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 Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:00 am
I think Neville makes a good Gryffindor. Not only is he brave; he has the chivalry down too, something that many of the Gryffindor boys lack when - according to the hat - they should have it. I wouldn't put him anywhere else. Just like I wouldn't put Dumbledore anwhere else. If Hermione can be a brilliant Gryffindor so can Dumbledore.
I completely agree with Minerva about why Pettigrew should've been a Slytherin and why he wasn't put there.
I agree with what Sylvia said about the hat putting you where "you would go furthest in life" and that was why Hermione was a Gryffindor, though I disagree about Harry making a good Slytherin. Courage was definitely his best quality, and he wasn't cunning at all. If it wasn't for Hermione and Dumbledore he wouldn't have a clue about to do half the time, but he thought well on his feet and never backed down. Such bravery. And when he was so calm about going to his death because it would save everyone else...He was a real hero then, and I can't imagine someone non-Gryffindor doing that.
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:05 pm
If you judge Harry in that way, I suppose he would fit in Hufflepuff as well. He is, throughout the book, always loyal to his friends. Harry aims to protect those around him, and isn't that a Hufflepuff quality? Though I'm a bit sorry about the stereotype that makes Slytherin the evil house. Slytherins aren't actually that much different from Gryffindors. Both have a big "pride thing". The largest difference, I would suppose, is that Slytherins are subtle and Gryffindors are more blunt. In the books, though, all the 'bad people' come from Slytherin...which makes is a 'bad' house.
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:32 pm
In response to Turaya, I would like to say that, I agree with Harry's quality. He aims to protect others, and that is a very good Hufflepuff quality. The hat said that Harry had the potential to be Slytherin. The only reason Harry had not been sorted there in the first book is because he asked not to be sorted there, thanks to Ron's and Hagrid's prejudge that had spilled onto him as well.
*NEXT PART CONTAINS SPOILER READ ON IF YOU WISH* Text in small size.
I'd also like to thank you for saying that we Slytherins aren't all evil. I would like to take this moment to point out Snape. Who actually turned out to be good, in the end.
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:58 pm
Aha! I thought of another person! Peter Pettigrew, who betrayed the Potters to Riddle...he wasn't a Slytherin, but showed none of the Gryffindor bravery or loyalty (Hufflepuff?). Though I wouldn't know where to put him. -shuns Pettigrew- XD
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Minerva the Whore 4 Books
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 12:07 am
Actually, I already mentioned Wormtail in an earlier post. (It was under my old account name MinervaEvenstar.)
I still believe Harry should be a Gryffindor. The reason the Hat wanted to put Harry in Slytherin is because a piece of Voldemort's soul was inside of him, and Voldemort was Slytherin's heir. It didn't have much to do with Harry himself. Sure, resourcefulness is a Slytherin quality, but it's also a Ravenclaw one, and Harry doesn't belong there either.
I agree with Sapphire that Harry wasn't cunning enough to be a Slytherin. Quote: he wasn't cunning at all. If it wasn't for Hermione and Dumbledore he wouldn't have a clue about to do half the time, but he thought well on his feet and never backed down.
Yes, Harry is very loyal, however, he isn't hard working enough to be a Hufflepuff. He works to defeat Voldemort and win Quidditch games, but those things are important to him, and Hufflepuffs are hard-working in general. They put 100% effort into everything that they do, not merely what they want to do. How often did Harry lazily wait to do his homework at the last minute with Ron? A lot.
Besides, being loyal to someone does not mean that you would risk your life for them; it simply means that you wouldn't betray them. Harry not telling anyone where Sirius was hiding was loyalty, but him going to "rescue" Sirius in the Department of Mysteries was courage.
Because no one can determine tone unless they're conversing in person it sometimes seems like people are arguing in debate threads, but we all know it's just for fun, don't we? smile
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 7:44 am
Certainly, Hermione would have been a great Ravenclaw, but I am actually quite happy that she is in Gryffindor^^
Someone said that Snape should be a Gryffindor, because in the end he turned out to be good. But well, I don't think that all Slytherins are bad and evil.
I don't know in which house Pettigrew belongs. (I really don't like him)
He is not very intelligentr or wise, so he can't be a Ravenclaw, he's not brave either, so Gryffindor doesn't fit and he can't be a Hufflepuff because he is everything else but loyal. Well, maybe he is a Slytherin, but in the books, Slytherin is seen through the eyes of Gryffindors, so the reader gets the impression that all Slytherins are evil which is, as I already said, not true.
