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 Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 4:05 am
Riinjii I was VERY happy it was Kataang! I wanted Mai to be with Zukko. They are such a cute emo couple 3nodding I knew it would be Katara and Aang when the fortune teller said Katara would marry a "Great Bender" I know Zukko is a great bender but who is better than Aang??? SO HAPPY heart "the closer you get to light...
Xd I agree with you
mai x zuko = best emo couple heart
...the greater your shadow becomes"
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:37 pm
Why Zutara? Because its more fun, of course! But yes, OF COURSE it started [for most people] during "The Waterbending Scroll." Duh. Who wouldn't find that sexy? For me, I just watched the marathon a few years ago, got one scene of Zuko, and then another scene of Katara, and thought, "Well, I know who I'M rooting for." Kataang just.... sickens me. It looks wrong. It FEELS wrong. Katara acted like Aang's MOM for 90% of the series! And then its all, "OH BBY, YOU'RE MY DREAMGRL!" um, wtf? Katara's what.... 14? 15, maybe? That would put her in her Freshmen year in high school. Now Aang's 12, right? That would put him in 7th grade. Ew. Now, I'm not so much against who Zuko went with in the end. If Mai could find it in her heart to "Not hate the world" so much, I think they could make a great couple. The ages are right, and Mai is the ideal Fire Lady (so is she now, like, First Girlfriend or something? Fire Girl?). Now, I know that you're all going to disagree with this (ex. "HEY! I SUPPORT THAT AND I'M 20!) but I think FOR THE MAJORITY OF AVATAR WATCHERS (the little middle schoolers/elementary schoolers who are not active on Gaia), but I think Kataang and Maiko are more popular with the younger crowd, and Zutara is more popular with the older crowd. Think about it. Kataangers tend to be more immature and more inclined to only go with what's canon. (example: See any Kataang gloating around here?) Zutarians were able to look beyond what was there and come up with their own opinions. Now, that doesn't mean we didn't see Kataang coming. Before you start shouting "BUT IT WAS OBVIOUS R U STOOPID!!!", we all saw it coming. Yeahduh. But at least WE accepted the inevidable and were able to enjoy our ship. Show me some quality Kataang fics. Something that can rival Fandomme's Stormbenders or Irrel's AU. I'm not saying it's not out there, but... Thats my argument. If you have issues with it, well, tough. Thats my (and most of the Zutarian empire)'s mentality. And we aren't going away.
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:33 pm
Like I said in a previous post: Zutara seems the more "natural" choice. They're closer to each others PHYSICAL age and they are also closer to each others physical characteristics.
My question is this: Why does it always HAVE to be the more obvious choice?
When little girls play with their dolls, they match couples like this:
* Boys and girls generally are of the same "perceived race".
* The boy is always taller than the girl.
* The members of the couples share certain traits, generally hair color and the like.
In reality, couples do not fall into nice, neat little groups like that and I find it offensive that anyone would insist on it being that way. I am by NO means stating that all Zutara shippers are this way, but when you are over-insistant on the couple for the reasons that they look like they belong together, you are doing the same grouping and pairing that those little girls do with their dolls.
Why KatAang?
Because it was destiny! He was stuck in an iceberg for 100 years for the sole purpose, IMHO, to meet his soul mate, Katara.
About the age thing - Katara was 14 at the start of the series and even though Aang's physical age was 12, being the Avatar, he had a wisdom beyond his years. And in the end, that two year gap won't make much difference at all. Think about it, when she's 32 and he's 30, who is going to care?
Admittedly, Katara is motherly. But this is a core personality trait of hers. She is protective and motherly to ALL of the main characters. If you think that it's wrong that a person might end up in a romantic relationship with someone who might treat them in a somewhat motherly/fatherly way then I'm afraid that you might not know as much about relationships as you think you do. People are often drawn to a mate who reminds them of a parent they might be close to. That's why men will often marry a woman who reminds him in some small way of his mother.
It is rude to assume that all (or even most!) shippers are of a certain age range. My fiance and I are KatAang shippers (we are both adults!) and my 8 year old daughter was all for Zutara. (You should have seen her face at that last kiss!)
I think it's important for people to realize that love comes in all shapes and sizes. Eric and I are a nontraditional couple. He is almost 31 and is 5'4 and of average size and I am 29 and just shy of 6 feet tall and I'm a pretty big girl. The height difference between us is such that he will often stand on his tip-toes to kiss me. You might think that's odd, but I think it's cute. Let's live and let live, shall we? 3nodding
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:19 am
Me! Me! Me! I L heart VE Kataang!!!
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:48 am
Oh dear. WALL OF TEXT. And I'm doing the annoying quote-the-post thing that feels like an attack, aren't I? D: Keep in mind that I'm not trying to do that, just make my points more clear. I don't have anything against Zutara, just some of the attitudes of its fandom. I've even written Zutara fics. xD ZeDancingFlame Kataang just.... sickens me. It looks wrong. It FEELS wrong. Katara acted like Aang's MOM for 90% of the series! And then its all, "OH BBY, YOU'RE MY DREAMGRL!" um, wtf?
I didn't see it like that. To me, it seemed to grow as the series went on. Aang always seemed to have a thing for Katara, but she totally didn't get it for a long time. She was like his surrogate mother in her opinion. Then she slowly began to realize how much he was maturing, adding a fun little awkwardness to the mix. To her, he had always represented an escape, a passage to new worlds and old legends. Then she became stronger, a part of the legend. She began to understand Aang as a person and not as just a boy who happens to be the Avatar. Add in everything Kasumi said so perfectly about characterization, destiny, and motherly traits and you're got yourself some Kataang.
