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 Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 11:00 pm
Lethkhar Priestley Lethkhar GuardianAngel44 He gave us a choice to disobey him or not. If he hadn't, and we had to worship God, then our love for him wouldn't mean very much. It doesn't really mean very much now, does it? "LOVE ME OR BURN IN HELL!!! twisted " "Okay! Okay! crying "
If you don't believe the human soul is everlasting, there's little point in trying to get you to make sense of the fact that God wants to make a huge bonfire out of the spoiled creation and start afresh. The only reason He hasn't done so is because He's pushing back the time out of hope for humanity.So you think I'm "spoiled creation"? You know, it may be that mindset that makes it impossible for us to see each other eye-to-eye. How do you "love" "spoiled creation"? Kinda like how your parents love you, even though you've broken their rules, and disobeyed them. I've disobeyed my parents before. I actually do it alot sweatdrop . And they still love me.
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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 8:12 am
Lethkhar GuardianAngel44 Lethkhar GuardianAngel44 He gave us a choice to disobey him or not. If he hadn't, and we had to worship God, then our love for him wouldn't mean very much. It doesn't really mean very much now, does it? "LOVE ME OR BURN IN HELL!!! twisted " "Okay! Okay! crying " It saddens me that you think God is like that. It's more like this: "You screwed up the first time. Because I love you, I will give you a second chance." "Thank you, God." You're right. I'm being subjective. Objectively: "Your great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandparents screwed up, so I'm going to burn you all in Hell for the rest of eternity. Of course, on the off-chance that you happen to choose the right religion and stick with it then you will be spared from that horrible punishment. razz " "Gee, thanks... stare " Pessimist.
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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 8:26 am
GuardianAngel44 Lethkhar GuardianAngel44 Lethkhar GuardianAngel44 He gave us a choice to disobey him or not. If he hadn't, and we had to worship God, then our love for him wouldn't mean very much. It doesn't really mean very much now, does it? "LOVE ME OR BURN IN HELL!!! twisted " "Okay! Okay! crying " It saddens me that you think God is like that. It's more like this: "You screwed up the first time. Because I love you, I will give you a second chance." "Thank you, God." You're right. I'm being subjective. Objectively: "Your great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandparents screwed up, so I'm going to burn you all in Hell for the rest of eternity. Of course, on the off-chance that you happen to choose the right religion and stick with it then you will be spared from that horrible punishment. razz " "Gee, thanks... stare " Pessimist. Wait, you didn't answer that, not properly. Why should we be punished for something Adam and Eve did? I'm not denying I've sinned, but nothing truly terrible. I'm sorry for all I've done wrong, but do I honestly deserve to go to hell for it? OK, so I'm Christian, but what if I wasn't? Most people are their religion because they were born into it, so will God honestly send a Muslim child to hell because they were born into a Muslim family?
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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 4:01 pm
Trix Starlight GuardianAngel44 Lethkhar GuardianAngel44 Lethkhar GuardianAngel44 He gave us a choice to disobey him or not. If he hadn't, and we had to worship God, then our love for him wouldn't mean very much. It doesn't really mean very much now, does it? "LOVE ME OR BURN IN HELL!!! twisted " "Okay! Okay! crying " It saddens me that you think God is like that. It's more like this: "You screwed up the first time. Because I love you, I will give you a second chance." "Thank you, God." You're right. I'm being subjective. Objectively: "Your great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandparents screwed up, so I'm going to burn you all in Hell for the rest of eternity. Of course, on the off-chance that you happen to choose the right religion and stick with it then you will be spared from that horrible punishment. razz " "Gee, thanks... stare " Pessimist. Wait, you didn't answer that, not properly. Why should we be punished for something Adam and Eve did? I'm not denying I've sinned, but nothing truly terrible. I'm sorry for all I've done wrong, but do I honestly deserve to go to hell for it? OK, so I'm Christian, but what if I wasn't? Most people are their religion because they were born into it, so will God honestly send a Muslim child to hell because they were born into a Muslim family?
