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PhaedraMcSpiffy

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 4:57 pm


...Huh?

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I've even ran to my mother when I was five, begging her to tell me if the stork brings everyone babies or just delivers to people that want them. Later she tells me that I looked like I was going to have a heart attack until she told me it doesn't. I figured he should be kind of like the pizza guy anyway. lol


*laughs* If only!

That's an awesome story.
PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:36 pm


PhaedraMcSpiffy
O_O

Apparently it's not that uncommon, and I've heard about it a lot, but... It seriously creeps me out. I can't understand or even imagine feeling that way. I have never wanted to have kids. I've gone through horny phases, but never wanting-to-get-pregnant phases.

I think I used to be fascinated by pregnancy and childbirth when I was little, before I really understood it. Now that I do I'm terrified and disgusted by it. I'm actually kind of repulsed by kids and babies. I like animals and animal babies, but those are different because there's less potential to mess up their lives and they can usually take care of themselves a little bit.


To me, kids sound like a big hassle. Never want them, and want to find a girl who doesn't either. Someone who is pro choice personal, so that if by that small chance she does get pregnant, abortion would not be "out of the question." I do plan on vasectomy at 24. But If I find someone and we go at it beforehand...its still something to think about. I never understood the urge to have kids. I've been told by people I'm smart all the way down to selfish or stupid on this. A huge chunk of the reason I am pro choice is because I am also childfree. Atheist too, which sort of ties in to the religious groups opposing abortion...really all of my views mesh. I'm a colorful character if I do say so myself ^_^. It's because of this I cannot seem to find a partner (found someone really compatable but they live in the state over. Maybe one day if I can get to see her really often and we're both still single, I'll bring it up again. we still talk). Anyway, hornieness fades a little if you immerse yourself in porn 2-3 times a day and go to bed thinking of sex at night. sry for the brief rambling guys and gals. And as long as you keep your head and you dont' want kids yet or ever, you'll be fine. Just put your mind to your goals and, if it be your choice, make yourself dead set on preventing early or any pregnancy . Mind over hormones, basically.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:23 pm


My Ex had a dream about me being pregnant with a litter of kittens and he could feel them purring. If only! *sigh*
PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:55 pm


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...I've been told by people I'm smart all the way down to selfish or stupid on this. A huge chunk of the reason I am pro choice is because I am also childfree....


Reminds me of Breeder Bingo:

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 6:45 pm


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Oh honey, I've been there. I've got two kids of my own (8 and 4) and every time I hold a baby my clock starts bashing me upside the head.

When my maternal instincts go into overdrive I think about how damn expensive having a baby is. 6k for a normal, healthy pregnancy and birth, all the money it's going to take to get a crib, blankets, clothes, health care, food, the car seats, strollers and oh god the diapers! I've spent about FIVE GRAND on diapers. (For two kids, two and a half years of diapers each.)

And if that doesn't kill the urge dead in it's tracks there's also the joyous job of cleaning up after the little buggers. The average infant dirties about six to ten diapers a day. Most are pee-pee but the dirty ones are killer, especially after they start eating solids. Plus they puke everywhere and at the WORST moments.

Ugh.
If that doesn't kill the urge than god help you child. razz

My grandmother always tells me "when you have a child, USE CLOTH DIAPERS".

Lulz.


The main reason why cloth diapers work the best is because the kid can FEEL THE MESS (unlike commercial disposable diapers). My mom used cloth on my sister and myself. We were potty trained VERY quickly. When it's easy to just s**t and piss in your pants without the feeling of it up next to your body, it's easy to not want to potty train, because you don't have to deal with anything and your mom comes along and changes you.

Of course, you have to clean them by hand, but that's the trade off to waiting five or more years to get your kids using the toilet.

I have the big problem of being really keen to have children, but feeling at the same time that they're so messy and expensive that I don't know if I could handle it. Plus, I don't know what I'm going to do about staying home vs. work, and my husband is just finishing up his BA (I already have mine and am working). The thing is, I'm really good with kids, I pretty much raised both of my younger siblings, and I know all of the things that entails having children (bad and good) but I still want them anyway!!

And it's really annoying because I know that if I had kids, I wouldn't be able to bike everywhere like I do now because I'd have to drive the kid places. And that bothers me, because I don't like driving. I'm just not sure how I can juggle a 24/7 commitment like a child with my life. But I REALLY want to have one....and I have a slight impregnation fetish, plus the scientist at the back of my brain wants to know (at least once) what the feeling of pregnancy and child birth are like.