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Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 7:10 pm
I think hermione would have been a great ravenclaw also! Don't get me wrong I'm happy she was in gryfindore with harry, but she was all or books so she would have been a great addition to ravenclaw!
I also think Peter was sorted wrong. He was not brave and he didn't care about saving any body else. He cared about self-preservation above all else which is also slytherin trait I think.
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Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 9:26 pm
I believe that Fred and George should have been in Slytherin. I mean that they are both sly and sneaky, and would have have done a lot more in that house than playing it safe in Gryff.
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Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 9:08 pm
serrin79 I believe that Fred and George should have been in Slytherin. I mean that they are both sly and sneaky, and would have have done a lot more in that house than playing it safe in Gryff.
Now that I read that statement, I have to agree. Remembering back to their pranks, I do believe that Fred and George would have fit very well in Slytherin, if they weren't shunned by Draco for being 'blood-traitors'. And we all know that Draco, at least until towards the end, could influence most of the Slytherin’s opinion… at least in the books. I personally, would be one of the few who would have told him to go jump off a cliff. I think the same would be with a number of Slytherin’s in our school. smile
Hahaha, anyway. Fred and George work well in Slytherin because while they are brave, they are mostly cunning and, while this word is a tad harsh I'll admit, it totally fits the twins-- scheming. They always try to find away to have fun, with pranks and such much like peeves. They're bright, cunning and sometimes have a disregard for others, however unintentional that may be. I would certainly be proud, if only slightly annoyed at times, at having those particular Gryff’s in Slytherin. They would have added diversity into the Weasley family that you don't see aside from Percy. The twins most certainly have a place at Slytherin, but like Harry, also have qualities of Gryffindor.
wow, that was an extreamly long reply. Hahaha, sorry.
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:25 pm
Here's a few of the ones I feel about speaking about at the moment. My hands hurt from typing, so I stopped at Harry. I'll add more in a bit.
Hermione: In Gryffindor for plot purposes, yes, but still. She was, in my opinion, equally suited for Ravenclaw and Gryffindor. She was very intelligent and quick-witted, but was also very brave. She shows true Gryffindor and Ravenclaw-ness in the first book, when, rather than panicking at the sight of Fluffy, she remains calm (Gryff) and assesses the situation (Claw). She was perfect for either house, but was put in Gryff so she could meet up with Harry and Ron.
Neville:Sorry, Hufflepuffs, but I'm going to have to disagree. The most common aspects of a Puff are loyalty and honesty, of course, but these traits in Neville are compounded by the traits that put him in Gryff. He is brave, though no one really sees it until the fifth book. Most people consider the bit in the first as a fluke, but it is actually the earliest sign that he is, indeed, a Gryff. Most people arguments that he is a Puff are based solely on the idea that he is not brave and puff is the house where all the 'others' go. Of course, this idea was introduced with the very first sorting hat song, in which the hat stated that Hufflepuff would 'take all the rest'
Peter Pettigrew: Slytherin. Slytherin Slytherin Slytherin. Why? Because in the end, he was out for himself. He joined Voldemort to save his own butt, showing that he cared more about himself than anyone else. Slytherin is the home of the prideful self-righteous people. He was not brave, was not smart, and was not not NOT loyal.
Harry: No one can argue that his sorting was plot purposes, because all of the people who were sorted for that reason were sorted so they were set up for whatever type of interaction with him Jo wanted. He was not meant for Slytherin, because he cared greatly for others, and actually sacrificed himself for them. He did not crave power, obviously, because he used the elder wand to repair his own. Yes, he was quick on his feet, and he was actually pretty intelligent when you think about it. To Sapphire and Minerva, I think you're wrong about him needing Hermione and Dumbledore to understand what was going on. He just needed them for a little shove so he could be on the right track. I believe that the bit in the maze with the sphinx was put there just to discredit that idea, because even though he does wish Hermione was there to help him, he does actually figure it out on his own. The same goes for the snitch in the seventh book. All he had from the beginning was an obscure clue from Dumbledore that even Hermione couldn't figure out, but he eventually got it all on his own. He didn't need them, they just speed everything up. Still, he is most defiantly a Gryff.
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