat left over food if you overfeed your fish. As well, plecos eat algae and some shrimp do.
If you get say, a 20g tank you could do 5-6 regular sized corys (double that for pygmy corys, but those are more expensive)and about 6 of each of guppys, mollies, and platies. That's for a 20g High. A 20g Long you could get away with a few more of each species. With a 10 gallon, cut all those numbers in half. Actually, mollies get pretty big so I don't know if you would even want to put those in a 10g. If you go with just 10 gallons, eliminate the mollies and get more platies or guppys.
I have ghost shrimp and I think they're cute. Mine breed all the time so I usually see the females filled with little green eggs.
Horror Inc. I've seen mine eat the poo o.0 I read somewhere that mollies do not school, so maybe I could just get 2 of those? There are different types too, I was thinking of the silver mollies.
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Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 11:06 am
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Yeah, I don't think they do, but to be on the safe side, do a little more research on them before you just get 2. They also prefer brackish water but I think most people just keep them in fresh.
What you saw the corys eat was probably not poo. Most of the detritus on the bottom of a tank looks the same. They also could have just been niffling through it to find food. You should be putting extra food in there for them if you're not already doing so. When I feed my tanks, I put enough in for each and every fish, even the "cleaner" types.
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Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 2:20 pm
For my cory cats I just put in a few sinking shrimp pellets and a algae wafer every day once a day, but i often find them eating what I would call fish waste which is food not eaten by the fish at the top of the tank and they clean the gravel by doing that very well, as for the poo they don't eat that from what I've seen at all, yours might have done it on accident thinking it was food but typically it's not something that will happen on a regular basis.
as for mollies, I'm not sure about them, I know a bit about balloon mollies cuz my mom fell in love with them till they became "boring" to her.
Have you confirmed what size tank your getting yet?
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Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 7:51 pm
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Yeah, I don't think they do, but to be on the safe side, do a little more research on them before you just get 2. They also prefer brackish water but I think most people just keep them in fresh.
What you saw the corys eat was probably not poo. Most of the detritus on the bottom of a tank looks the same. They also could have just been niffling through it to find food. You should be putting extra food in there for them if you're not already doing so. When I feed my tanks, I put enough in for each and every fish, even the "cleaner" types.
Horror Inc. Okay. I put a algae waffer in there every other day. Should I be putting one in there everyday?
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Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 7:53 pm
Bain_V For my cory cats I just put in a few sinking shrimp pellets and a algae wafer every day once a day, but i often find them eating what I would call fish waste which is food not eaten by the fish at the top of the tank and they clean the gravel by doing that very well, as for the poo they don't eat that from what I've seen at all, yours might have done it on accident thinking it was food but typically it's not something that will happen on a regular basis. as for mollies, I'm not sure about them, I know a bit about balloon mollies cuz my mom fell in love with them till they became "boring" to her. Have you confirmed what size tank your getting yet? Ah I see, I just happened to catch them nibbling at it and walked away, when I came back it was gone. I'm not a big fan of the balloon mollies (: I think they're cute, but I wouldnt want one
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Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:10 pm
From what I've read the balloon molly body is caused by a deformity that effects their swimming, thats the reason I don't keep them myself. would rather not have a deformed fish that seems to have a lesser chance of surviving in any of my tanks.
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Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 8:31 am
Bain_V From what I've read the balloon molly body is caused by a deformity that effects their swimming, thats the reason I don't keep them myself. would rather not have a deformed fish that seems to have a lesser chance of surviving in any of my tanks. Yeah, they are akward looking swimmers
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Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 7:34 pm
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Yeah, you should feed them everyday. Some people do have one day a week where they don't feed their fish, which can be good but in a community tank I would feed them every day. If you find that they don't eat the whole algae wafer, you can break it in half. My corys eat other types of pellet sna d blood worms, but everyday I put half an algae wafer in my 20g for my BN pleco and the other half in my puffer tank for the oto. That's keeps them fed without wasting anything.
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Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:32 am
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Yeah, you should feed them everyday. Some people do have one day a week where they don't feed their fish, which can be good but in a community tank I would feed them every day. If you find that they don't eat the whole algae wafer, you can break it in half. My corys eat other types of pellet sna d blood worms, but everyday I put half an algae wafer in my 20g for my BN pleco and the other half in my puffer tank for the oto. That's keeps them fed without wasting anything.
Horror Inc. Okay, when you say everyday, do you mean twice a day?
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