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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:14 am


My parents give me time limits how long can I be on the pc, so for me it´s not really a matter of choice... sweatdrop
PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:18 am


Blind Guardian the 2nd
I remind you, FLCL, of the koan of Nan-in and the cup of tea. Maybe you should read it and then decide if you really should leave.

Nan-in, a Japanese master during the Meiji era (1868-1912), received a university professor who came to inquire about Zen.

Nan-in served tea. He poured his visitor's cup full, and then kept on pouring.

The professor watched the overflow until he no longer could restrain himself. "It is overfull. No more will go in!"

"Like this cup," Nan-in said, "you are full of your own opinions and speculations. How can I show you Zen unless you first empty your cup?"



Honestly... That is one of the most hypocritical statements I've heard since Sam called you all fluffy.


Do you see how I let Sam back in the guild and Josh stopped posting, Dras could hardly contain her rage, a**l Jesus repeatedly flamed him (in which he can thank his lucky stars he's not banned)?

Do you see how incredibly far you guys drifted off topic when Kthelmeflabifluffy-whatever made that thread?

Do you see how intolerable you all were with the sex-war thread that was INTENDED to be a discussion about the end of the world, not a belittlement of the opposite sex?

(For whoever was in the chatroom) Do you guys see how depressingly intolerant you were of Chiyuri's outrageous statement?


If the MPRILC is supposed to be scientific, and to be scientific you have to be an antagonistic anti-tolerant, anti-respect, claim-to-be-know-it-all, and say that you'll "accept anything" that has enough evidence, then the MPRILC will change or I am going to quit. Because I can't tolerate the stress that this constant belittlement of others, constant claims that no one can live up to, and constant treating others with mis-trust and ill-respect is causing.


- A bit later
Having to walk away from the topic for things to do, I have completely lost track of my thoughts and I totally lost my state of mind... I have forgotten what my point was, but I'm pretty sure it had something to do with how angry and disappointed I am in many of you guild members.

Juss plz b nicerer kthx

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:51 am


Bullshit. I'm not going to be nicer to anyone, for any reason. The people I respect, I respect for a reason; they can present themselves in a professional manner and back up any claims they do make. I flame and mis-trust all the NEW members because they come in here, screaming to high heaven of all this stupid a** s**t, that honestly sounds like its coming from the mouth of a twelve year old.

I quit this guild because YOU, LoBo, created so much ******** drama I could not stand it. Everything you see in your guild is a product of your own doing. You let sam back in, you let choco in knowing he would cause a riot, you created kimiiwaffle whatever to start all this belittlement.

I was in that chat room with chiyuri, I did most of the attacking, if not all. I know I blew it out of proportion, but I still stand by what I said. I caught her/him in a lie, and thats probably what threw me over the edge. I have this need to weed out every lying p***k in town, I apologize for that one day only.

I have kept my mouth close long enough, I am sick of this s**t. Quit playing with the guild like it's come kind of experiment, it's not. We will discuss, and there will be attacking occasionally, it happens, it's life.

If it aint broked dunt fix'd it.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:36 pm


a**l Jesus
Bullshit. I'm not going to be nicer to anyone, for any reason. The people I respect, I respect for a reason; they can present themselves in a proffesional manner and back up any claims they do make. I flame and mis-trust all the NEW members because they come in here, screaming to high heaven of all this stupid a** s**t, that honestly sounds like its coming from the mouth of a twelve year old.

I quit this guild because YOU, LoBo, created so much ******** drama I could not stand it. Everything you see in your guild is a product of your own doing. You let sam back in, you let choco in knowing he would cause a riot, you created kimiiwaffle whatever to start all this belittlement.

I was in that chat room with chiyuri, I did most of the attacking, if not all. I know I blew it out of proportion, but I still stand by what I said. I caught her/him in a lie, and thats probably what through me over the edge. I have this need to weed out every lying p***k in town, I apologize for that one day only.

I have kept my mouth close long enough, I am sick of this s**t. Quit playing with the guild like it's come kind of experiment, it's not. We will discuss, and there will be attacking occasionally, it happens, it's life.

If it aint broked dunt fix'd it.

Oh, AJ, you're so pissed about lying fluffies. A little funny, really, you seem to take each and every one of them as a personal insult, and if you could, would probably go to each and everyone of their houses and punch them in the face for doing it.

But plz don't leave again, it's not the same without you.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:38 pm


Blind Guardian the 2nd
I remind you, FLCL, of the koan of Nan-in and the cup of tea. Maybe you should read it and then decide if you really should leave.

Nan-in, a Japanese master during the Meiji era (1868-1912), received a university professor who came to inquire about Zen.

Nan-in served tea. He poured his visitor's cup full, and then kept on pouring.

The professor watched the overflow until he no longer could restrain himself. "It is overfull. No more will go in!"