My best advice? Get on the Pill if you can, and then allow your partner to orgasm inside of you. I never got pregnant when I was on the pill and I did that all the time. It is technically "risky" but I had no problems with it.

Although, now, I can't take the pill anymore because it made my bloodpressure skyrocket and caused me to gain a lot of weight (my blood pressure is normal off the pills and I'm slowly losing weight now). So every time I have sex it's like I'm practically begging my husband to impregnate me, but he promised me that he wouldn't until we both felt logically ready.

The problem is that I don't feel like I'll ever be LOGICALLY ready. *frustration*
PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:31 pm


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My best advice? Get on the Pill if you can, and then allow your partner to orgasm inside of you. I never got pregnant when I was on the pill and I did that all the time. It is technically "risky" but I had no problems with it.


Heh... kinda like how technically, you should always use a condom/dental dam during oral sex... but then, you don't get the taste and contact, so you're like "Well, screw that!" and you're just REALLY glad that neither of you has had any exposure to STDs.... But you feel like a hypocrite because you try to advocate safer-sex all the time? redface

Imeanwhat?!

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The problem is that I don't feel like I'll ever be LOGICALLY ready. *frustration*


I think I know what you mean.

My boyfriend LOVES kids. His mom works with kids, he's going to start working with kids, and he just loves to play with them and hang out, and he's always wanted to be a dad. But me... I really, really, really don't like them. I mean, I can see how it would be nice, and sometimes I think I want to have them someday, but I know they'd be a huge financial drain and a lot of work and I wouldn't necessarily love them or be a good parent. I kind of maybe want kids, but I feel like all my reasons are terribly selfish and that it just doesn't make any sense!

PhaedraMcSpiffy


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:37 pm


Oni no Tenshi
20 Shades of Crazy
crystal_pepzi
Oh honey, I've been there. I've got two kids of my own (8 and 4) and every time I hold a baby my clock starts bashing me upside the head.

When my maternal instincts go into overdrive I think about how damn expensive having a baby is. 6k for a normal, healthy pregnancy and birth, all the money it's going to take to get a crib, blankets, clothes, health care, food, the car seats, strollers and oh god the diapers! I've spent about FIVE GRAND on diapers. (For two kids, two and a half years of diapers each.)

And if that doesn't kill the urge dead in it's tracks there's also the joyous job of cleaning up after the little buggers. The average infant dirties about six to ten diapers a day. Most are pee-pee but the dirty ones are killer, especially after they start eating solids. Plus they puke everywhere and at the WORST moments.

Ugh.
If that doesn't kill the urge than god help you child. razz

My grandmother always tells me "when you have a child, USE CLOTH DIAPERS".

Lulz.


The main reason why cloth diapers work the best is because the kid can FEEL THE MESS (unlike commercial disposable diapers). My mom used cloth on my sister and myself. We were potty trained VERY quickly. When it's easy to just s**t and piss in your pants without the feeling of it up next to your body, it's easy to not want to potty train, because you don't have to deal with anything and your mom comes along and changes you.

Of course, you have to clean them by hand, but that's the trade off to waiting five or more years to get your kids using the toilet.

I have the big problem of being really keen to have children, but feeling at the same time that they're so messy and expensive that I don't know if I could handle it. Plus, I don't know what I'm going to do about staying home vs. work, and my husband is just finishing up his BA (I already have mine and am working). The thing is, I'm really good with kids, I pretty much raised both of my younger siblings, and I know all of the things that entails having children (bad and good) but I still want them anyway!!

And it's really annoying because I know that if I had kids, I wouldn't be able to bike everywhere like I do now because I'd have to drive the kid places. And that bothers me, because I don't like driving. I'm just not sure how I can juggle a 24/7 commitment like a child with my life. But I REALLY want to have one....and I have a slight impregnation fetish, plus the scientist at the back of my brain wants to know (at least once) what the feeling of pregnancy and child birth are like.

My best advice? Get on the Pill if you can, and then allow your partner to orgasm inside of you. I never got pregnant when I was on the pill and I did that all the time. It is technically "risky" but I had no problems with it.

Although, now, I can't take the pill anymore because it made my bloodpressure skyrocket and caused me to gain a lot of weight (my blood pressure is normal off the pills and I'm slowly losing weight now). So every time I have sex it's like I'm practically begging my husband to impregnate me, but he promised me that he wouldn't until we both felt logically ready.

The problem is that I don't feel like I'll ever be LOGICALLY ready. *frustration*


What about an IUD?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:04 pm


Trite~Elegy
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20 Shades of Crazy
crystal_pepzi
Oh honey, I've been there. I've got two kids of my own (8 and 4) and every time I hold a baby my clock starts bashing me upside the head.