However, look at it this way: The circumstances into which you were born were not under your control nor did you have any choice in the matter. People today are living with the consequences of decisions made by people who came before them because of the nature of the world in which we live: linear, cause and effect, action and reaction.
Everything was fine between God and man before the fall. God promised that man would die if he ate from the tree of good and evil. As sure as His word, God kept that promise for all mankind, saying further that man had to work the ground to survive and would return to the ground of which he was made. Sure, God could have wiped us out if He wanted but it's obvious that there's a lesson which must be learnt and a responsibility that must be shared by all mankind, from the first to the last. Nevertheless, God will not allow the world with all its imperfections to exist forever. Even scienctific calculations predict the Earth's destruction by fire (that is, solar expansion) an inevitability, even if it's predicted to be far in the future. Our bodies are also temporary, be it on a far shorter scale.
If our bodies return to dust in the ground and the Earth is destroyed, what of our souls? That is the purpose of the resurrection and the judgment.
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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 4:23 pm
masumi5 Lethkhar GuardianAngel44 Lethkhar GuardianAngel44 He gave us a choice to disobey him or not. If he hadn't, and we had to worship God, then our love for him wouldn't mean very much. It doesn't really mean very much now, does it? "LOVE ME OR BURN IN HELL!!! twisted " "Okay! Okay! crying " It saddens me that you think God is like that. It's more like this: "You screwed up the first time. Because I love you, I will give you a second chance." "Thank you, God." You're right. I'm being subjective. Objectively: "Your great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandparents screwed up, so I'm going to burn you all in Hell for the rest of eternity. Of course, on the off-chance that you happen to choose the right religion and stick with it then you will be spared from that horrible punishment. razz " "Gee, thanks... stare " So, you've NEVER told a lie, or cheated on a test? Have you never disobeyed your parents(wonder what happened then wink ), or stolen something, even a small eraser? I'm not arguing for my soul, though I'm touched that you would consider it.
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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 4:24 pm
masumi5 Lethkhar Priestley Lethkhar GuardianAngel44 He gave us a choice to disobey him or not. If he hadn't, and we had to worship God, then our love for him wouldn't mean very much. It doesn't really mean very much now, does it? "LOVE ME OR BURN IN HELL!!! twisted " "Okay! Okay! crying "
If you don't believe the human soul is everlasting, there's little point in trying to get you to make sense of the fact that God wants to make a huge bonfire out of the spoiled creation and start afresh. The only reason He hasn't done so is because He's pushing back the time out of hope for humanity.So you think I'm "spoiled creation"? You know, it may be that mindset that makes it impossible for us to see each other eye-to-eye. How do you "love" "spoiled creation"? Kinda like how your parents love you, even though you've broken their rules, and disobeyed them. I've disobeyed my parents before. I actually do it alot sweatdrop . And they still love me. And have your parents ever called you "spoiled creation"? Mine haven't...
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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 4:29 pm
Priestley Trix Starlight GuardianAngel44 Lethkhar GuardianAngel44 It saddens me that you think God is like that. It's more like this: "You screwed up the first time. Because I love you, I will give you a second chance." "Thank you, God." You're right. I'm being subjective. Objectively: "Your great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandparents screwed up, so I'm going to burn you all in Hell for the rest of eternity. Of course, on the off-chance that you happen to choose the right religion and stick with it then you will be spared from that horrible punishment. razz " "Gee, thanks... stare " Pessimist. Wait, you didn't answer that, not properly. Why should we be punished for something Adam and Eve did? I'm not denying I've sinned, but nothing truly terrible. I'm sorry for all I've done wrong, but do I honestly deserve to go to hell for it? OK, so I'm Christian, but what if I wasn't? Most people are their religion because they were born into it, so will God honestly send a Muslim child to hell because they were born into a Muslim family?
However, look at it this way: The circumstances into which you were born were not under your control nor did you have any choice in the matter. People today are living with the consequences of decisions made by people who came before them because of the nature of the world in which we live: linear, cause and effect, action and reaction.
