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singin strawberry

PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 5:29 pm


baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me no mo'.

sorry, that's all i could think of while i was reading it.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:57 am


I'm sorry yeahitsawesome, about changing your title. I just wanted to let readers know that this is more like an article rather than a question seeking advice. That way, more people will read it. I also changed it to a sticky because I find this article very important.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:49 am


I agree!
PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 8:57 am


LOVE ADVICE THREAD EXISTS!!!

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 6:07 am


Sorry. I'm just bumping this thread up.
PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:08 am


UPDATE

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 11:30 am


It's so nice to read over this guide once in a while. I never get tired of reading it.
PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 7:07 am


I have to disagree solely on the grounds that I fully believe there is no universe 'rule' on what love is or isn't and that it is and always will be solely up to each person to define it in their own way. smile

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1. Give one another things such as gifts and encouragement cards.
2. Compliment one another. Magnify the other party's strength.
3. Listen to one another. Pay close attention to what each of you has to say and make each other feel that what each says is important.
4. Treat one another special in public. Compliment and encourage one another sincerely in the presence of others.
9. Love is patient with the faults of others. It doesn't criticise and broadcast to the world the faults of others. Love is there even when it knows the other is not perfect.
12. Love does not seek its own. This is the heart of love. Love is other-centered rather than self- centered. Love says, "I love you, I want to give to you." Selfishness says, "I love you, I want you!"

Sorry, but anyone can and should do these for anyone and everyone, from the love of your live to strangers. I don't need to be in love with someone to be 'other-centered' and what them to come first or to fully listen to them. Let's not confuse love with kindness, openness, and helpfulness, similar in many regards yes but love is more specific in the details. (If you want to go off on 'kindness is love' well that just gets back into what I said before about how what love is is up to each person individually. smile )

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8. Love always covers. This word cover means to pass over in silence, to keep confidential.

Umm what? Since when is being in love "confidential"? When you love something you show it, whether you want to or not, in your actions, mood, expressions, speech, interactions, etc etc etc It's not confidential razz ...although I could be misunderstanding.

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10. Love always Perseveres. Love always stands its ground and hold out. It will outlast anything. It will even love in the face of unrequited love. Real love will last though all sorts of trials, tribulations and stresses.

No sorry, it doesn't. I am going to kill the romanticism here. I have a degree in psychology and have seen countless studies and such that show that love, like everything else, rises and falls. Yes 'real' love. It can outlast a hell of a lot of stuff, perhaps even go on forever in some cases, but it can still suffer the same decay as everything else. If someone tries to tell me that when I was in love with my last boyfriend that I 'wasn't really' in love because we broke up I would slap them razz Of course, because I believe that what love is is up to each person, I can't make anyone agree. But if you are a person who thinks 'omg our love will totally last forever!' than from a psychological stand point I think your nuts and from a personal stand point I think your in love with romanticism and have a very deluded idea on love xd

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13. Love does not act unbecomingly. This means that love does not behave disgracefully, dishonourably or indecently. It does not embarrass others by its action. It is characterised by tact and sensitivity. This also means that love should have good manner. Be sure to do little things like opening doors for your girl, or offering her your arm when you walk together.

This depends on what your views of love are as well as your views on what is disgraceful, dishonorable, etc. People from different cultures can and do look at others and go 'what the ******** is that about? their crazy!" hehe In some cultures it is perfectly acceptable for the woman to stay home and raise the kids, we can't look bad on them just because someone says "well if you really loved them you would let them work!" We can't judge others based on our own views.

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14. Lastly, Love is forgiving. This is a MUST for a successful love story. If a guy is not willing to forgive and forget when his girlfriend is one hour late, he is not exhibiting love. Love doesn't hold grudges when it has been wronged. It doesn't remain resentful.

** Remember this: Love forgets past failures and sins. **

Real love does not forget, it is just deep enough to forgive and continue. That's like saying a battered wife who truly loves her husband should just forget that he beats her (and yes dears she can be honestly and truly in love with him razz ). And love might not hold grudges but people do and despite our wanting to romanticize every little thing, there are other things going on. Its not just love, the whole of human emotion and existence is going on every second at the exact same time and they do interact. A man (or woman razz since this seems to be written by a woman) can get angry at his girlfriend if she is late for a number of reasons, none of which have anything to do with or affect his love for her in any way.

People will argue, they will fight, they will get on each others nerves. That is an unavoidable part of life even for and especially between lovers because no one has exactly the same views and so disagreements will happen. Yes the one you love can and should be more willing to compromise and change and all that but that doesn't change the fact that it happens. It also doesn't change the fact that they love you. Why 'especially between lovers', its more 'especially between anyone your really close with' actually, because you are closer to them. The closer you are to someone the more likely you are to share deeper, personal views on things (like beliefs on hot topics: politics, religion, how to discipline a child, etc). That sharing will lead to deep, personal discussion and like I said, no one believes the exact same things as anyone else, we might agree on a lot, but not everything.

