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Election Poll: The New Avantgarde Governor
Darkend_Angel
31%
 31%  [ 7 ]
Leowen
36%
 36%  [ 8 ]
TheDDRRhyno
31%
 31%  [ 7 ]
Total Votes : 22


Locke Trufeld
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 12:35 pm


Well, also as a governor, I'd like to point out that Leowen seems promising with quite a lot of his experiences. I'm sure graphics would help make things more interesting in this RP. But that's just from what I see so far.

And.. as the SwordNamed Truth, I would like to point out that Leowen's character that will be the Governor is not going to be bossy, but the opposite, he has stated. So there's no worry of him being bossy when elected Governor. He wouldn't be like how Vicki said.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 1:28 pm


Locke Trufeld
Well, also as a governor, I'd like to point out that Leowen seems promising with quite a lot of his experiences. I'm sure graphics would help make things more interesting in this RP. But that's just from what I see so far.

And.. as the SwordNamed Truth, I would like to point out that Leowen's character that will be the Governor is not going to be bossy, but the opposite, he has stated. So there's no worry of him being bossy when elected Governor. He wouldn't be like how Vicki said.


Hey there Kaz. Guess what. You're a hypocrite! wink You tell me you're not going to vote for anyone nor take sides and then go off and write this. Good job on not making sense.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 1:32 pm


Locke Trufeld
Well, also as a governor, I'd like to point out that Leowen seems promising with quite a lot of his experiences. I'm sure graphics would help make things more interesting in this RP. But that's just from what I see so far.

And.. as the SwordNamed Truth, I would like to point out that Leowen's character that will be the Governor is not going to be bossy, but the opposite, he has stated. So there's no worry of him being bossy when elected Governor. He wouldn't be like how Vicki said.


Leowen hasn't even created a character to be governor. If you vote for him, that's like voting for someone you know nothing about. You don't know what kind of personality or anything this character will have. He could get in there and be the same bossy guy he is now. We don't even know him well. Rico (TheDDRRhyno) on the other hand, is a nice person. I know this because I've known him for years, and I know that he will make a good governor, and I know that he will be nice to people. I think that that is more important that graphics. If you vote for someone just because they'll do something like make graphics, but they aren't a nice person, then that is not a very educated vote. You need to vote for the good of the whole community. You need to vote for someone who will treat people nicely and fairly.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 1:59 pm


If you vote for someone because that person is nice, that's just as bad a reason. Being nice and being a good governor are two VERY different things. Honestly, they aren't even always compatible. You can't run something effectively by being nice all the time. Also, Kaz said that the graphics were a plus, not the main reason to vote for him. Put things in perspective and consider what people are actually saying. Kaz was merely pointing out that Leowen has experience, and knows how to go about this.

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Locke Trufeld
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 2:03 pm


I only backed him up because he was being pushed with lies. Do you think I, the SwordNamed Truth, would allow that? If you or Dark were to be in the same position, I would've done the same for you. Don't call me a hypocrite. I still haven't voted for anyone.

And sure, he hasn't made his character.. in the Vanguardian Axis. He lets me in on some stuff in IM, and I suggested him to post his info here. I'm sure he's working on it. He has told me how his new character, Alexander will be, with brief details, and enough ways for it to make sense.

And wouldn't the same apply for Rico? How would you know he'll be a nice person? Just because of 6 years of experience with him? Right now, he's not very nice to me, just because I wouldn't give him mod powers.

Now, aside from all these experience, I've had a very deep experience in Leadership itself, as you may know in a group called UPF, which consisted of over 200 people at one point. If you're saying I'm not making a very educated guess, then once again, that's the same as you insulting my judgement as the successful leader that I was in UPF. I say this for the good of the community, and I'm not picking sides. I'm only drawing out the Pros and Cons of the candidates. That's all.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 2:08 pm


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If you vote for someone because that person is nice, that's just as bad a reason. Being nice and being a good governor are two VERY different things. Honestly, they aren't even always compatible. You can't run something effectively by being nice all the time. Also, Kaz said that the graphics were a plus, not the main reason to vote for him. Put things in perspective and consider what people are actually saying. Kaz was merely pointing out that Leowen has experience, and knows how to go about this.


