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Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 3:05 pm
Serenity Reed "Edward can't read Bella's mind because she has no thoughts." Bahahahahaa!!! And yet so true...
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Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 8:27 pm
Oh, that comment about the fandom is so true.
My 13-year-old sister "will die if they don't make the New Moon movie."
Enough said.
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Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:00 am
My little sister said that as well.... she hasn't seen the first film or even read the books.
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Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 2:42 pm
Ah, the fandom... I've lost friends because of it, and gained bruises, all without even saying once that I hate Twilight.
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Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 6:00 am
I know this thread is dead, but I',m so sick and tired of all the Edward and Jasper and dkjfuiehrte fangirls at my school... -___-;
In my opinion the book is only good if you want to quickly rid your brain into some horribly written fan girl type of story dealing with the world's biggest Mary Sue. DX
I only read the first book, and thank you very much I would not like to read the others- But there is one book I find worse than Twilight... O_o; And I never knew I would find that possibility.
Did anyone post this link yet?
http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Twilight
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Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:47 pm
I used to love Twilight, but then I listened to my cousin's reasons for hating Twilight (after she read the first fifty pages or so).
Twilight is so fuel for a fire.
It's one of those 'once upon a time in a land far, far, far away' stories, where the princess in distress needs her knight in shining armor (literally, now that I think about it).
Bella is the princess for the following reasons:
1. She's an ordinary girl, but she's perfect at everything except her clumsiness. 2. Everyone loves her, but she's very modest about the attention. 3. All the girls are jealous, even Rose (I forgot how to spell her real name). 4. She falls in love with the knight on sight 5. Her name means 'beautiful swan' when she's a) apparently nothing special to look at and b) couldn't be elegant to save her life. 6. She has a habit of doing the most predictable thing. 7. She whines to Edward when she doesn't get what she wants. 8. Her relationship with Edward is based solely on looks.
Bella's really the only one I can't stand. I love how in the second book she's all depressed because her precious Eddie left her.
I completely forgot about Eclipse when I read it. I had to ask my friend and she nearly bit off my head for not knowing. Defensive much?
I also told that same girl that I "Jumped off the Twilight train." Yeah, cause that's what it is at our school: a long line of fangirls who love and adore Twilight and won't listen to reason. I almost got slapped for that one.
However, when I said that I "jumped off the Twilight train" to one of my guyfriends, he thought I was being literal. He thought I'd actually jumped off a train. XD
Okay, I'm done.
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Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 1:07 pm
Okay, so....I actually like Twilight. Definitely have a positive opinion of it. i've read it like eight times.
As for why? Well, I just go with gut instinct on a book--I can forgive everything except boringness and ambiguity. If it keeps me absorbed, it wins. I'm not saying my opinion of it is professional--hell, i read children's books, and I hate most classics. But I do read a LOT.
the thing about Twilight is, you can't compare it to all the books out there at the same time. It's POP FICTION. Like Harry Potter, Gossip Girl, and Eragon. Think about how they get to be popular. Harry Potter because it appealed to younger children and had brilliant ways of combining all these different myths and legends, for example. And Twilight because everyone was clearly craving a good romance and it's simple and clearly written and is a good spin on an old legend. THIS IS WHY PEOPLE THAT NEVER READ WILL READ TWILIGHT. It's not HARD to read, or HARD to like. I bet everyone here has a favorite book that is probably impossible for some imbeciles to UNDERSTAND, let alone actually LIKE. And that's great. We're all smart and literate. but Twilight was not written for us.
Actually it wasn't written for anybody--it was written for HERSELF. Keep that in mind. And it might have been utter brilliance before her editor got a hold of it. You don't know that part, you can't. Just think about if someone was saying all this about YOUR book. Hello??? it's yours! not theirs! You really have to respect someone who wrote that much and stuck through it and got it published, even though it must have been hard sometimes.
Like I said before, Twilight is not directed at people like us. It is meant to be clean-cut, use simple diction, and never address super-obscure or -difficult issues. Okay, romance, love. Everyone likes that. So it's directed at the portion of "everyone" that enjoys simpler writing. Like I said, I read children's fiction, where they only use about two hundred words max per book. I enjoy them. They're absorbing and simple and lots of fun. You can do a lot more when you aren't worried about sounding good. Whenever you try to force yourself to use a different tone, it makes everything much harder. Stephanie is probably really like that: she's a clean-cut, clear-thinking person, so that's how she writes. Okay. That's easy enough to accept.
As for the characters? They ARE real people, and she did her best to make them seem so, though I will agree that she could have done better. But maybe she's one of those people that thinks that a person is defined mainly by their past--which is why she gives lots of backstory on people. But I do wish she would try doing what the movie people did--like when they showed Bella and Edward just sitting in the tree talking. They didn't really feel like BEST FRIENDS in the book, you know? And that made me sad. Their poor relationship. But one must assume that they did this later on. After all, everyone has a different vision of what love should be....
I'd like it if Edward weren't so perfect; if he had other flaws besides his temper. I'd like it if he got whiny and boring and NORMAL sometimes. And had more of a sense of humor. Okay. Cool. He's not perfectly written; he really does seem perfect most of the time. All of his family is "perfect", and that annoys people--but like she said, they have to attract their prey, and their prey are humans. Sometimes, in order to enjoy a story, you just gotta swallow some stuff and move on. Rainbow sparklies? Okay. Bella's clumsy? okay.
And...Bella. She TALKS mostly like a normal person. She's really weird...and she can be kind of a b***h. But as writers, let's look at it this way. Who is this story about? a couple, man and woman, vampire and human. Is Stephanie male? No. Is Stephanie human? Yes. So from whose viewpoint is she gonna write it from? That's right, Bella's. It was her first novel, so of course Bella is gonna be like her--in my first novel, the character was named after me and had my dream life. And it was actually pretty good--as was Twilight. That's fine, it happens, it's okay. Bella, if you've read the site or whatever that was, is what she wanted to name her daughter. And she tried to make Bella non-perfect with the clumsiness and self-deprecation--it takes a few tries to get that right. You gotta remember, it was her first novel. Everyone's first novel is like that. I'm sorry, but it is.
Also, people whine about her whining in new moon? THEIR RELATIONSHIP IS REAL. Maybe it's not very deep, but people really do love other people like that. It's absurd to others, maybe, but it's REAL. I was in love with someone in just that way, and I'd STILL walk through fire--LITERALLY--for him, even though he hasn't spoken to me in months. There is real love like that. Edward and Bella, whatever anyone says, were definitely in love. Maybe not soulmates, but in love.
Twilight was not a BAD book--it was just simple and not quite accurate to real life. But it was much better than a lot of the other trash out there, and it got people who NEVER read to start reading. When you're reading a book, this s**t shouldn't matter. Just pretend it isn't set in our world, so if something weird comes up, you can just be like, oh, okay, and shrug it off. that's what you have to do to ENJOY reading. Cause that's, you know, the POINT.
In conclusion: avid fandom is really annoying, but if there is anything more annoying than OMG EDWARD IS SO HOT SQUEE! it is OMG TWILIGHT SUCKS STEPHANIE MEYER CAN'T WRITE THINK FOR YOURSELF YOU SHEEP. Like that Soul Kit chick *coughwhoImadequitcough*; see? annoying.
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