"Like this cup," Nan-in said, "you are full of your own opinions and speculations. How can I show you Zen unless you first empty your cup?"

I love this koan. I just don't have what it takes to be Buddhist, though. Or even Zen.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:02 pm


Joshua_Ritter
I love this koan. I just don't have what it takes to be Buddhist, though. Or even Zen.


Most of the time I don't have what it takes either. xd

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:23 pm


Before we forget Lobo's point -

Everyone was really quick to jump on Sam while he was here; many of us didn't even give him the second (third, fourth, fifth) chance that Lobo wanted us to, and instead patiently waited for him to step out of line. Yes, he's lied before, and it was a colossal lie. He may have said some silly things, including misspelling his own religion, which admitedly made me giggle like a four year old. He's said some pretty fluffy s**t - hell, his guild makes me wince with the fluffiness - but in the time he was here, it seemed like he barely posted anything that would justify anyone flaming him. Let's not forget that most of the drama we had with Sam this time wasn't because of something he said while he was here (this time) - it was the very principle of Sam himself, his reputation and his beliefs. If we're going to let someone back in to the guild for a reason other than a) drama or b) poking fun, and we're going to give him a second chance, I think it'd be a good idea to wipe clean what we think of them and their reputation and actually give them that second chance.

Unless it's Pingu. He can just ******** right off.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:14 pm


I think maybe, if you want EVERYONE to wipe a clean slate and think of someone as if they've never known them, you should allow every guild member have a say whether or not we want said person back in the guild. Kinda ******** up when the mods get together and let someone in the guild without addressing the members.


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stupidkid23

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:25 pm


Mitsh
Before we forget Lobo's point -

Everyone was really quick to jump on Sam while he was here; many of us didn't even give him the second (third, fourth, fifth) chance that Lobo wanted us to, and instead patiently waited for him to step out of line. Yes, he's lied before, and it was a colossal lie. He may have said some silly things, including misspelling his own religion, which admitedly made me giggle like a four year old. He's said some pretty fluffy s**t - hell, his guild makes me wince with the fluffiness - but in the time he was here, it seemed like he barely posted anything that would justify anyone flaming him. Let's not forget that most of the drama we had with Sam this time wasn't because of something he said while he was here (this time) - it was the very principle of Sam himself, his reputation and his beliefs. If we're going to let someone back in to the guild for a reason other than a) drama or b) poking fun, and we're going to give him a second chance, I think it'd be a good idea to wipe clean what we think of them and their reputation and actually give them that second chance.

Unless it's Pingu. He can just ******** right off.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:32 pm


a**l Jesus
I think maybe, if you want EVERYONE to wipe a clean slate and think of someone as if they've never known them, you should allow every guild member have a say whether or not we want said person back in the guild. Kinda ******** up when the mods get together and let someone in the guild without addressing the members.


Do it

I suggest you make a voting thread for Sam. A hypothetical letting Sam back in. Letting Pingu back. Letting Psychelapis in.


This guild is for the members, right? Well, why don't the members do something? Some suggesting? I ask for suggestions, I get Jack and s**t, but Jack tends to be out of town.

If Sam WAS such a problem, why wasn't there a "Let's ban Sam, he's a threat to our community" thread?


Psychelapis, Sinesthera, AND PINGU are ALL NOT BANNED. All of them can come back ANY time they want to and post.
Why are they not banned? All of them claim to be insta-flamed upon setting foot inside the MPRILC.


I suggest you make some petition/poll threads, man. 4rlz neutral

stupidkid23



josiv


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:43 pm


LoBo_23
a**l Jesus
I think maybe, if you want EVERYONE to wipe a clean slate and think of someone as if they've never known them, you should allow every guild member have a say whether or not we want said person back in the guild. Kinda ******** up when the mods get together and let someone in the guild without addressing the members.


Do it

I suggest you make a voting thread for Sam. A hypothetical letting Sam back in. Letting Pingu back. Letting Psychelapis in.


This guild is for the members, right? Well, why don't the members do something? Some suggesting? I ask for suggestions, I get Jack and s**t, but Jack tends to be out of town.

If Sam WAS such a problem, why wasn't there a "Let's ban Sam, he's a threat to our community" thread?


Psychelapis, Sinesthera, AND PINGU are ALL NOT BANNED. All of them can come back ANY time they want to and post.
Why are they not banned? All of them claim to be insta-flamed upon setting foot inside the MPRILC.


I suggest you make some petition/poll threads, man. 4rlz neutral

I did say something, I was told to chill and that he was let in for a good reason. You all seemed to be pretty set on your decision, I didn't want to make more drama.

