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Dahmi

Devoted Lunatic

PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:55 am


If you think about it, homosexual feelings have ALWAYS been around, though today we see more of it where as before they tried to hide it. Japan and its people just seem more open with those feelings. Alot of the animes and games and such from Japan are usually edited to HIDE those implications when it arrives here in America. Just like with Kingdom Hearts, in the Final Mix game thats only in Japan, there are scenes that were actually deleted from the American version with Riku and Sora. I have seen a few but I can't understand them well...Its hard getting through the game in Japanese. But it shows more of Riku's feelings for Sora. (why delete these scenes? O_o It explains so much!)
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 6:03 am


kupo-tenshi
Well, I was browsing around trying to figure out what Kairi's name actually meant when I came across this. I forget the site I got it from though. ^^;

"Sora, Riku, and Kairi are named after the three primary elements of nature. In Japanese, riku means 'land', kai means 'ocean', and sora means 'sky'. the name Kairi could originate from the Japanese word "hikari", which means light, because she is the only untainted main character."

I don't know if this holds any truth but it seems logical. I'm not sure about the untainted part though. She is a princess of heart and does save Sora when he was a heartless, but Kairi doesn't strike me as completely innocent.

If Kairi's name partly means the ocean I can see the seperation. Riku is the land, Sora is the sky, and Kairi, the ocean, seperates these two. In the game you always see Riku looking off into the horizon. Or perhaps he's looking out towards the sea?


Stion
That's exactly what Kairi did. She tore Sora and Riku's attention away from each other (or something..I dunno) and made them focus on wanting to go to other worlds.

Actually, it was Riku's idea to leave the islands. Kairi could've just been wound up in the two boys talk of leaving and just went along with it. However, it was because Kairi came there in the first place that Riku started to think of these thoughts of leaving. The seperation between Riku and Sora started when Kairi came to the islands.

Riku was always enthusiastic about leaving after that but Sora, in my opinion, was indifferent about the idea. In the beginning I got the feeling that Sora and Kairi thought this was another adventure where, in the end, they would return home again. When the door opened and when Sora finally realizes how determined Riku is to leave the islands he seemed shocked and confused to me. Think back to the part where Sora meets Riku for the last time on the islands.

Maybe one of the reasons Riku wanted to leave so bad was because of the islands themselves. They were small and surrounded by miles of ocean. Kairi=ocean. Therefore Riku hates Kairi. xDD My twisted logic.


Stion
So, basically, she's where ground meets sky. So maybe it could even go into something like Riku and Sora are forbidden to be together and they need to have Kairi in between them for a challenge in the story line, or the main bump in the road to get over.

Kairi seems to be the divider between the two boys but clearly isn't a "bump in the road" to get past. Kairi will always be there...the ocean will always be there if you want to look at it that way. But the ocean isn't everywhere, whereas the sky and land meet often. Now that Kairi is back on the islands and Sora is out looking for Riku there will be no "Kairi" to get in the way so to say. If any sort of "romantic" relationship is to form, it'll happen when there's an absense of ocean and when only the land meets the sky.

I hope I made the least bit of sense. :'D

now we have to worry about Namine gonk she even SAID she'd see Sora again and all that crap.

Dahmi

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Scathach13

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:04 pm


Actually, I don't think Namine will be that much of a threat. My bet's on her ending up with BHK... Unless it turns out that BHK falls in love with Sora... And then we'll have a whole new problem. eek

Those clips they edited out - where did you see them? I might be able to translate them to some extent... (pms this to you in case you never look at thread again).
PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:07 pm


Actually, the shojo-ai in FFX-2 was... well... not particurally edited. Ehem.

Scathach13


Torrina Shirogane

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:11 pm


Scathach13
Actually, I don't think Namine will be that much of a threat. My bet's on her ending up with BHK... Unless it turns out that BHK falls in love with Sora... And then we'll have a whole new problem. eek

Those clips they edited out - where did you see them? I might be able to translate them to some extent... (pms this to you in case you never look at thread again).


Yeah, I don't see Namine as too much of a threat, either. I just cannot imagine her and Sora together at all.

Lol, but I remember before CoM came out, I nearly flipped out when it was revealed that Riku was supposedly protecting Namine.

(Of course we know now that it was the Riku Replica, and not Riku himself, but at the time, the idea of Riku wanting to protect some new female character was really, really scary... gonk )
PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 12:03 pm


Thank God, the real Riku didn't give a s***! blaugh

Scathach13


Scathach13

PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 5:32 pm


It's probably a good thing Namine didn't tell him why Sora was in the memory-fixer-thingi... It's quite possible that she would have been dead within seconds. Or at least had her ears destroyed through "YOU WHAT!?!?!?!" being screamed from 3 inches away...
PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 9:19 pm


Lol, of course he didn't. He's desperately in love with his Sora-chan, after all. X3

Haha, yeah, that was probably a smart move on her part. Riku probably would have, like, shook her roughly by the shoulders and yelled, "You b***h, what the hell did you do to him?!" XD;;

Torrina Shirogane


Scathach13

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 5:41 pm


... And then bashing her head against the memory-thing, then whacking her with the Soul Eater a few times... Mickey is greatly disturbed... And so on.
PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 12:15 am


Riku wouldn't shake Namine. He would kill her. Everyone knows that you kill first and ask questions later. 3nodding

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Torrina Shirogane

PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 5:07 pm


Lol...But...I don't know...I can't see Riku as the kind of guy who would murder in cold blood like that. XD;
PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:41 am


Ah. But he is one that would do anything for Sora, as we all know. 3nodding They kinda cancel each other out I suppose...

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Torrina Shirogane

PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:40 am


Bleeding Oath
Ah. But he is one that would do anything for Sora, as we all know. 3nodding They kinda cancel each other out I suppose...


True, but if he was the kind of guy who murdered anyone who stood in his way, Kairi would have been dead, buried, and sprouting daisies long ago. ^^;
PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 3:41 pm


Torrina Shirogane
Bleeding Oath
Ah. But he is one that would do anything for Sora, as we all know. 3nodding They kinda cancel each other out I suppose...


True, but if he was the kind of guy who murdered anyone who stood in his way, Kairi would have been dead, buried, and sprouting daisies long ago. ^^;
Kairi isn't worthy of Daisys. She would sprout weeds. D:<

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Torrina Shirogane

PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 3:48 pm


Bleeding Oath
Torrina Shirogane
Bleeding Oath
Ah. But he is one that would do anything for Sora, as we all know. 3nodding They kinda cancel each other out I suppose...


True, but if he was the kind of guy who murdered anyone who stood in his way, Kairi would have been dead, buried, and sprouting daisies long ago. ^^;
Kairi isn't worthy of Daisys. She would sprout weeds. D:<


*cackle* That totally just made my day. >w< I am so saving that...X33
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