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 Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:05 pm
Ace Paladin
I'm confused.
Will we still be able to access the PSN store, but have to pay to play online (i.e. 360)?
we will not have to pay for online, the only thing the psn cards do is so you can buy things off the store without a credit card, they come in $20 and $50
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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:25 pm
GOD_OF_DEATH_RYUK Ace Paladin
I'm confused.
Will we still be able to access the PSN store, but have to pay to play online (i.e. 360)?
we will not have to pay for online, the only thing the psn cards do is so you can buy things off the store without a credit card, they come in $20 and $50 @ Ace: This is technically just a rumor about Sony charging for their online service, brought on through a discussion of when the PSN cards are "truly" going onto the market.
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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:44 pm
Chill, y'all.
Rumors.
Sure, Sony's losing money, but when did that stop them in the past?
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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:31 pm
Mr Jawes Drinky McIrish Mr Jawes GOD_OF_DEATH_RYUK we already have psn cards where i live Shenanigans? I'd believe you if I could find a listing on eBay or Amazon. I know plenty of people who would buy those like crack. EDIT @ Drinky: I said massive grain of salt, but this is a rumor, and it's not like it's coming from some completely unreliable source. Our DMs/SMs get the lowdown on stuff before a lot of people in retail so that they HAVE the info. I don't know if I trust my DM 100%, but his confidence on the matter is frightening. My issue is that sources like Kotaku, Joystiq, IGN, Gamestop and others have not even made any kind of acknowledgment towards this rumor. Credible, reliable, and widely recognized sources. The folk who posted on the 60GB PS3 price drop long before Sony even hinted at it. Why would Sony allow this kind of information to leak to a ******** Gamestop GM? Despite what you might think, It's not imperatively important for retailers to get "inside information". It's just how people like Gamestop want to advertise themselves, they pull in business because they are supposedly THE Gaming authority. It's just like how Best Buy advertises their Geek Squad to be able to fix ******** everything. So come on dude, you should know this better than anyone. Every year, every single store manager in the country is sent to "Conference", which is basically an E3/TGS for Gamestop managers to know the ins and outs of the gaming industry, including hands-on demos of all the holiday crap coming out. I don't want to sound like the bigheaded jerk, but Gamestop IS a gaming authority because corporate make them that way. Gamestop is a lame gaming authority, the raw majority of their staff are not only ill-informed, but downright stupid. Yes, I'm aware of these conferences, been to one similar for Best Buy, let me tell you, they never tell me or any one else anything that isn't already known.
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Drinky McIrish Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:17 pm
Mr Jawes GOD_OF_DEATH_RYUK Ace Paladin
I'm confused.
Will we still be able to access the PSN store, but have to pay to play online (i.e. 360)?
we will not have to pay for online, the only thing the psn cards do is so you can buy things off the store without a credit card, they come in $20 and $50 @ Ace: This is technically just a rumor about Sony charging for their online service, brought on through a discussion of when the PSN cards are "truly" going onto the market. yeah with the cards being only in select places, i think of it as a sort of "beta" testing for the cards, i just bought a $20 one today i bought pixeljunk eden and a few rock band songs, i'll get a pic up as soon as possible
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:55 pm
Is this really worth discussing? The only way Sony would start charging for online multiplayer is if they'd succeeded in running Microsoft out of the console war. Which they're not even close to doing right now. Businesses like Sony don't become that successful by eliminating the biggest selling points of their products.
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:12 pm
Arvis_Jaggamar Is this really worth discussing? The only way Sony would start charging for online multiplayer is if they'd succeeded in running Microsoft out of the console war. Which they're not even close to doing right now. Businesses like Sony don't become that successful by eliminating the biggest selling points of their products. Factor you are not taking into account... PS3 = MAJOR LOSSES It was shipped below profit so that Sony could win the format war. IF Sony can offer something to compete with Live, it would mean profit for Sony, balancing out the costs of having the PS3 on the market. And just to keep this out there, don't assume that your favorite gaming companies would choose to please customers before making money. If they didn't want to make money off off video games, they wouldn't have gaming divisions/exist.