When my maternal instincts go into overdrive I think about how damn expensive having a baby is. 6k for a normal, healthy pregnancy and birth, all the money it's going to take to get a crib, blankets, clothes, health care, food, the car seats, strollers and oh god the diapers! I've spent about FIVE GRAND on diapers. (For two kids, two and a half years of diapers each.)

And if that doesn't kill the urge dead in it's tracks there's also the joyous job of cleaning up after the little buggers. The average infant dirties about six to ten diapers a day. Most are pee-pee but the dirty ones are killer, especially after they start eating solids. Plus they puke everywhere and at the WORST moments.

Ugh.
If that doesn't kill the urge than god help you child. razz

My grandmother always tells me "when you have a child, USE CLOTH DIAPERS".

Lulz.


The main reason why cloth diapers work the best is because the kid can FEEL THE MESS (unlike commercial disposable diapers). My mom used cloth on my sister and myself. We were potty trained VERY quickly. When it's easy to just s**t and piss in your pants without the feeling of it up next to your body, it's easy to not want to potty train, because you don't have to deal with anything and your mom comes along and changes you.

Of course, you have to clean them by hand, but that's the trade off to waiting five or more years to get your kids using the toilet.

I have the big problem of being really keen to have children, but feeling at the same time that they're so messy and expensive that I don't know if I could handle it. Plus, I don't know what I'm going to do about staying home vs. work, and my husband is just finishing up his BA (I already have mine and am working). The thing is, I'm really good with kids, I pretty much raised both of my younger siblings, and I know all of the things that entails having children (bad and good) but I still want them anyway!!

And it's really annoying because I know that if I had kids, I wouldn't be able to bike everywhere like I do now because I'd have to drive the kid places. And that bothers me, because I don't like driving. I'm just not sure how I can juggle a 24/7 commitment like a child with my life. But I REALLY want to have one....and I have a slight impregnation fetish, plus the scientist at the back of my brain wants to know (at least once) what the feeling of pregnancy and child birth are like.

My best advice? Get on the Pill if you can, and then allow your partner to orgasm inside of you. I never got pregnant when I was on the pill and I did that all the time. It is technically "risky" but I had no problems with it.

Although, now, I can't take the pill anymore because it made my bloodpressure skyrocket and caused me to gain a lot of weight (my blood pressure is normal off the pills and I'm slowly losing weight now). So every time I have sex it's like I'm practically begging my husband to impregnate me, but he promised me that he wouldn't until we both felt logically ready.

The problem is that I don't feel like I'll ever be LOGICALLY ready. *frustration*


What about an IUD?


The problem is that I cannot use the one with hormones in it because the hormones caused me to get high blood pressure and gain weight and all sorts of crap. And the one that doesn't have hormones in it...well, when I did the research, they said that if you already have bad periods (which I have again, since I no longer use the hormonal BC), then it will make them even worse. The idea of having pain even WORSE than gut-wrenching cramps that make me feel like my insides are being beaten with a mace terrifies me.

Plus I've had family members that had really bad problems with IUD's, a few of them who got pregnant while with the IUD in them, and the risk of ectopic pregnancy is much higher. Plus, if I were to become infertile, that would make me incredibly sad. I know that it's selfish to want to reproduce, but I like the idea of feeling the experience of what my body can do during pregnancy, even if it's only once.

Add to that the fact that I'm already 23 and I want to reproduce before I turn 30 (and most IUD's are recommended to be put in for at least 10 years), it's just not convenient for me at this time.

*sigh*

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:11 pm


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My best advice? Get on the Pill if you can, and then allow your partner to orgasm inside of you. I never got pregnant when I was on the pill and I did that all the time. It is technically "risky" but I had no problems with it.


Heh... kinda like how technically, you should always use a condom/dental dam during oral sex... but then, you don't get the taste and contact, so you're like "Well, screw that!" and you're just REALLY glad that neither of you has had any exposure to STDs.... But you feel like a hypocrite because you try to advocate safer-sex all the time? redface

Imeanwhat?!


As far as I'm concerned, if you're both exclusive with one another, and you're both free of STI's then protection against pregnancy is enough. Besides, it's not having sex with another inexperienced person who hasn't had any partners (or only had partners of his or her own young age) that is the problem. It's having sex with people older who have had longer to get infected, as well as people who have had an absurd amount of indiscriminate sex partners.

The chance of someone giving you an STD who was born with it is pretty rare. So really, while the hype of STI's is not a laughing matter, especially once you start dating people older than you when you're in college, it's not quite as big of a deal as people think.

