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lol. Made me laugh. I feel like I should maybe be reprimanded a little more often.

those bastards passed prop 8!!!!! scream scream

i think it's just wrong that they passed it. So what if gay people wanna get married? They should be allowed to do so. That whole teaching kids about it is probably just a myth. Have we become so morally uptight that we should just walk all over their right to get married and don't care if they a mouthful of dirt and blood? I'm just saying that they should revoke prop 8 and never bring it back into existence again.

If you're going to go the religious route about this:
The Bible only demands procreation. If a gay guy gives to s sperm bank, I'd like to think he's absolved. Also, the key element of the Bible seen throughout the book as opposed to just in a singular passage of implications would be the policy of "acceptance". Judging others and telling them how they have sinned is acting in place of God and therefore a far greater sin than that of allowing people happiness. Moreover, if you're already convinced they're going to burn in hell anyway then why make their lives on earth so miserable? I find it a far greater sin receiving gratification and glee from others' unhappiness. And like you said, you can't help your feelings for someone. If it were so great a sin would God have allowed it to happen?
Seriously. Moreover, THE BIBLE HAS NO PLACE IN POLITICS. America is a country that allows freedom of religion, so the bible shouldn't even be mentioned thus making your point moot, anyway.

((Are the quotes not showing up right for everyone else when names are left in there?))

I heartily agree with Krego, and should point out that unless I'm very much mistaken, he's religious.

I, on the other hand, am pretty much the opposite. I was raised a Christian, and the rest of my family still is (so don't tell me it's because of the way I was raised), but I came on my own to the conclusion that I do not believe to be a God. I'm not going to go into why here, as that's well outside what this particular discussion is about and as it's about beliefs, it's not really a point that can be argued.

However, the United States Constitution quite clearly states:


Which I believe any American should recognize as the first amendment. Now I'd like to point out that first phrase, as it deals more specifically with religion. A law banning same-sex marriage for religious reasons (and that's really the only reason anyone would want to ban it) would clearly interfere with my right to exercise my religion (or rather, my total lack thereof). It would also establish the three major religions (Judaism, Islam, and Christianity) as a basis for morality, which is also against the Constitution.

In short, I don't really give a damn about what your personal beliefs are. However, I don't think that anyone has a right to blatantly disregard the Constitution. (By the way, that's called felony.)

wow lol well listen here stupid...if you wanna marry a man go ahead i was only sharing my opinion....dont sit up here and call me an idiot and curse at me and s**t because you dont agree with what i say...its called debate which is what they do in politics... its obviously something you dont know how to do if you're sitting up here and calling me an idiot when you dont agree...its a political subject so we debate its not rocket science...and in church they dont push their religion on other folk...instead they try to spread the religion gently so that people do believe in God thats part of the reason of why we pray... i wasnt pushing my religion on other folk thats why i found the least offensive way to say it...i was sharing an opinion...and you should know that if you read my post right...i remember reading one of your posts that said "im ******** pissed" its ok if youre pissed and all but dont come over here and bring bullshit to my face because youre mad...debating doesnt involve name calling and cursing...and im being straight up with you...you cuss way too damn much like a little bad kid that needs a beating...every other word that comes out your mouth is a cuss word...that little "im a bad a**" game you try to play doesnt work... you sit up here and tell me to speak proper english but you cant go without cursing for 5 seconds...honestly cursing every minute is just as bad as improper english...but if you ever even plan on debated with me in the future you need to learn how to do it and stop being immature...i also remember you saying youre older than me... its just ridiculous that you constantly argue like a 6 year old so dont debate with me until your balls drop like a man because im not trying to have a conversation with someone as stupid and weak minded as yourself whos going to try to tell me weather im an idiot or not...youre definately not in the place to call me an idiot so get things straight...aaand when we made up to stop arguing in that pm...that was only so you could be crew again...we obviously havent made up yet with you cussing and throwing names at me and never will with your bad attitude...so if you wanna keep this going like you usually do go ahead because ill keep you in check like i did all the previous times we've argued... i have alot of stuff to pull out on you to make you look even more dumb than you already do waiting right here

i agree with Shelcombakasfire. I'm Catholic, but i believe that we've twisted the bible to our own purposes. We should accept gay people and not deny them their rights. Have we really become so bad that we've denied average humans their god-given rights? It's like saying we should just take all legal Mexicans and ship them off to Mexico. If we're going to deny the gays rights, we might as well deny others their rights, right? I know that someone is going to say that all their other rights are protected, but we should give them full rights. We shouldn't freak out over a little thing such as marriage. Like Shelcombakasfire said, they still are fulfilling their marriage commitment if they go to a sperm bank. Men will give the sperm and then the lesbians would use that sperm to give birth. Let's just accept them and treat them as equals.