Why hello there. Okay, I'm going to break down what you said into a response.

1. Would you like to have someone utterly vicious running the place where you live? Hmm, maybe not.
2. How would graphics be a plus in running something? Pretty pictures will not make Avantgarde better.
3. He mentioned nothing of his experience. You just contradicted yourself buddy. sad That's bad.

TheDDRRhyno


Locke Trufeld
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 2:12 pm


TheDDRRhyno
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If you vote for someone because that person is nice, that's just as bad a reason. Being nice and being a good governor are two VERY different things. Honestly, they aren't even always compatible. You can't run something effectively by being nice all the time. Also, Kaz said that the graphics were a plus, not the main reason to vote for him. Put things in perspective and consider what people are actually saying. Kaz was merely pointing out that Leowen has experience, and knows how to go about this.


Why hello there. Okay, I'm going to break down what you said into a response.

1. Would you like to have someone utterly vicious running the place where you live? Hmm, maybe not.
2. How would graphics be a plus in running something? Pretty pictures will not make Avantgarde better.
3. He mentioned nothing of his experience. You just contradicted yourself buddy. sad That's bad.


1. No one knows if he'l be utterly vicious or not. He told me that Alexander is the complete opposite of Leowen.
2. Yes it would. It grabs people's attentions. Gives them ideas of what things are in the RP. The same reason why Grand Vanguard needs a map of the Vanguard City. o.o; That reminds me..
3. He HAS meantioned his past experiences with many things. The only problem is, Vicki deleted his long speech. So you can't say that.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 2:14 pm


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If you vote for someone because that person is nice, that's just as bad a reason. Being nice and being a good governor are two VERY different things. Honestly, they aren't even always compatible. You can't run something effectively by being nice all the time. Also, Kaz said that the graphics were a plus, not the main reason to vote for him. Put things in perspective and consider what people are actually saying. Kaz was merely pointing out that Leowen has experience, and knows how to go about this.


Rico has experience, I've known him for many years. We don't know what experience Leowen has. He may state his experience, but I have witnessed Rico's experience in all the years I have known him. And I supposed you'd rather have a jerk boss you around and run Avantgarde in a way that would not be appealing to citizens.

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TheDDRRhyno

PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 2:19 pm


Locke Trufeld
I only backed him up because he was being pushed with lies. Do you think I, the SwordNamed Truth, would allow that? If you or Dark were to be in the same position, I would've done the same for you. Don't call me a hypocrite. I still haven't voted for anyone.

And sure, he hasn't made his character.. in the Vanguardian Axis. He lets me in on some stuff in IM, and I suggested him to post his info here. I'm sure he's working on it. He has told me how his new character, Alexander will be, with brief details, and enough ways for it to make sense.

And wouldn't the same apply for Rico? How would you know he'll be a nice person? Just because of 6 years of experience with him? Right now, he's not very nice to me, just because I wouldn't give him mod powers.

Now, aside from all these experience, I've had a very deep experience in Leadership itself, as you may know in a group called UPF, which consisted of over 200 people at one point. If you're saying I'm not making a very educated guess, then once again, that's the same as you insulting my judgement as the successful leader that I was in UPF. I say this for the good of the community, and I'm not picking sides. I'm only drawing out the Pros and Cons of the candidates. That's all.


1. Kaz, your sword means nothing. Also, elaborate. What lies was he being pushed of? Vicki's opinion?

2. I called you a hypocrite because you told me you weren't going to side for anyone. You even said yourself that this election means nothing to you. Then why didn't you just let the candidates and anyone else who actually CARED about it to handle it?

3. You have nothing. No one in this RP besides you and Leowen know anything about his character. Even if he is going to be nice, would you vote for someone who you have NO CLUE about? No? I didn't think so.

4. I'm not being polite to you because you're being an a*****e. To me and to Vicki. And I'm not mad at you for not making me crew. I knew you were going to reject.

