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 Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 9:18 am
Spuntino, your description of the Hot-Topic-fakuchan sounded like me in my Ita-Loli days. Now I'm a shoddily-sewn Lolita, BUT HEY, I'm doing it right now!
Anyway, OH OH OH. MUST MAKE NEW THREAD.
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:13 pm
spuntino Miko_meido spuntino Lolita Couture has nothing to do with Japanese Lolita. o_O
Whoever tried to tell you that that is what they market at is smoking something super powerful.
They're using the western, "original" version of the term to refer to making oneself feel younger and sexier when you wear their clothes. The clothing they put out are for clubs; they're not trying to deal with the Japanese lolita fashion, at all. As for the second photo, she's probably emulating Kana or a similar VK aesthetic rather than straight [or even ero] lolita. Not all Japanese street snaps are meant to be lolita.
she never said it did... she was showing examples of fake Lolita fashion.
There's no reason to post them as examples, since they're not the same as what the original post was commenting on. The original post was about people wearing the Japanese street fashion improperly--neither of those photos relates to the lolita fashion. Lolita Couture is a brand geared towards club-going teens and young women. The second photo is a cosplayer. Neither is an example of "poser" or "scene" lolita at all. At least, not as I interpreted the original post.
From what the originating post said, I rather assumed she meant the sort of "poser" lolita one would see at a convention with cat ears and furry leg warmers, or walking out of Hot Topic in a corset, thigh-highs, miniskirt and warm warmers. Someone who was actually trying to wear the Japanese street fashion and doing it "wrong", rather than someone using the word improperly.
bah. It's all objective isn't it? I'm pretty sure the second one is not cosplay.
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 5:04 pm
Toshiya cosplay is Toshiya cosplay.
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Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 11:51 am
 sickle_bloodless i believe she means This :  (some chick on myspace) & (idk... It's be lolita if she was wearing a skirt or shorts to her mid thigh. It's missing a bottom =__= ;; hmmm...the first one actually looks like one of Janice Dickinson's models, no? what's her name...tracy or something like that? lol and anywho, the second could be erololi, i suppose...or just a random fetish fashion of japan, or cosplay, ya know? i don't think there is anything "fake" about it.
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:07 am
It's some chick cosplaying as Toshiya's Ice Princess look. Toshiya is a MALE bassist from the popular band Dir en grey. So it's NOT Ero style, it's NOT trying to be Lolita, it's NOT Fake, it's NOT Ita.
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:17 pm
sickle_bloodless spuntino Miko_meido spuntino Lolita Couture has nothing to do with Japanese Lolita. o_O
Whoever tried to tell you that that is what they market at is smoking something super powerful.
They're using the western, "original" version of the term to refer to making oneself feel younger and sexier when you wear their clothes. The clothing they put out are for clubs; they're not trying to deal with the Japanese lolita fashion, at all. As for the second photo, she's probably emulating Kana or a similar VK aesthetic rather than straight [or even ero] lolita. Not all Japanese street snaps are meant to be lolita.
she never said it did... she was showing examples of fake Lolita fashion.
There's no reason to post them as examples, since they're not the same as what the original post was commenting on. The original post was about people wearing the Japanese street fashion improperly--neither of those photos relates to the lolita fashion. Lolita Couture is a brand geared towards club-going teens and young women. The second photo is a cosplayer. Neither is an example of "poser" or "scene" lolita at all. At least, not as I interpreted the original post.
From what the originating post said, I rather assumed she meant the sort of "poser" lolita one would see at a convention with cat ears and furry leg warmers, or walking out of Hot Topic in a corset, thigh-highs, miniskirt and warm warmers. Someone who was actually trying to wear the Japanese street fashion and doing it "wrong", rather than someone using the word improperly.
bah. It's all objective isn't it? I'm pretty sure the second one is not cosplay.
So yeah. It's cosplay.
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 9:26 am
I wish they didn't use the term lolita for the couture site. u__u It just causes more confusion. I always have a hard time describing lolita to people, oh well people will do what they want. xP
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