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:26 pm
Mr Jawes Arvis_Jaggamar Is this really worth discussing? The only way Sony would start charging for online multiplayer is if they'd succeeded in running Microsoft out of the console war. Which they're not even close to doing right now. Businesses like Sony don't become that successful by eliminating the biggest selling points of their products. Factor you are not taking into account... PS3 = MAJOR LOSSES It was shipped below profit so that Sony could win the format war. IF Sony can offer something to compete with Live, it would mean profit for Sony, balancing out the costs of having the PS3 on the market. And just to keep this out there, don't assume that your favorite gaming companies would choose to please customers before making money. If they didn't want to make money off off video games, they wouldn't have gaming divisions/exist. Factor you are not taking into account... Charging for online = MAJOR DROP IN HARDWARE SALES = less money for Sony. I for one will never pay for online multiplayer in a MILLION years. And I'm not the only one.
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:33 pm
Arvis_Jaggamar Mr Jawes Arvis_Jaggamar Is this really worth discussing? The only way Sony would start charging for online multiplayer is if they'd succeeded in running Microsoft out of the console war. Which they're not even close to doing right now. Businesses like Sony don't become that successful by eliminating the biggest selling points of their products. Factor you are not taking into account... PS3 = MAJOR LOSSES It was shipped below profit so that Sony could win the format war. IF Sony can offer something to compete with Live, it would mean profit for Sony, balancing out the costs of having the PS3 on the market. And just to keep this out there, don't assume that your favorite gaming companies would choose to please customers before making money. If they didn't want to make money off off video games, they wouldn't have gaming divisions/exist. Factor you are not taking into account... Charging for online = MAJOR DROP IN HARDWARE SALES = less money for Sony. I for one will never pay for online multiplayer in a MILLION years. And I'm not the only one. I suggested a premium service. Not sure if you guys are on board with this idea.
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:37 pm
l -Xera- l The Dark Arvis_Jaggamar Mr Jawes Arvis_Jaggamar Is this really worth discussing? The only way Sony would start charging for online multiplayer is if they'd succeeded in running Microsoft out of the console war. Which they're not even close to doing right now. Businesses like Sony don't become that successful by eliminating the biggest selling points of their products. Factor you are not taking into account... PS3 = MAJOR LOSSES It was shipped below profit so that Sony could win the format war. IF Sony can offer something to compete with Live, it would mean profit for Sony, balancing out the costs of having the PS3 on the market. And just to keep this out there, don't assume that your favorite gaming companies would choose to please customers before making money. If they didn't want to make money off off video games, they wouldn't have gaming divisions/exist. Factor you are not taking into account... Charging for online = MAJOR DROP IN HARDWARE SALES = less money for Sony. I for one will never pay for online multiplayer in a MILLION years. And I'm not the only one. I suggested a premium service. Not sure if you guys are on board with this idea. No. "The fun's always free."
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:38 pm
Arvis_Jaggamar l -Xera- l The Dark Arvis_Jaggamar Mr Jawes Arvis_Jaggamar Is this really worth discussing? The only way Sony would start charging for online multiplayer is if they'd succeeded in running Microsoft out of the console war. Which they're not even close to doing right now. Businesses like Sony don't become that successful by eliminating the biggest selling points of their products. Factor you are not taking into account... PS3 = MAJOR LOSSES It was shipped below profit so that Sony could win the format war. IF Sony can offer something to compete with Live, it would mean profit for Sony, balancing out the costs of having the PS3 on the market. And just to keep this out there, don't assume that your favorite gaming companies would choose to please customers before making money. If they didn't want to make money off off video games, they wouldn't have gaming divisions/exist. Factor you are not taking into account... Charging for online = MAJOR DROP IN HARDWARE SALES = less money for Sony. I for one will never pay for online multiplayer in a MILLION years. And I'm not the only one. I suggested a premium service. Not sure if you guys are on board with this idea. No. "The fun's always free." The premium would be like...just extras. There would be two types of services of the PSN. You could charge $5 for the premium service.