Everything was fine between God and man before the fall. God promised that man would die if he ate from the tree of good and evil. As sure as His word, God kept that promise for all mankind, saying further that man had to work the ground to survive and would return to the ground of which he was made. Sure, God could have wiped us out if He wanted but it's obvious that there's a lesson which must be learnt and a responsibility that must be shared by all mankind, from the first to the last. Nevertheless, God will not allow the world with all its imperfections to exist forever. Even scienctific calculations predict the Earth's destruction by fire (that is, solar expansion) an inevitability, even if it's predicted to be far in the future. Our bodies are also temporary, be it on a far shorter scale.
If our bodies return to dust in the ground and the Earth is destroyed, what of our souls? That is the purpose of the resurrection and the judgment.I don't think you answered her question... neutral
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Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 12:52 am
Lethkhar Priestley Trix Starlight GuardianAngel44 Lethkhar GuardianAngel44 It saddens me that you think God is like that. It's more like this: "You screwed up the first time. Because I love you, I will give you a second chance." "Thank you, God." You're right. I'm being subjective. Objectively: "Your great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandparents screwed up, so I'm going to burn you all in Hell for the rest of eternity. Of course, on the off-chance that you happen to choose the right religion and stick with it then you will be spared from that horrible punishment. razz " "Gee, thanks... stare " Pessimist. Wait, you didn't answer that, not properly. Why should we be punished for something Adam and Eve did? I'm not denying I've sinned, but nothing truly terrible. I'm sorry for all I've done wrong, but do I honestly deserve to go to hell for it? OK, so I'm Christian, but what if I wasn't? Most people are their religion because they were born into it, so will God honestly send a Muslim child to hell because they were born into a Muslim family?
However, look at it this way: The circumstances into which you were born were not under your control nor did you have any choice in the matter. People today are living with the consequences of decisions made by people who came before them because of the nature of the world in which we live: linear, cause and effect, action and reaction.
Everything was fine between God and man before the fall. God promised that man would die if he ate from the tree of good and evil. As sure as His word, God kept that promise for all mankind, saying further that man had to work the ground to survive and would return to the ground of which he was made. Sure, God could have wiped us out if He wanted but it's obvious that there's a lesson which must be learnt and a responsibility that must be shared by all mankind, from the first to the last. Nevertheless, God will not allow the world with all its imperfections to exist forever. Even scienctific calculations predict the Earth's destruction by fire (that is, solar expansion) an inevitability, even if it's predicted to be far in the future. Our bodies are also temporary, be it on a far shorter scale.
If our bodies return to dust in the ground and the Earth is destroyed, what of our souls? That is the purpose of the resurrection and the judgment.I don't think you answered her question... neutral
It's like a son or daughter inheriting a disease from one of their parents and then that son or daughter asking his/her parent "why did you give me this disease?" It's not the parents' fault, nor is it the child's fault, it's the circumstances in which the family find themselves.
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Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 1:26 pm
Priestley Lethkhar Priestley Trix Starlight Wait, you didn't answer that, not properly. Why should we be punished for something Adam and Eve did? I'm not denying I've sinned, but nothing truly terrible. I'm sorry for all I've done wrong, but do I honestly deserve to go to hell for it? OK, so I'm Christian, but what if I wasn't? Most people are their religion because they were born into it, so will God honestly send a Muslim child to hell because they were born into a Muslim family?
However, look at it this way: The circumstances into which you were born were not under your control nor did you have any choice in the matter. People today are living with the consequences of decisions made by people who came before them because of the nature of the world in which we live: linear, cause and effect, action and reaction.
Everything was fine between God and man before the fall. God promised that man would die if he ate from the tree of good and evil. As sure as His word, God kept that promise for all mankind, saying further that man had to work the ground to survive and would return to the ground of which he was made. Sure, God could have wiped us out if He wanted but it's obvious that there's a lesson which must be learnt and a responsibility that must be shared by all mankind, from the first to the last. Nevertheless, God will not allow the world with all its imperfections to exist forever. Even scienctific calculations predict the Earth's destruction by fire (that is, solar expansion) an inevitability, even if it's predicted to be far in the future. Our bodies are also temporary, be it on a far shorter scale.