5. I wasn't around in your UPF days so I'm going to leave that alone.

6. Candidates? Um, don't you mean candidate? And don't mention me. You haven't said any pros about me, and Darkend hasn't been brought up since her speech.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 2:22 pm


Locke Trufeld
TheDDRRhyno
Partisus
If you vote for someone because that person is nice, that's just as bad a reason. Being nice and being a good governor are two VERY different things. Honestly, they aren't even always compatible. You can't run something effectively by being nice all the time. Also, Kaz said that the graphics were a plus, not the main reason to vote for him. Put things in perspective and consider what people are actually saying. Kaz was merely pointing out that Leowen has experience, and knows how to go about this.


Why hello there. Okay, I'm going to break down what you said into a response.

1. Would you like to have someone utterly vicious running the place where you live? Hmm, maybe not.
2. How would graphics be a plus in running something? Pretty pictures will not make Avantgarde better.
3. He mentioned nothing of his experience. You just contradicted yourself buddy. sad That's bad.


1. No one knows if he'l be utterly vicious or not. He told me that Alexander is the complete opposite of Leowen.
2. Yes it would. It grabs people's attentions. Gives them ideas of what things are in the RP. The same reason why Grand Vanguard needs a map of the Vanguard City. o.o; That reminds me..
3. He HAS meantioned his past experiences with many things. The only problem is, Vicki deleted his long speech. So you can't say that.


1. Do we know that? Does anyone else besides you and Leowen know that? No. I was just responding to him saying that thing about nice people and governors.

2. It really wouldn't help that much. It would help them know what it looks like, but not improve it.

3. I meant you, not Leowen.

TheDDRRhyno


Locke Trufeld
Captain

PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 2:28 pm


TheDDRRhyno
Locke Trufeld
I only backed him up because he was being pushed with lies. Do you think I, the SwordNamed Truth, would allow that? If you or Dark were to be in the same position, I would've done the same for you. Don't call me a hypocrite. I still haven't voted for anyone.

And sure, he hasn't made his character.. in the Vanguardian Axis. He lets me in on some stuff in IM, and I suggested him to post his info here. I'm sure he's working on it. He has told me how his new character, Alexander will be, with brief details, and enough ways for it to make sense.

And wouldn't the same apply for Rico? How would you know he'll be a nice person? Just because of 6 years of experience with him? Right now, he's not very nice to me, just because I wouldn't give him mod powers.

Now, aside from all these experience, I've had a very deep experience in Leadership itself, as you may know in a group called UPF, which consisted of over 200 people at one point. If you're saying I'm not making a very educated guess, then once again, that's the same as you insulting my judgement as the successful leader that I was in UPF. I say this for the good of the community, and I'm not picking sides. I'm only drawing out the Pros and Cons of the candidates. That's all.


1. Kaz, your sword means nothing. Also, elaborate. What lies was he being pushed of? Vicki's opinion?

2. I called you a hypocrite because you told me you weren't going to side for anyone. You even said yourself that this election means nothing to you. Then why didn't you just let the candidates and anyone else who actually CARED about it to handle it?

3. You have nothing. No one in this RP besides you and Leowen know anything about his character. Even if he is going to be nice, would you vote for someone who you have NO CLUE about? No? I didn't think so.

4. I'm not being polite to you because you're being an a*****e. To me and to Vicki. And I'm not mad at you for not making me crew. I knew you were going to reject.

5. I wasn't around in your UPF days so I'm going to leave that alone.

6. Candidates? Um, don't you mean candidate? And don't mention me. You haven't said any pros about me, and Darkend hasn't been brought up since her speech.


1. You've been with me for 6 years. How could you not know the SwordNamed Truth? And Vicki said that he will be bossy, when Leowen says that he'll be using a different character, that is unlike Leowen Dravon in the RP.

2. Because it's not fair. Vicki deletes his speech, tells lies about him, and you think the SwordNamed Truth would be fine with it? I'm making it fair for everyone. That's all. It's not siding with anyone, since I'd do it for you if you were to be in the same position. And I did it because he talks to me more than anyone else, I believe. After all, I am the leader, and know how things work around here.

3. Look, I said he'll be putting it here soon. He's not even online right now, for Pete's sake! And I do have some clue about Alexander. Either way, I'm not voting anyway.

4. I'm being an a*****e? How would that be? I don't see how I'm being an a*****e to you two, unless you two were the ones that started with something instead.

