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 Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 9:43 pm
Ailinea As a safety precaution, shelters have to put down pitbulls, and I believe it is a law. Unfortunately, the statistics are against pitbulls, and violence runs in the breed, so they have to put all pitbulls down in order to protect children and owners. Oh, it is the law in your area? That's sad. : ( I love bully dogs, I'm really lad my state forbids breed-specific laws. (Especially because pit bull bans tend to ban anything that looks like a "pit bull", which isn't even a breed, but a name that is used to describe several breeds...) The sad part is, a great deal of that is media hype. American Pit Bull Terriers were bred to have dog aggression, not people aggression-- and the dog aggression can be dealt with by realizing it may be an issue and being responsible. I don't have a problem with kill-shelters. They have to euthanize, they just don't have the space, and they have to focus on getting homes for as many adoptable animals as possible. I also don't have a problem with euthanizing animals if their quality of life is so low that... well, someone I knew refused to euthanize their cat even though it: was 23 years old, blind, deaf, could no longer move its back legs, had to be shaved because it couldn't groom itself, was having various organ failure... and so on. They insisted their cat still had a happy life, which just wasn't true at all. That poor cat looked so pitiful. It could hardly even eat. As for putting down aggressive animals... I say yes, to a point. If it's a behavioral issue that can be worked with (food aggression, say), then try that first by all means. But a dangerous animal should not be allowed the opportunity to bite again-- it's bad for pet owners, it's bad for pets. Human-aggressive animals are unadoptable animals. Is there a better solution?
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 8:25 am
In my lifetime my family has had a number of animals. In 2000, we had to put our oldest dog, Cleo, to sleep. Just this year we had to put both Dog the Dog and Cat the (nonono don't tell me!) Cat to sleep. They were all around 16 when we did put them to sleep; Cleo had really bad arthritis and coukdn't walk up the stairs to my Nana's house, and she lost all bladder control. Dog must've had a stroke or something, because she walked into our basement and refused to get up, but she would cry whenever Tori, my sister, or I would walk away; she couldn't walk, couldn't eat, coudn't drink... And Cat was so old, she had a severe thyroid problem and no matter how much she ate she was just skin and bones; she was always in pain, and she refused to eat in the end. We had them put to sleep because they were in pain and suffering. If it's a mercy to the animal, then I would rather have them fall asleep and never wake up than cry and go into convulsions and be in pain until their dying gasp rattles their disease-ridden bodies to the core and they stiffen up and don't move anymore.
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Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 5:53 pm
I can only condone putting an animal down for 2 reasons.
1) They are old and suffering from age. If an animal is suffering and no matter what you do they continue suffering then I dont know what you can do to help them.
2) They are sick. Its the same reasoning as the first reason.
Now when it comes to people who put down their "beloved" pets just because they dont want them anymore. Its disgusting.
But the worst are the so called "animal cops" They put down "dangerous" animals that are rescued and dont even give them a chance. Pits are NOT biologicaly mean. And they can be retrained if they have been taught to attack people. Some states have the "lets see if they are mean and then put them down" law, which is better then the "lets not even give them a chance to proove us wrong" laws, but its still horrible.
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Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 6:33 pm
KiriyamaKazuo I work at a Vet Clinic and I see animals get put down every week. That would probably be the number one reason why I couldn't be a vet. crying
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Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 6:59 pm
Hate to be contrary InfinitysDaughter, but yes, Pits are biologically mean. They're usually bred either for looks (s they'll probably be imbred and retarded) or for fighting. Pit Bulls were meant when they were first "designed" to be fighting dogs. They bred the dogs they wanted to have a mean disposition and be vicious fighters. It's a terrible thing, but every "pedigree" breed was kept alive in early civilization to have a purpose. These dogs' purpose was to fight invaders and enemies. A history of the pit bull, while somewhat vague, can be found here:
The history of Pit Bulls ad their ancestors
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Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 10:27 pm
I think it's fair in most cases.
For instance, if the animal is in pain. My kitty sneakers had a liver disease, and it was very very painful for him. For awhile we had him on a lot of pain killers, but he had to go to the vet almost daily. His sickness just kept getting worse and they couldn't medicate him anymore. I didn't want him to feel anymore pain so I decided to have him put down. They do it humanly, it's just one little shot and then they just fall off to sleep without feeling pain.dammit i'm crying
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 7:21 am
Aw, don't cry...! I know how hard it is to be there when an animal is put down. Dog was put down right here in our home. I was there with everyone else, and I was the one sitting there next to her whispering kind words in her ear while the vet gave her the shot... It's hard, but it's also comforting to know that the both of them- your Sneakers and my Dog the dog -are in a better place and not in pain.