I know, I know, it sounds like I'm telling people to be irresponsible. But I'm just saying be safe, cautious and only do what feels comfortable to you. It's much better to use one or two methods of birth control that feel comfortable than to use none because you feel like you'd have to use EVERY CONCEIVABLE METHOD in order to have truly "safe sex" and it's just too much of a pain.

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The problem is that I don't feel like I'll ever be LOGICALLY ready. *frustration*


I think I know what you mean.

My boyfriend LOVES kids. His mom works with kids, he's going to start working with kids, and he just loves to play with them and hang out, and he's always wanted to be a dad. But me... I really, really, really don't like them. I mean, I can see how it would be nice, and sometimes I think I want to have them someday, but I know they'd be a huge financial drain and a lot of work and I wouldn't necessarily love them or be a good parent. I kind of maybe want kids, but I feel like all my reasons are terribly selfish and that it just doesn't make any sense!


Yeah. I feel that too. But it's one of those things where I see people have babies all the time who are in worse situations than me, and they have good relationships with their kids while also working or going to school as well! So I figure it won't be impossible, just taxing on my body...which is why I want to have them before I turn 30. Because after that, I'm sure that I'll need all the energy I can get to keep up with everything involving my offspring as well as my husband, my finances, and life in general.

It's scary now, just like it was scary thinking about going away to college. But after a few months or a year of struggling, I am finally starting to feel secure and safe...on my own terms instead of under my parents.
PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:12 am


I have the STUPIDEST BODY IN THE WORLD.

I discovered this last night.

5-10% of women can orgasm from intercourse alone. Yep, I'm one of them.

5-10% of women suffer decreased libido whilst on the pill. Oh hell yes, that's me too.

What is the point of being able to orgasm from sex if I never want it?!?!?

The baby cravings haven't stopped, though.

Oni: I too want to experience pregnancy and childbirth, just out of curiosity.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:57 am


PhaedraMcSpiffy
...Huh?

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I've even ran to my mother when I was five, begging her to tell me if the stork brings everyone babies or just delivers to people that want them. Later she tells me that I looked like I was going to have a heart attack until she told me it doesn't. I figured he should be kind of like the pizza guy anyway. lol


*laughs* If only!

That's an awesome story.


Oh yeah, adamently childfree since the age of 5! I think it might have been those crying doll babies that might have set me off. I got all the little girl toys that seem to be nothing more than those aimed to "train me early" and make me like children..who would have thought they'd repulse me enough to go in the complete opposite direction? wink

But yeah..unless I could call up the "stork" (part time job: pizza dude) with an order for a quiet child well past the age of diapers that happens to be an old soul like I was, there's no chance of there ever being a child in my life. I'll make do with puppies.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:20 pm


Fran Salaska
I have the STUPIDEST BODY IN THE WORLD.

I discovered this last night.

5-10% of women can orgasm from intercourse alone. Yep, I'm one of them.

5-10% of women suffer decreased libido whilst on the pill. Oh hell yes, that's me too.

What is the point of being able to orgasm from sex if I never want it?!?!?

The baby cravings haven't stopped, though.

Oni: I too want to experience pregnancy and childbirth, just out of curiosity.


sad

That is so sad!

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As far as I'm concerned, if you're both exclusive with one another, and you're both free of STI's then protection against pregnancy is enough. Besides, it's not having sex with another inexperienced person who hasn't had any partners (or only had partners of his or her own young age) that is the problem. It's having sex with people older who have had longer to get infected, as well as people who have had an absurd amount of indiscriminate sex partners.

The chance of someone giving you an STD who was born with it is pretty rare. So really, while the hype of STI's is not a laughing matter, especially once you start dating people older than you when you're in college, it's not quite as big of a deal as people think.

I know, I know, it sounds like I'm telling people to be irresponsible. But I'm just saying be safe, cautious and only do what feels comfortable to you. It's much better to use one or two methods of birth control that feel comfortable than to use none because you feel like you'd have to use EVERY CONCEIVABLE METHOD in order to have truly "safe sex" and it's just too much of a pain.


See, that sounds reasonable to me. I just feel like I'm a bad safer-sex advocate sometimes, though, because even though it's very safe and there's almost no chance of getting an STD, technically you're still "supposed to" use a condom.

I remember asking Scarleteen about painful intercourse one time, and they made me feel like a bad feminist because I ignored their "go to the doctor" advice for my own "just keep trying" instinct... Which was stupid, yes, but they still shouldn't have made me feel bad for it.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:14 pm


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See, that sounds reasonable to me. I just feel like I'm a bad safer-sex advocate sometimes, though, because even though it's very safe and there's almost no chance of getting an STD, technically you're still "supposed to" use a condom.