Those people may be flamed, but I assure its usually for a good reason. I've never come upon anyone attacking any other member without reason, so it's their problem if they feel like the victim. Except maybe me, I tend to blow up, and I do my best not to.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 6:13 pm


LoBo_23
a**l Jesus
I think maybe, if you want EVERYONE to wipe a clean slate and think of someone as if they've never known them, you should allow every guild member have a say whether or not we want said person back in the guild. Kinda ******** up when the mods get together and let someone in the guild without addressing the members.


Do it

I suggest you make a voting thread for Sam. A hypothetical letting Sam back in. Letting Pingu back. Letting Psychelapis in.


This guild is for the members, right? Well, why don't the members do something? Some suggesting? I ask for suggestions, I get Jack and s**t, but Jack tends to be out of town.

If Sam WAS such a problem, why wasn't there a "Let's ban Sam, he's a threat to our community" thread?


Psychelapis, Sinesthera, AND PINGU are ALL NOT BANNED. All of them can come back ANY time they want to and post.
Why are they not banned? All of them claim to be insta-flamed upon setting foot inside the MPRILC.


I suggest you make some petition/poll threads, man. 4rlz neutral


To be fair, we did let Sam in without asking the members first, which I think was a mistake on our part. I totally agree with AJ that we should address the members before making our decision.

Second up, I'm not sure members would be so inclined to start up a voting thread since they don't the ability to, say, let people back in. They can take the petition to the mods, sure, but I'm not sure many folk will have considered that. In any case, this entire scenario raises an interesting point about the guildmembers level of involvement with the guild itself. >.>

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:13 pm


My thoughts on all of this: I don't care who is in the guild. The only person I ever had major issue with was Baron von Turkeypants and that is because I perceived him to be nothing more than a condescending debunker. If he was to come back tomorrow and post I wouldn't care, because I would not reply to him if I knew it was only going to start trouble and I would just ignore him.

Same thing with all of you. I've seen some s**t in these forums that I feel like I should just stand up and go "your assumptions are wrong" but I have no grounds to say that, because just because someone is challenging my beliefs, that doesn't mean I have to defend them and just because they're my beliefs doesn't mean that they apply to anyone else. Fortunately for me and my beliefs, your belief is not required.

This is honestly my favorite guild because we have fun and we actually discuss things with a good amount of literacy and maturity. When I notice s**t getting too heated, I just tend to make nonsensical posts to lighten the mood or I just simply lurk. I think everyone should just chill the ******** out and not be so hostile about stuff. I see some bullshit floating around here sometimes and I'll ask a question or suggest a logical, physical reason for why it happened instead of a dark fairy queen of the astral plane.

I think we should all just realize that we're in this together and that attacking people says quite a bit about who *you* are as a person instead of who the other person is. I will say that if you're going to claim someone is full of s**t, provide some kind of source to dispute their claim; a book, a website, even ********. Just something. Because if we don't have that, we just have a bunch of people arguing over something unverifiable, which makes us all retarded.

My two pennies.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:42 pm


At this point, there was never any benefit in letting Sam back in. There's nothing he could have done for the guild, since he would only enslave those who didn't know him previously and be hated by the members who knew him. He could only hurt it.

He got way to upset with the whole "reality" thing, and just ended up setting everyone off. I mean, that discussion could have been enlightening and intellectually stimulating. It was, for a time. Even though it was slightly off-topic, it didn't really matter. It was Sam who came in and decided to flip out and b***h at people for not being on topic. So what? Who cares if it's not on topic? It's like that great math professor you get who loves to talk about literature and philosophy and even though it has nothing to do with math, you love it. You love it because it's not the typical number theory s**t you get every day.

I controlled myself more than I should have when dealing with Sam. I mean, several times I was to the point where I just really wanted to throw s**t. I wanted to see something shatter. But, I didn't get to see that. Instead, I cleaned my room. All this money for therapy, and cleaning is what calms me down. But it's people like Sam that make me need something in the first place. People who are incapable of intelligent thought. People who b***h and moan and pretend like the rest of the world is in a vat, and they're the evil genius puppeteer.

I know he's your friend, LoBo. I know he was friends with several people in this guild. But I know people like that, they take and take from other people and give the illusion of caring, but deep down they don't care. They can't care. They'd be ok if they just kept to themselves. I wouldn't care. But they're leeches and they need to feed on people who need to be fed on.

You can be pissed at me, LoBo. I don't give a damn. You can demote me, ban me, do what ever the ******** you want. I don't care. You're a friend, and I don't like to see you being used like that. I care about the guild, and I don't like to see it like this because of one person.

There were other things going on to exacerbate the situation. Just like there are other things in my life exacerbating the situation. The combination ripped the whole damn guild apart.

s**t. I need to clean something. I'll probably come back later to make a more coherent and calm post. Maybe.

DrasBrisingr


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:54 am


I think other people have pretty much covered anything I'd want to say.

I wish cleaning worked for me Dras. The only thing that works for me is extensive meditation or a clearing my mind by working through qi gong sequences.
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