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 12:37 pm
This thread makes me sad; so many sad stories and losses sad I also hate when people put animals to sleep just because they don't want it anymore due to various reasons, like ''It's too old, it's no fun anymore''( the cat was about one year old; it wasn't a cute, cuddly kitten anymore...) stressed I really, really hate that!
But it's probably fair to put it down if its really sick, and it's visibly suffering. I've worried about my cats plenty of times, they've suffered from kinds of strange things. Once my cat suddenly couldn't walk. We we're afraid something terrible had happened, and I was really worried when my dad brought it to the vet. We had agreed to put it to sleep if it was something very, very serious which couldn't be treated in advance, just in case. Lucily she got a shot with antibiotica or something, and recovered perfectly. I still don't know what happened, but I'm just so happy that my cat's still with us.
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 8:29 am
KiriyamaKazuo One that that gets me mad is when the animal can be saved, but the owner dosent want to spend the money on the treatment. Some of us can't AFFORD treatment, dude. Sorry, I love animals just as much as everyone else here, but if it's a choice between euthanesia and my whole family (6 people, 3 pets though if euthanesia was a topic then it would be 2, huh?) going hungry for a long time, or losing our home, I'm sorry but the rest of the family comes first.
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 7:32 pm
Callowyn of Calypso KiriyamaKazuo I work at a Vet Clinic and I see animals get put down every week. That would probably be the number one reason why I couldn't be a vet. crying Thats understandable. It took me a while it get used to it. Most of the animals i've seen get put down were suffering so I think the vet was doing them a favor. Think of it like that makes me feel better about it.
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 4:48 pm
KiriyamaKazuo Callowyn of Calypso KiriyamaKazuo I work at a Vet Clinic and I see animals get put down every week. That would probably be the number one reason why I couldn't be a vet. crying Thats understandable. It took me a while it get used to it. Most of the animals i've seen get put down were suffering so I think the vet was doing them a favor. Think of it like that makes me feel better about it. Yeah, I know...but I just don't think I could look at an animal and think "I'm sorry, but I'm going to kill you to set you free." sad I just don't have that kind of strength in me.
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 3:33 pm
Sarasan Hate to be contrary InfinitysDaughter, but yes, Pits are biologically mean. They're usually bred either for looks (s they'll probably be imbred and retarded) or for fighting. Pit Bulls were meant when they were first "designed" to be fighting dogs. They bred the dogs they wanted to have a mean disposition and be vicious fighters. It's a terrible thing, but every "pedigree" breed was kept alive in early civilization to have a purpose. These dogs' purpose was to fight invaders and enemies. A history of the pit bull, while somewhat vague, can be found here:
The history of Pit Bulls ad their ancestors
[EDIT] Just to quote the artical you linked, "capable of extreme ferociousness but unwavering loyalty and gentleness towards humans"
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 5:54 pm
Yeah.. Y'know what's weird about fighting dogs? The day before their owners set them on another dog in the ring, alot of them will feed their dogs gunpowder in their normal food. It'll irritate their stomachs and make them ferocious.
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 8:06 am
Callowyn of Calypso KiriyamaKazuo Callowyn of Calypso KiriyamaKazuo I work at a Vet Clinic and I see animals get put down every week. That would probably be the number one reason why I couldn't be a vet. crying Thats understandable. It took me a while it get used to it. Most of the animals i've seen get put down were suffering so I think the vet was doing them a favor. Think of it like that makes me feel better about it. Yeah, I know...but I just don't think I could look at an animal and think "I'm sorry, but I'm going to kill you to set you free." sad I just don't have that kind of strength in me. I know same here I couldn't look into it's eyes and be nice to it when actually it's going to die..what if it's happy and being nice..I couldn't let it die..my dog died infront of me..that was a sad moment and he was in pain what if it was happy..it would make it worse.
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 8:08 am
Sarasan Yeah.. Y'know what's weird about fighting dogs? The day before their owners set them on another dog in the ring, alot of them will feed their dogs gunpowder in their normal food. It'll irritate their stomachs and make them ferocious. the owners are complete jerks..we sould feen them gun powder light a stick on fire and poke there belly buttons. or better yet shove it up their asses..they make me soo mad to make a dog do that when it could be happy wuth a loving family, or even helping someone.
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