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:45 pm
l -Xera- l The Dark Arvis_Jaggamar l -Xera- l The Dark Arvis_Jaggamar Mr Jawes Arvis_Jaggamar Is this really worth discussing? The only way Sony would start charging for online multiplayer is if they'd succeeded in running Microsoft out of the console war. Which they're not even close to doing right now. Businesses like Sony don't become that successful by eliminating the biggest selling points of their products. Factor you are not taking into account... PS3 = MAJOR LOSSES It was shipped below profit so that Sony could win the format war. IF Sony can offer something to compete with Live, it would mean profit for Sony, balancing out the costs of having the PS3 on the market. And just to keep this out there, don't assume that your favorite gaming companies would choose to please customers before making money. If they didn't want to make money off off video games, they wouldn't have gaming divisions/exist. Factor you are not taking into account... Charging for online = MAJOR DROP IN HARDWARE SALES = less money for Sony. I for one will never pay for online multiplayer in a MILLION years. And I'm not the only one. I suggested a premium service. Not sure if you guys are on board with this idea. No. "The fun's always free." The premium would be like...just extras. There would be two types of services of the PSN. You could charge $5 for the premium service. No. They charge enough for things as it is. And especially with companies like EA and Konami charging money for stupid crap like Codec Packs and Fantasy Football stat tracking, there's plenty of fleecing online to go around.
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:52 pm
Arvis_Jaggamar Mr Jawes Arvis_Jaggamar Is this really worth discussing? The only way Sony would start charging for online multiplayer is if they'd succeeded in running Microsoft out of the console war. Which they're not even close to doing right now. Businesses like Sony don't become that successful by eliminating the biggest selling points of their products. Factor you are not taking into account... PS3 = MAJOR LOSSES It was shipped below profit so that Sony could win the format war. IF Sony can offer something to compete with Live, it would mean profit for Sony, balancing out the costs of having the PS3 on the market. And just to keep this out there, don't assume that your favorite gaming companies would choose to please customers before making money. If they didn't want to make money off off video games, they wouldn't have gaming divisions/exist. Factor you are not taking into account... Charging for online = MAJOR DROP IN HARDWARE SALES = less money for Sony. I for one will never pay for online multiplayer in a MILLION years. And I'm not the only one. Actually, that is taken into account. Sony would only be following Microsoft, who has proven that people are willing to pay $50 a year to pay for games, and if Sony OFFERS MORE than what they have now, they WILL still make money. On top of that, Microsoft can allow the little people to have online games by providing general servers. While games are still P2P, you HAVE to have a server to manage and connect systems (or else do it manually, so tell me how that works out). If Sony could offer the same, it would be another plus for people developing games for the PS3. @Xera: still, what could Sony offer for a premium account?
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:03 pm
Old article...still... Ahem.POSSIBLE.
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:12 pm
Hey guys. I want to clarify something. I posted this because this marks a POSSIBILITY that Sony will charge for PSN. It seems that most of the people who think that I'm retarded right now and trying to discredit this claim are missing the point that this IS just a rumor, but completely possible.
The future is wild, but Sony is a company with a gaming division. They destroyed HD DVD by making the PS3 a Blu-Ray player (while nabbing the best movie makers), but this made the PS3 EXPENSIVE when they COULD have shorted the player and made something cheaper than the 360 while offering the same service. I'm not saying that Sony made a bad choice, but they definitely took a hit in their gaming division to win the format war, and charging for stuff (happy fans or not) is better than taking a complete loss is they can make up for it with features to justify the cost.
They may only charge for Home.
They may only charge for a few games (with far superior online play).
They may offer a premium service with [insert offers here].
They may not charge anything for online play.
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