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 Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:02 am
The 'what?' option will be removed as it was put there mostly as a joke...
apparently some of you really didnt get it...
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 7:28 pm
Would people PLEASE offer some more suggestions? Please?
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 8:03 pm
Beats me, I'd prefer the ASDF stay like any other Mech/sci-fi (without the magic) animes. The whole Rez R' Us can be explained as highly advanced resurrection science. My character doesnt require any sort of magical uses as neither does her "World" where she comes from, and this doesnt sound like a suggestion so...*thinks for a while*...mmm how about the use of a sort of a "Fairy" system...small mechanoloid that houses a unique property to help its owner. Sort of like the MAGS in Phantasy Star Online.
The ASDF is now and always will be primarily technological in nature. However, it's not in the GG's best intrest to disallow all magic, as that would cut-off at least half the people who might be interested right there.
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 7:19 am
I think the first thing to come to mind is that the PEF theory transfers Magic from a seperate uncontrolled entity TO a definable science... in a sense it is true that the PEF is used to explain magic it also converts it and its terms to naturual force that although vague still has laws that regulate its use.
*it allows Non-Magic based Guilds to at the very least RP without magic while individually. (via excuses that could range from naturual etheric abnormality, to excessive technology that has raised the potential energy of an area too high to allows any additional etheric interference)
*it allows technological guilds with an intrest in magic the ability to study it in a non traditional approach
*it allows magick guilds multiple ways with which to understand, improve, and study magic.
*it allows for technological equipment that although may seem like magic can be explained through science as a viable technologuical ability useing what is truly an advanced science.
and lastly as I mentioned its all OOC knowledge, should an organization intend to study magic in a scientific manner they could slowly gain this information (without it you most likely end up with multiple organizatiosn that would all ahve different results, and a different explination which in a scientific world means none of them are confirmable, and the most brilliant minds in science would basically be out of a job...)
In the end it dosent change the way anyone RP's necessarily, groups that dotn want magic dont need to have magic, and those that do this wont necessarily interfere with how they RP its more so for an OOC clarification should a disagreement break out.
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 1:21 pm
Lindy_Knightstar Beats me, I'd prefer the ASDF stay like any other Mech/sci-fi (without the magic) animes. The whole Rez R' Us can be explained as highly advanced resurrection science. My character doesnt require any sort of magical uses as neither does her "World" where she comes from, and this doesnt sound like a suggestion so...*thinks for a while*...mmm how about the use of a sort of a "Fairy" system...small mechanoloid that houses a unique property to help its owner. Sort of like the MAGS in Phantasy Star Online. The ASDF is now and always will be primarily technological in nature. However, it's not in the GG's best intrest to disallow all magic, as that would cut-off at least half the people who might be interested right there. What the hell...I dont remember adding that last paragraph...it sounds too smart for me to type xd , ok who did it?
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 1:39 pm
Lindy_Knightstar Lindy_Knightstar Beats me, I'd prefer the ASDF stay like any other Mech/sci-fi (without the magic) animes. The whole Rez R' Us can be explained as highly advanced resurrection science. My character doesnt require any sort of magical uses as neither does her "World" where she comes from, and this doesnt sound like a suggestion so...*thinks for a while*...mmm how about the use of a sort of a "Fairy" system...small mechanoloid that houses a unique property to help its owner. Sort of like the MAGS in Phantasy Star Online. The ASDF is now and always will be primarily technological in nature. However, it's not in the GG's best intrest to disallow all magic, as that would cut-off at least half the people who might be interested right there. What the hell...I dont remember adding that last paragraph...it sounds too smart for me to type xd , ok who did it? Erk! That would be me. Meant to hit "Quote", hit "Edit" instead. ^^;; Too smart indeed...
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 2:06 pm
I hate it when I do that, damn you mod powers!
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 4:21 pm
Tanasha Lindy_Knightstar Lindy_Knightstar Beats me, I'd prefer the ASDF stay like any other Mech/sci-fi (without the magic) animes. The whole Rez R' Us can be explained as highly advanced resurrection science. My character doesnt require any sort of magical uses as neither does her "World" where she comes from, and this doesnt sound like a suggestion so...*thinks for a while*...mmm how about the use of a sort of a "Fairy" system...small mechanoloid that houses a unique property to help its owner. Sort of like the MAGS in Phantasy Star Online. The ASDF is now and always will be primarily technological in nature. However, it's not in the GG's best intrest to disallow all magic, as that would cut-off at least half the people who might be interested right there. What the hell...I dont remember adding that last paragraph...it sounds too smart for me to type xd , ok who did it? Erk! That would be me. Meant to hit "Quote", hit "Edit" instead. ^^;; Too smart indeed... Hey! Im smart...its just that doesnt sound like something I would say.