If our bodies return to dust in the ground and the Earth is destroyed, what of our souls? That is the purpose of the resurrection and the judgment.I don't think you answered her question... neutral
It's like a son or daughter inheriting a disease from one of their parents and then that son or daughter asking his/her parent "why did you give me this disease?" It's not the parents' fault, nor is it the child's fault, it's the circumstances in which the family find themselves.And the question is why the "disease" is inheritable if it is a punishment for the sins of only two people. You did not answer the question. And you didn't really answer the second part concerning other religions, either. You just rambled about Eden and Judgement Day.
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 4:46 am
Priestley Lethkhar Priestley Trix Starlight Wait, you didn't answer that, not properly. Why should we be punished for something Adam and Eve did? I'm not denying I've sinned, but nothing truly terrible. I'm sorry for all I've done wrong, but do I honestly deserve to go to hell for it? OK, so I'm Christian, but what if I wasn't? Most people are their religion because they were born into it, so will God honestly send a Muslim child to hell because they were born into a Muslim family?
However, look at it this way: The circumstances into which you were born were not under your control nor did you have any choice in the matter. People today are living with the consequences of decisions made by people who came before them because of the nature of the world in which we live: linear, cause and effect, action and reaction.
Everything was fine between God and man before the fall. God promised that man would die if he ate from the tree of good and evil. As sure as His word, God kept that promise for all mankind, saying further that man had to work the ground to survive and would return to the ground of which he was made. Sure, God could have wiped us out if He wanted but it's obvious that there's a lesson which must be learnt and a responsibility that must be shared by all mankind, from the first to the last. Nevertheless, God will not allow the world with all its imperfections to exist forever. Even scienctific calculations predict the Earth's destruction by fire (that is, solar expansion) an inevitability, even if it's predicted to be far in the future. Our bodies are also temporary, be it on a far shorter scale.
If our bodies return to dust in the ground and the Earth is destroyed, what of our souls? That is the purpose of the resurrection and the judgment.I don't think you answered her question... neutral
It's like a son or daughter inheriting a disease from one of their parents and then that son or daughter asking his/her parent "why did you give me this disease?" It's not the parents' fault, nor is it the child's fault, it's the circumstances in which the family find themselves.Jesus said the God does not punish children for the sins of their parents.
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 6:42 am
Trix Starlight Priestley Lethkhar Priestley Trix Starlight Wait, you didn't answer that, not properly. Why should we be punished for something Adam and Eve did? I'm not denying I've sinned, but nothing truly terrible. I'm sorry for all I've done wrong, but do I honestly deserve to go to hell for it? OK, so I'm Christian, but what if I wasn't? Most people are their religion because they were born into it, so will God honestly send a Muslim child to hell because they were born into a Muslim family?
However, look at it this way: The circumstances into which you were born were not under your control nor did you have any choice in the matter. People today are living with the consequences of decisions made by people who came before them because of the nature of the world in which we live: linear, cause and effect, action and reaction.
Everything was fine between God and man before the fall. God promised that man would die if he ate from the tree of good and evil. As sure as His word, God kept that promise for all mankind, saying further that man had to work the ground to survive and would return to the ground of which he was made. Sure, God could have wiped us out if He wanted but it's obvious that there's a lesson which must be learnt and a responsibility that must be shared by all mankind, from the first to the last. Nevertheless, God will not allow the world with all its imperfections to exist forever. Even scienctific calculations predict the Earth's destruction by fire (that is, solar expansion) an inevitability, even if it's predicted to be far in the future. Our bodies are also temporary, be it on a far shorter scale.