5. That would be fine.

6. Like I said in number 2, I would say the Pros and Cons if they were meantioned in a negative way.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 2:31 pm


TheDDRRhyno
Locke Trufeld
TheDDRRhyno
Partisus
If you vote for someone because that person is nice, that's just as bad a reason. Being nice and being a good governor are two VERY different things. Honestly, they aren't even always compatible. You can't run something effectively by being nice all the time. Also, Kaz said that the graphics were a plus, not the main reason to vote for him. Put things in perspective and consider what people are actually saying. Kaz was merely pointing out that Leowen has experience, and knows how to go about this.


Why hello there. Okay, I'm going to break down what you said into a response.

1. Would you like to have someone utterly vicious running the place where you live? Hmm, maybe not.
2. How would graphics be a plus in running something? Pretty pictures will not make Avantgarde better.
3. He mentioned nothing of his experience. You just contradicted yourself buddy. sad That's bad.


1. No one knows if he'l be utterly vicious or not. He told me that Alexander is the complete opposite of Leowen.
2. Yes it would. It grabs people's attentions. Gives them ideas of what things are in the RP. The same reason why Grand Vanguard needs a map of the Vanguard City. o.o; That reminds me..
3. He HAS meantioned his past experiences with many things. The only problem is, Vicki deleted his long speech. So you can't say that.


1. Do we know that? Does anyone else besides you and Leowen know that? No. I was just responding to him saying that thing about nice people and governors.

2. It really wouldn't help that much. It would help them know what it looks like, but not improve it.

3. I meant you, not Leowen.


1. Have I not said that he WILL BE posting his info? See, like I said in the chat, you're not listening.

2. Must I have a poll about this?

3. Well, like number 5 of the previous one, you weren't there. Should you drop this or not, it's your choice.

Locke Trufeld
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TheDDRRhyno

PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 2:40 pm


Locke Trufeld
TheDDRRhyno
Locke Trufeld
I only backed him up because he was being pushed with lies. Do you think I, the SwordNamed Truth, would allow that? If you or Dark were to be in the same position, I would've done the same for you. Don't call me a hypocrite. I still haven't voted for anyone.

And sure, he hasn't made his character.. in the Vanguardian Axis. He lets me in on some stuff in IM, and I suggested him to post his info here. I'm sure he's working on it. He has told me how his new character, Alexander will be, with brief details, and enough ways for it to make sense.

And wouldn't the same apply for Rico? How would you know he'll be a nice person? Just because of 6 years of experience with him? Right now, he's not very nice to me, just because I wouldn't give him mod powers.

Now, aside from all these experience, I've had a very deep experience in Leadership itself, as you may know in a group called UPF, which consisted of over 200 people at one point. If you're saying I'm not making a very educated guess, then once again, that's the same as you insulting my judgement as the successful leader that I was in UPF. I say this for the good of the community, and I'm not picking sides. I'm only drawing out the Pros and Cons of the candidates. That's all.


1. Kaz, your sword means nothing. Also, elaborate. What lies was he being pushed of? Vicki's opinion?

2. I called you a hypocrite because you told me you weren't going to side for anyone. You even said yourself that this election means nothing to you. Then why didn't you just let the candidates and anyone else who actually CARED about it to handle it?

3. You have nothing. No one in this RP besides you and Leowen know anything about his character. Even if he is going to be nice, would you vote for someone who you have NO CLUE about? No? I didn't think so.

4. I'm not being polite to you because you're being an a*****e. To me and to Vicki. And I'm not mad at you for not making me crew. I knew you were going to reject.

5. I wasn't around in your UPF days so I'm going to leave that alone.

6. Candidates? Um, don't you mean candidate? And don't mention me. You haven't said any pros about me, and Darkend hasn't been brought up since her speech.


1. You've been with me for 6 years. How could you not know the SwordNamed Truth? And Vicki said that he will be bossy, when Leowen says that he'll be using a different character, that is unlike Leowen Dravon in the RP.

2. Because it's not fair. Vicki deletes his speech, tells lies about him, and you think the SwordNamed Truth would be fine with it? I'm making it fair for everyone. That's all. It's not siding with anyone, since I'd do it for you if you were to be in the same position. And I did it because he talks to me more than anyone else, I believe. After all, I am the leader, and know how things work around here.