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 9:26 pm
Lindy Knightstar Tanasha Lindy_Knightstar Lindy_Knightstar Beats me, I'd prefer the ASDF stay like any other Mech/sci-fi (without the magic) animes. The whole Rez R' Us can be explained as highly advanced resurrection science. My character doesnt require any sort of magical uses as neither does her "World" where she comes from, and this doesnt sound like a suggestion so...*thinks for a while*...mmm how about the use of a sort of a "Fairy" system...small mechanoloid that houses a unique property to help its owner. Sort of like the MAGS in Phantasy Star Online. The ASDF is now and always will be primarily technological in nature. However, it's not in the GG's best intrest to disallow all magic, as that would cut-off at least half the people who might be interested right there. What the hell...I dont remember adding that last paragraph...it sounds too smart for me to type xd , ok who did it? Erk! That would be me. Meant to hit "Quote", hit "Edit" instead. ^^;; Too smart indeed... Hey! Im smart...its just that doesnt sound like something I would say. Actually I was talking about myself. You said it was 'too smart' to be written by you, and I said that it was a dumb mistake.
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 6:21 pm
Weh. This thread blows my mind.
What about creatures dependent on magic for their survival? I conceptualize magic as my characters use it to be energy and/or power possessed directly by the character, in an anime-esque style. However, they're technically...goddamn it, I had a really nice word to describe this, but I forgot it...well, nonphysical creatures of pure magical energy "bound" to physical forms which house their energy. What this means is that while they don't technically exist in the physical plane, they must use physical bodies to affect this realm fully - and at the same time, those bodies take on the perspective and weaknesses of mortal forms, albeit highly enhanced ones.
However, this brings into question, of course, anti-magic fields. In the presence of said fields, the usual effect is to restrict the characters' power exclusively to their bodies, keeping their magic all locked up inside and confining their ability to affect the world in the anti-magic field area EXCLUSIVELY to the abilities of their physical body. However, if we enforce theories about the "ether" and various magical properties more suited to D&D and classic wizard styles, then newer anime-styled magics essentially get the boot, and characters based around such power are effectively restricted from the thread as a whole - such rules, following the classic concepts of using mana in slow spellcasting, would essentially tear my main characters apart piece-by-piece.
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 6:42 pm
Actually as per your stement youve already made the same point Ive made several times, both on how magical creatures that dont physically exist can exist, and how they interact with this enviroment (look for the post refering to griffens reference to fairies, and my response.)
and two, as stated about the anti-magic fields Ive only stated magic is not capable of effectign the enviroment, Ive never stated the key source cannot be a persons body, and likewise that even in such an enviroment is the control of such magics destroyed.. only that in areas that siphon large amount of energy (reactors generators things reliant on magnetic induction etc) that they may feel alittle drained. The concept of aether is not taken from D&D (never been a big fan of D&D) its actually from an old theory that space was filled with entirely of aether a sort of quasi-photon that allows energy transfers and solar radiation... when we got into space and found it was bunk the theory was pretty much dead, Ive simply ressurected it to deal with a planar void, not a universal void.
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 7:31 pm
Ugh...that's why I stick to inventing my own RP; it ensures I understand what the hell I'm doing. Using other people's stuff inevitably ends with confusion. >_O *found out a couple of months ago his vision of Gel's CRISAT armor was pretty different than Ganale's view, and had to rewrite story to enable heavy modification of the armor*
Where's the OOC thread for this place, anyway?
Eh, feel free to delete this post if you so choose, its pertinence to the topic is minimal at best.
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 7:53 pm
CRISAT is a NATO test standard armor amount equalling 1.6mm of titanium and 20 layers of kevlar. Used to test the penetrative power of new rounds.
Though from what Ive seen of Ganales KCA thats not what he means by CRISAT *shrug*
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 7:54 pm
The way I understand it, this theory doesn't change your RPing at all.. it just lets you know what you're doing. You can start a fire, but not understand how it exists.
Basically, it allows Technology and Magic to interact. It says that the Ether is in all things, and can be heavily concentrated or completely absent for a time, thus making a vacuum.
Althought the Ether theory was around before, as he said, Jay really came up with it as to relate to Magic in Gaia. 3nodding
And the OOC Thread is called the GG Lounge or Bar or something. sweatdrop
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 8:00 pm
Yeah, but I'm bad with stuff when I don't know exactly how it works; while I've got guns for my characters, they're rarely used in favor of my own magics and weaponry. I tend to be unfamiliar with concepts I don't engineer myself; for example, while I have only a basic idea of the destructive power of a frag grenade and I've never even seen a picture of C4, my own "electric grenade" design was thought up from scratch and Gel's dimensional grenades are nice and simple manipulated portals.
By the way, Bolt, the VERY first thing that came to mind when observing the Justice Department thread was "Flammable doors! domokun ". Remember, fire is the simplest thing a villian can do, and a personal favorite technique of mine.
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