My point is, people who are in real, honest, true love will fight and will argue and will hold grudges. But none of that gets in the way of how they feel about it other (unless of course their love is in a declining stage). Like the post said, love is about excepting the imperfection in someone else and still loving them when its all over. I completely disagree with my fiance on some things and we fight about them a lot (like money, he wants bigger and better and I want just what we need) but that won't stop me from marring him biggrin

Anyways, that's just one opinion from my psychologist, human observer/lover brain. Make up your own mind and love who and how you want 3nodding

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 3:28 pm


Wow. That was so deep. No wonder you're so good at giving advice and analyzing all this stuff. You have a psychology degree! xd That is so cool. I'd love to become a psychologist, if only I was good at giving clear advice and going beyond the surface of things. blaugh
PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:25 am


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hahah I actually want to be a counselor not a psychologist but anyways, I think you give just fine advice. All anyone needs to remember if they want to help others is that the first thing is to LISTEN and listen well. smile
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:46 pm


A counselor is cool too! I feel that in the future, we will need with a sociology/psychology background to help others because- I don't know if it's just me- but there seems to be more people with anxiety disorders/stress that they can't handle/mental complications .etc. It's probably an effect of stress from our lifestyles (fast paced, construction of status/identity by following certain trends). That or society is just becoming more knowledgeable in the psychology area. Lol. Now that I think about it, it's most likely the latter.

Aww. You're so sweet, but I agree it's about listening. Even if people can't help, it feels nice to have someone kindly listening.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 3:49 pm


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14. Lastly, Love is forgiving. This is a MUST for a successful love story. If a guy is not willing to forgive and forget when his girlfriend is one hour late, he is not exhibiting love. Love doesn't hold grudges when it has been wronged. It doesn't remain resentful.

** Remember this: Love forgets past failures and sins. **

Real love does not forget, it is just deep enough to forgive and continue. That's like saying a battered wife who truly loves her husband should just forget that he beats her (and yes dears she can be honestly and truly in love with him razz )............

Anyways, that's just one opinion from my psychologist, human observer/lover brain. Make up your own mind and love who and how you want 3nodding


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Ok I agree mostly with what you are saying, love cannot be defined or shaped, its either there or its not. And yes I do believe that love can be learned.
The part that I emboldenned seemed unnecessary, a tool to get your message across...I don't see what it has to do with your overall message, it seems like a throwaway comment used to gain come credit...

Love is unconditional. I have been hurt in the past by someone I loved, yet I still love him. And I always will. REAL love does not go away, feelings do not diminish, only the reasoning behind it.

On a side note, where did you gain your psych degree?

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Fullmoon_Sagashite123
A counselor is cool too! I feel that in the future, we will need with a sociology/psychology background to help others because- I don't know if it's just me- but there seems to be more people with anxiety disorders/stress that they can't handle/mental complications .etc. It's probably an effect of stress from our lifestyles (fast paced, construction of status/identity by following certain trends). That or society is just becoming more knowledgeable in the psychology area. Lol. Now that I think about it, it's most likely the latter.

Little from column A, little from column B lol its not that there is more of anything, its just that there is more people to talk about it and exaggerate things. People have stress because they allow their lives to get so chaotic and then they go and look for "cures" rather than changing their lifestyles (and doctors just love to give out mindless prescriptions because that's how the money comes in. Depression is not on the rise, doctors giving out unneeded prescriptions is.)

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The part that I emboldenned seemed unnecessary, a tool to get your message across...I don't see what it has to do with your overall message, it seems like a throwaway comment used to gain come credit...

Love is unconditional. I have been hurt in the past by someone I loved, yet I still love him. And I always will. REAL love does not go away, feelings do not diminish, only the reasoning behind it.

On a side note, where did you gain your psych degree?

Every single word is a tool to get one's message across deary wink And I don't speak in "overall messages," I was only speaking on that point there (as I was with all the other points, which is why I pointed them out in the first place), namely the whole "Remember this: Love forgets past failures and sins" part. I was just making a point that that statement is ludicrous.

Also, sorry but I completely disagree about feelings not diminishing as well as with love being unconditional. You seem to be applying your own personal views of what love is to it. Might not be the way you personally work when it comes to love, but the feelings of real love can and do fade and love can be conditional. That doesn't make it not real love though.

And where I got my degree... from a 4 year college hehe why does it matter where it's from? xd
PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:48 pm


@ Lady Sedia: Hmm... I never thought about it that way. Thanks. I love this guild. It makes me smarter because I see different sides to a topic. 3nodding

@ Everyone: Lol. Love is complicated. I think real love is when a husband and wife seem to be neutral on the exterior, but they're really not. I think it's called 'compassionate love'?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 1:38 pm


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that's a good way to look at things 3nodding
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