Maybe not your type of romance, but it sounds pretty decent to me.ZeDancingFlame Katara's what.... 14? 15, maybe? That would put her in her Freshmen year in high school. Now Aang's 12, right? That would put him in 7th grade. Ew. ZeDancingFlame Now, I know that you're all going to disagree with this (ex. "HEY! I SUPPORT THAT AND I'M 20!) but I think FOR THE MAJORITY OF AVATAR WATCHERS (the little middle schoolers/elementary schoolers who are not active on Gaia), but I think Kataang and Maiko are more popular with the younger crowd, and Zutara is more popular with the older crowd.
ZeDancingFlame Think about it. Kataangers tend to be more immature and more inclined to only go with what's canon. (example: See any Kataang gloating around here?)
Obvious pairings aren't automatically bad, and those that support them aren't stupid kids who can only see what's in front of their faces. It really offends me when people think that. If I seem idiotic in some way, please let me know. Hell, I'm Kataang, but I ship Toko like whoa. And what if they do like all the canon pairings? That just means that they think Mike and Bryan chose well.ZeDancingFlame Zutarians were able to look beyond what was there and come up with their own opinions. ZeDancingFlame Thats my argument. If you have issues with it, well, tough. Thats my (and most of the Zutarian empire)'s mentality. And we aren't going away.
Sorry for the blathering. >>;
@ Kasumi: Your relationship sounds so cute. ^^
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Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:36 pm
it was always meant to be between aang and katara....the southern raiders was an awesome episode that helped fill in info bout katara's pst but also to appease the zutara fans out there..."she was protecting the last waterbender...who?....ME!"..awesome waterbending!
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 5:45 pm
I, personally, didn't like either pairing, lol. I agree with those who said that Aang was just too young, and don't give me any of that "he's really 112" bull. He's 12. He was, essentially, uncoscious for 100 years, he has no gathered wisdom and has neither the mentality, nor the maturity of an adult or even a somewhat older teen. He's a kid. Ad katara did act like a mother/sister figure for Aang. I knew Kataang was coming all along and it bugged me because I felt it made no sense. two year age differenc, whatevs, I don't care, he's like 2 feet shorter than her, well, so are my bro and his fiance, see previous, don't care. But it's just a personality thing. I don't think they meshed well. I think the reincarnation of love mentioned by the Guru was more of a maternal, warm, familial love, not romantic.
Zuko and Katara was just silly. Opposites don't really attract as often as everyone thinks outside the world of magnetism. He was a p***k until like, those last 2 eps, and she hated him for most of the series, that kind of hate can't just switch to love right away. I don't really know who would have made a better love interest for Katara (I'm looking at this from her POV, because I like her more) but I liked Haru. He was nice, strong, tall, cute, had a nice goatee,all around a good guy, though he didn't get nearly enough screentime to be love.
I'm actually against any major pairings for the plot, to be honest. I think those two kissing was very cute, but I don't like that that's how they ended it. That scene makes it seem like the whole show was about bringing those two together and I feel it does an injustice to the rest of the characters. It was about everyone and how they grew together and make each other stronger, not about Aang finding himself a gf.
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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 5:48 am
Heh. My dear dear friends. cool . You have all given excellent arguments for your respective pairings, but I believe the battle isnt over yet. I know it said "The End" before the closing credits of "Sozen's Comet" but why would they end it with such a cliff hanger as they left it off with?! Zuko still has not found his mother!! Dont you think we have a right to see that, I don't think the creators are that cruel. Anyway I'm getting off topic. I really have thought that the love Aang has had for Katara has been in a way that is more than motherly, and I have always thought of it as really cute. I think that it had to happen that they would have to go out for a while. I dont think it will last bettween them but I think that it makes sense for now. I think they got caught up in the moment. Aang just saved the world and its bright and happy and the war is over and Katara feels love and gratefulness towards Aang, but not the same way that he sees her. I feel bad for Aang, but I do believe it is as Aunt Woo said, there wont be any marriage for the Avatar. I just dont belive there is enough spark bettween them, honestly. They would'nt argue. I think a long-lasting realationship needs conflict in it to keep the parities intrested.
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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:02 am
I'm sorry to say that you're wrong on that count sharkcrow. The less fighting a relationship has, the better - trust me!
And Aang and Katara have had a few arguments in the past but they've always respected each other. All relationships have their problems in the end, but less is always better.
Passionate arguments =/= passionate romance generally. Instead, it breeds dissent and impatience. You might just have been watching a bit too much daytime television. >.<
Also - I'd really like to know where you're getting the idea that Aang won't marry. As I recall, she didn't say anything on the subject at all.
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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:55 am
Ya, I a don't remamber anything about Aunt Woo saying that. Plus, we know at least one Avatar married and had a family, so it makes sense it could happen again. I don't think Aang and Katara will, since they're 12 and 14, but who knows? Think of it this way, how many 14 year olds marry their first boyfriends? Love is a very complex emotion. fully understandting that feeling usually doesn't happen at 12 years old, I think Aang has a very deep running crush on the first pretty girl he saw, also she's very pretty, so that kinda doesn't hurt. All in all, I think it's simply a juvenile crush turned bf/gf and I wouldn't expect it to be lifelong, though we'll likely never find out.
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:47 pm
It's true. Aunt Woo didn't say anything about that. ^^;
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Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:48 pm
I didn't how old Aang was I liked the chemisty between him and Katara. I would have gave up on Zuko and Katara when she threaten to take his life. I hated Zuko and Katara pairing just b/c fans went overboard with it.
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 3:14 am
If it turned out to be Zutara...then they would make...staembenders....
uhhhg...some things just arn't meant to be bred.
Not to mention cloudbenders.... dramallama
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Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 12:44 pm
I have always been a kataang member, but I would have doubts of it when I would watch The Crossroads of Destiny, and The Southern Raiders because thre is Zutara in those
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