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 Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:10 pm
BlackShadowmon I appreciate the Dragon's Lair Guild offering to take a few of the species and place them in their Guild, but I really don't think that's the best option. I just know that we'd see a lot of people complaining/asking about why their eggs aren't with everyone else's. (We get enough people that don't read the rules, even though they're at the top of the first page.) And even if people did understand what was going on, I doubt they'd care to go to two guilds just to get their eggs grown. We have enough people posting eggs for their friends that don't join for whatever reason, and I think it will only get worse if we ask that they go to two guilds rather than one. Another thing against it is that it doesn't really help the mods as far as work goes. Making a PM to one of the Dragon's Lair Guild mods every time someone posts an egg that goes to that guild will be rather bothersome and will get annoying real fast I think. I stand by my suggestion of having more than one sanctuary. I should note that as a mod, it is annoying to have to stop editing the post with most of the dragons and switch to the other post that has 1-2 species of dragons that didn't fit into the other post, which is why I prefer two sanctuaries rather than just use all 10 posts of the first page of a topic. And Dranzer, we've been needing mods for a long time anyway, Loku just (again) hasn't gotten around to it. -cough- We might need to choose for him if we get desperate. How about you guys take the splits as well? They are the tallest hatchling sprites.
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:11 pm
One person PMed me with an idea of having two sanctuaries that were seperated by alphabetical order.
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:11 pm
I like Loku's idea of creating a new, bigger Egg Sanctuary-- but I also agree that one Sanctuary may not work anymore. What I don't like is limiting the number of dragons per person, for selfish reasons-- I like picking up eggs with very little time left, but if I already have the limit of eggs/hatchlings, would there be some way of replacing one of them with plenty of time with one of them with a more dire situation? If there would, it seems like it would be a lot more work for the mods.
If there are multiple egg sanctuaries, I would suggest making just two rather than splitting them up by mod-- that way there could be two mod teams, which would mean that there wouldn't be a problem if one of the mods had an internet problem or just needed a break. I ran my own pseudo-Sanctuary for friends, and I know I needed a break after a while of being the only one adding/removing eggs!
Whatever happens, whether there be multiple sanctuaries or only one, I DO like the idea of giving more post space to the dragons. Give room to grow, even if it seems unnecessary. That way's more welcoming to new people. And if there are multiple Sanctuaries, definitely split them by breed-- I remember there was a suggestion a while back about eggs vs. hatchlings, but that's a lot more work for the mods.
Happier, less overworked mods means happier guild members! I hope you guys manage to come to an agreement over what to do that makes things easiest for all of you. heart And thank you for all you've done so far!
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:43 pm
I like the idea for multiple sanctuaries split by breed for a long-term solution, but I really think what is needed is more enforcement of the rules already in place. The sanctuary asks that people only post two to three eggs, yet I've seen up to five added for just one person. If the sanctuary was shut down, it would punish those plus people like me who have never had more than two eggs on the sanctuary at once.
For now, I'm going to go check the eggs and see if there are any that have under 3.5 days left. I'll take them on a walk and see if I can't get them grown up so there is more room. A master list of "Egg Walkers" might also improve things slightly. I know I'm already watching four scrolls and one egg plus my own and it's not terribly hard. I could still take on a few more scrolls and a whole lot more eggs. But anyway, I'd be willing to volunteer to assist in any way possible.
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BlackShadowmon Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:04 pm
JinxDragonwings I like the idea for multiple sanctuaries split by breed for a long-term solution, but I really think what is needed is more enforcement of the rules already in place. The sanctuary asks that people only post two to three eggs, yet I've seen up to five added for just one person. If the sanctuary was shut down, it would punish those plus people like me who have never had more than two eggs on the sanctuary at once. And just how are we going to enforce it? Sure, we could only add 2-3 out of however many they put in a post, but what's to stop them from posting 2-3 of them one day and posting the rest the next day? We get so many people posting eggs that there's no way we can recognize who just posted eggs and who didn't.