3. Look, I said he'll be putting it here soon. He's not even online right now, for Pete's sake! And I do have some clue about Alexander. Either way, I'm not voting anyway.

4. I'm being an a*****e? How would that be? I don't see how I'm being an a*****e to you two, unless you two were the ones that started with something instead.

5. That would be fine.

6. Like I said in number 2, I would say the Pros and Cons if they were meantioned in a negative way.


1. I know what the SwordNamed Truth is. I just don't give a damn about it. Vicki was just sharing her personal and out of character experience with Leowen, and with what she's been telling me, I'm not buying it.

2. She deleted his speech for retaliation. She told no lies about him. You're not making it fair. Chris spread propoganda of Leowen, therefore Vicki did the same for me. I was in the same position also, I even ASKED you to even things out. You didn't. Stop lying.

3. You said yourself, the election is almost over. He should've had that down when he posted his speech. It's too late.

4. Must I copy and paste what you have said to us?

6. I have no idea what you're talking about.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 2:43 pm


Locke Trufeld
TheDDRRhyno
Locke Trufeld
TheDDRRhyno
Partisus
If you vote for someone because that person is nice, that's just as bad a reason. Being nice and being a good governor are two VERY different things. Honestly, they aren't even always compatible. You can't run something effectively by being nice all the time. Also, Kaz said that the graphics were a plus, not the main reason to vote for him. Put things in perspective and consider what people are actually saying. Kaz was merely pointing out that Leowen has experience, and knows how to go about this.


Why hello there. Okay, I'm going to break down what you said into a response.

1. Would you like to have someone utterly vicious running the place where you live? Hmm, maybe not.
2. How would graphics be a plus in running something? Pretty pictures will not make Avantgarde better.
3. He mentioned nothing of his experience. You just contradicted yourself buddy. sad That's bad.


1. No one knows if he'l be utterly vicious or not. He told me that Alexander is the complete opposite of Leowen.
2. Yes it would. It grabs people's attentions. Gives them ideas of what things are in the RP. The same reason why Grand Vanguard needs a map of the Vanguard City. o.o; That reminds me..
3. He HAS meantioned his past experiences with many things. The only problem is, Vicki deleted his long speech. So you can't say that.


1. Do we know that? Does anyone else besides you and Leowen know that? No. I was just responding to him saying that thing about nice people and governors.

2. It really wouldn't help that much. It would help them know what it looks like, but not improve it.

3. I meant you, not Leowen.


1. Have I not said that he WILL BE posting his info? See, like I said in the chat, you're not listening.

2. Must I have a poll about this?

3. Well, like number 5 of the previous one, you weren't there. Should you drop this or not, it's your choice.


1. It's really too late for him to do that anymore. The election is halfway over.

2. No, because I'm telling you now, it will not make the RP tons better. Sure it will improve it a little and make it look a little nicer. But it won't help him run Avantgarde.

3. What the hell are you talking about?

TheDDRRhyno


Partisus

PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 2:43 pm


1. No. I said that voting for someone because the person is "nice" is a bad idea. Trying to please everyone just makes things worse, in general. A governor needs to know how to balance being "nice" and doing what is necessary, no matter what people think.

2. They would help give an idea of what is being referred to, so that people get the right idea, instead of everyone thinking that it is something different. Why do you think comics are so popular? Why do you think the pictures are on the main page of this very RP? They show you just what is going on. If we had no use for pictures, we wouldn't have eyes.

3. Oh, really?

Locke Trufeld
Well, also as a governor, I'd like to point out that Leowen seems promising with quite a lot of his experiences. I'm sure graphics would help make things more interesting in this RP. But that's just from what I see so far.

And.. as the SwordNamed Truth, I would like to point out that Leowen's character that will be the Governor is not going to be bossy, but the opposite, he has stated. So there's no worry of him being bossy when elected Governor. He wouldn't be like how Vicki said.


You see that one? Maybe you didn't see it because of the small font. I'll post it larger to make it easier to read.

Locke Trufeld
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