"Use a condom" is about as rote memorization as "in 1492, Columbus sailed the ocean blue"...or "How you feel and where you are, that is when you use estar".

It doesn't mean anything unless you actually use it. And if you're in a situation where condoms are a bad idea (many women are allergic to condoms, and condoms are expensive/annoying to put on), it's better to look at your options and see what's best for you.

Currently, I cannot be on hormonal BC anymore, so if my husband orgasms in me, it's with a condom. Other than that, we don't use condoms until we have to worry about orgasm itself.

Of course, there's a risk of pregnancy, but we've already discussed what we would do "in event of pregnancy" and so we believe that the risks are reasonable compared to the benefits. Besides, my husband has mad control over himself. I've gotten him almost to the edge and he's still maintained his promise to me to not get come inside of me until we really are ready to try and conceive....especially when I'm begging him to do it (because of my stupid fetish) and he's feeling really good. So I'm lucky to have someone like me who can keep his head and maintain control when I'm all dissolving into a mass of pleasuring jelly and earthshattering orgasms.

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I remember asking Scarleteen about painful intercourse one time, and they made me feel like a bad feminist because I ignored their "go to the doctor" advice for my own "just keep trying" instinct... Which was stupid, yes, but they still shouldn't have made me feel bad for it.


*shrug*

Going to the doctor doesn't always help. Most of the time, going to the doctor is kind of like having a sounding board. If you're unsure what the problem is, sometimes having someone else take a look at it can shed a lot of light on the problem. It's not just the doctor, it's you being able to listen to the blunt truth by an unbiased person.

When I go to the doctor, I have done research about what is likely the problem. I often ask myself a few questions about the problem that I'm having, especially pertaining to where I am in my cycle, whether or not I'm sick or have a cold or something, my emotional and mental state, my stress level, etc. All of these can be factors that can influence how you feel, and how you can get pleasure.

For example, I can orgasm from penetrative sex every time I have sex with my husband (except in doggie style). However, I did not get like this overnight. It took us over a YEAR of having sex and working through various self-image and other such problems before I could have an orgasm via sex. In fact, I had to "train" myself, little by little, to feel pleasure and even get close to orgasm at all. It was a hard road, but I am reaping all the amazing benefits from it.

One of the things I would suggest (and let me know if this sounds too New Age to you) is to get to know your v****a. Use a speculum and a mirror to examine it. Feel inside of it and notice the difference based on how you feel, the time of the month, etc. Know when your v****a smells "clean" (it's very specifically different, not a bacteria or BO smell), and know when it smells sick. I think that one of the biggest problems is that women don't really understand or know their vaginas. It's like the "little head" joke that men have with their penises, only instead of being friends, most women are like estranged lovers with their vaginas.

It's easier to be horny and wet when you know your body and what it likes. And it's even easier to figure out what's wrong if you know what things are like when it's right.

Just my two cents.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:23 pm


Oh gods, i totally understand! I've always wanted to have children, some day. Someday meaning someday in the far off distant future. And i've had horny moments before, or...all the time... but lately Ive been wanting to get pregnant like NOW! of course, it's not a good time (just graduating college, dont even have a real job yet, getting married in august, really, if i can put it off like just a few more years i'll be golden.) but its to the point that right now i'm a little late (ive been sick, really sick, mono sucks) and i'm kind of almost hoping that i am, even though i know it would be horribly disruptive to my life and plans part of me wants to go pee on a stick and see the little pink plus sign...

weird huh?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:24 am


caffinated_tulip
Oh gods, i totally understand! I've always wanted to have children, some day. Someday meaning someday in the far off distant future. And i've had horny moments before, or...all the time... but lately Ive been wanting to get pregnant like NOW! of course, it's not a good time (just graduating college, dont even have a real job yet, getting married in august, really, if i can put it off like just a few more years i'll be golden.) but its to the point that right now i'm a little late (ive been sick, really sick, mono sucks) and i'm kind of almost hoping that i am, even though i know it would be horribly disruptive to my life and plans part of me wants to go pee on a stick and see the little pink plus sign...

weird huh?


I know that feeling well... boyfriend at uni, myself in a temp job, very little income, moving in with him and some friends next year... baby should be the LAST thing on my list. Yet every time I take a pregnancy test (every three months, just to be sure) I can't help but feel a little disappointed when it's negative. Even though I get s**t-scared when I think I might be.

Phaedra: I'm looking into a change of pill, since I'm positive that's what's causing it. I'll let you know how it goes.
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