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:06 pm
we could have one thread with a different breed in each post
or have multiple sanctuaries with a 5 breeds in each one
but its really what would work best in the long run i guess whee sweatdrop
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:11 pm
BlackShadowmon And just how are we going to enforce it? Sure, we could only add 2-3 out of however many they put in a post, but what's to stop them from posting 2-3 of them one day and posting the rest the next day? We get so many people posting eggs that there's no way we can recognize who just posted eggs and who didn't. True. I didn't think of that. I still wish there was a way to enforce that rule somehow since it would help keep the numbers down. Sorry if I stepped on any toes with that one. -.-;
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:23 pm
How about if you add eggs, you have to wait two weeks to add any more to the sanctuary and have one egg post per member?
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BlackShadowmon Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:36 pm
Dranzer_shadow_wanderer How about if you add eggs, you have to wait two weeks to add any more to the sanctuary and have one egg post per member? Again, no real way of enforcing it. Just because someone has a post in that topic doesn't mean they're not going to make another one later. And because we have so many members here, chances are they'll get away with it too. Even if they don't do that and just edit their posts with new eggs, how are we going to tell when they did it? How will we tell if we added the eggs or not at all? If we just have them edit their post, they could do that over and over and we would never really know if we had added their eggs or not, nor would we know when they updated the post.
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:40 pm
I like the idea of separating the sanctuary into as many as are needed, as well as keeping the current one closed 2 weeks to let all the already posted eggs within mature.
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:52 pm
I like PokeFan's idea of having each member (who uses the Sanctuary) have their own post just for their eggs.
Then it would fall on the members to actually watch their own eggs, and update their post themselves.
And there are some problems with that too, like people posting multiple times... But eh.
In that case, I think I like the multiple sanctuaries idea that's been going around.
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:14 pm
I have really liked the fact that at the sanctuary, all the eggs were up front and were guaranteed views, whether folks clicked or not.
I've also found that if I put the clickable egg in my post, rather than a description (i.e. picture v. "stone"), my egg sometimes hatches before it gets added, just from the views.
What if you guys made a rule that eggs had to have 4 days or less to be added? Would that help cut down on the volume?
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pokemonfan13 Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:43 pm
My main problem with having the eggs in more than one post/thread is it leaves practically unlimited expansion, making clicks from the sanctuary even less likely than they are now. People just aren't going to click 4 posts full of eggs, it's too many.
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:16 pm
Quote: Blackshadowmon's: I really do think we need a second sanctuary. Using the 10 posts on a new one is fine and all, but as the sanctuary gets more and more eggs/hatchlings, and as more dragons are added, it is going to put an increasingly bigger strain on the server every time someone loads the page. We might have a fast server now, but who knows how much it can take when we have hundreds of members viewing a page with even more hundreds of images? I'd rather not put too much strain on the server if we can avoid it, and I think splitting the sanctuary up is a good way for that. I suggest we have 2 sanctuaries. To prevent people from posting their eggs/hatchlings in both sanctuaries, I recommend we put only certain breeds of dragons in each sanctuary. It might be troublesome for the users to have to go to both sanctuaries when they get new eggs, but I think it's best in the long run. This way makes it easier to add a third sanctuary if we need it. Sooner or later, the new dragons that have been sitting in the Requests forum are going to be added, and I can only imagine a boost in our work from that. It would be convenient to add a third sanctuary to allow the new dragons. It would also be good for mods. Each mod could be assigned a sanctuary, and that would make things easier. For the mods that aren't assigned a sanctuary, they could be "floaters," who would check all the sanctuaries and cover for the assigned mods if there is a particularly large amount of updating to be done, or if the assigned mods can't update for whatever reason, etc.
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:07 pm
*cough* I assume whoever mentioned the five eggs was referring to me and my recent egg-splosion from breeding... That was an accident on my part. ^^; Back on topic though, I'm in favour of one new sanctuary. Have staff claim the entire front page without deleting posts; that's 15 posts and plenty of space for eggs for the next long while. This is important because having all the sanc eggs on the front page was a major part of how everyone got their views. Whenever anyone clicked the sanctuary thread (unless going directly to a different page), each person would give all the eggs a view if they let the page load fully. With more than one thread, that is lost. One disadvantage of this of course is that it makes the page extremely image-heavy, but wasn't that kind of the point of the sanctuary? To give everyone's eggs a hand?
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