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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 6:33 am


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Is that what you guys call it? The Christian Testament? How is it regarded within your faith? I would guess not terribly highly, but I am curious. What is the general opinion of Christianity?
*keep asking questions 'cuz I'm trying to not just converse*


1. Christian Testament
Some call it the New Testament since that's what Christians call it. Some call it the Christian Testament since it's a Christian text, and calling it "New" would make our "Old" sound outmoded, which we don't believe it is -- for us, it's still very much a part of our lives, our beliefs, our actions on a daily basis. Some call it the Greek Testament because that is its original language, the language in which it was first committed to writing (or because the majority of its writers and redactors were in fact Greeks, not Jews). Some don't talk about it at all.

Judaism regards the CT as an interesting piece of writing, but not a part of holy scripture. It contradicts Tanakh and Talmud; it espouses views and beliefs, and encourages actions and attitudes, which are in opposition to Jewish scripture and teachings; and it was not written or compiled (in our view) with the spirit of prophecy in it.

2. Christianity
Some view Christianity as flat-out idolatry, and therefore forbidden for all humanity and not just for Jews. Some view it as "avodah zarah," foreign worship, as mentioned in the Ten Commandments, and therefore acceptable for non-Jews but foreign and unacceptable for Jews. Some view it as a perfectly valid belief system, but again, not something that a Jew should chase after, because a Jew's spiritual home is Judaism. Some view it as exotic and interesting to learn about, but not something to become attached to. There are those, too, who believe that Christianity and Islam are there in order to pave the way for monotheism (Noachism) among the nations of the world, so they value it as a viable stepping-stone for humanity.

And some, to our sorrow, aren't given enough Jewish education to understand why we don't believe what Christianity teaches. Many of these are approached by the Hebrew-Christian groups (the ones that call themselves Messianic 'Jews' or 'Jews' for Jesus, and so on), and they fall in with them, thus removing themselves and their children from the Jewish family for future generations.
PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 2:48 pm


about the Jews for Jesus thing, 4 out of 5 Jews will be approached by a missionary.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 8:28 am


Yes, and the sad part is that many Jews are so uninformed about Judaism that they have no idea why we Jews have been refusing to leave Judaism for two thousand years. These are the ones that often respond to the missionizing. Knowledge is the key to retaining Judaism among Jews.
PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 4:59 pm


1.) Funny, I thought dancing-in-the-streets was Mormon and not Christian from that 'Mormons' thread.

2.) Is this where Divash is when she's not popping up out of nowhere and sharing massive amounts of wisdom?

3.) Yes, there are a lot more branches of Judaism than a lot of people think.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:54 am


1. Mormons consider themselves Christian. Some Christian sects/groups/denominations consider Mormons Christian, and others do not.

2. Is what where I am, when I'm not popping up out of nowhere? If I'm not popping up out of nowhere, it must follow that I am, in fact, nowhere. wink Or... that I'm offline, leading the life that I come back to post about.

3. I don't actually have anything to say about this, except that the "three Jews, four opinions" thing surely applies here. There are as many Judaisms as there are Jews. We just group up with other Jews who are more-or-less on the same page as ourselves, for convenience.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:46 pm


1.) Ah, yes; I'd forgotten that.

2.) I suppose you have a point, I'm just not used to seeing you posting regularly, just spontaneously showing up with helpful paragraphs of answers.

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