If our bodies return to dust in the ground and the Earth is destroyed, what of our souls? That is the purpose of the resurrection and the judgment.I don't think you answered her question... neutral
It's like a son or daughter inheriting a disease from one of their parents and then that son or daughter asking his/her parent "why did you give me this disease?" It's not the parents' fault, nor is it the child's fault, it's the circumstances in which the family find themselves.Jesus said the God does not punish children for the sins of their parents. Now he doesn't. Before Jesus, He did. He killed a whole entire family, cause ONE guy stole a few things (I think a vase, some coins, and a few other things).
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:45 am
Squireof the son Trix Starlight Priestley Lethkhar Priestley To answer your question about religions, circumstances and such, Jesus said that all things will be forgiven men except blasphemy against the Holy Spirit (Mark 3:28-29).
However, look at it this way: The circumstances into which you were born were not under your control nor did you have any choice in the matter. People today are living with the consequences of decisions made by people who came before them because of the nature of the world in which we live: linear, cause and effect, action and reaction.
Everything was fine between God and man before the fall. God promised that man would die if he ate from the tree of good and evil. As sure as His word, God kept that promise for all mankind, saying further that man had to work the ground to survive and would return to the ground of which he was made. Sure, God could have wiped us out if He wanted but it's obvious that there's a lesson which must be learnt and a responsibility that must be shared by all mankind, from the first to the last. Nevertheless, God will not allow the world with all its imperfections to exist forever. Even scienctific calculations predict the Earth's destruction by fire (that is, solar expansion) an inevitability, even if it's predicted to be far in the future. Our bodies are also temporary, be it on a far shorter scale.
If our bodies return to dust in the ground and the Earth is destroyed, what of our souls? That is the purpose of the resurrection and the judgment. I don't think you answered her question... neutral
It's like a son or daughter inheriting a disease from one of their parents and then that son or daughter asking his/her parent "why did you give me this disease?" It's not the parents' fault, nor is it the child's fault, it's the circumstances in which the family find themselves.Jesus said the God does not punish children for the sins of their parents. Now he doesn't. Before Jesus, He did. He killed a whole entire family, cause ONE guy stole a few things (I think a vase, some coins, and a few other things). And that's OK?
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 3:41 pm
GuardianAngel44 Lethkhar GuardianAngel44 Lethkhar GuardianAngel44 He gave us a choice to disobey him or not. If he hadn't, and we had to worship God, then our love for him wouldn't mean very much. It doesn't really mean very much now, does it? "LOVE ME OR BURN IN HELL!!! twisted " "Okay! Okay! crying " It saddens me that you think God is like that. It's more like this: "You screwed up the first time. Because I love you, I will give you a second chance." "Thank you, God." You're right. I'm being subjective. Objectively: "Your great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandparents screwed up, so I'm going to burn you all in Hell for the rest of eternity. Of course, on the off-chance that you happen to choose the right religion and stick with it then you will be spared from that horrible punishment. razz " "Gee, thanks... stare " Pessimist. It's called criticism, my friend. wink
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:53 am
Lethkhar GuardianAngel44 Lethkhar GuardianAngel44 Lethkhar GuardianAngel44 He gave us a choice to disobey him or not. If he hadn't, and we had to worship God, then our love for him wouldn't mean very much. It doesn't really mean very much now, does it? "LOVE ME OR BURN IN HELL!!! twisted " "Okay! Okay! crying " It saddens me that you think God is like that. It's more like this: "You screwed up the first time. Because I love you, I will give you a second chance." "Thank you, God." You're right. I'm being subjective. Objectively: "Your great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandparents screwed up, so I'm going to burn you all in Hell for the rest of eternity. Of course, on the off-chance that you happen to choose the right religion and stick with it then you will be spared from that horrible punishment. razz " "Gee, thanks... stare " Pessimist. It's called criticism, my friend. wink Very fair criticism.
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:37 am
Trix Starlight Squireof the son Trix Starlight Priestley Lethkhar Priestley To answer your question about religions, circumstances and such, Jesus said that all things will be forgiven men except blasphemy against the Holy Spirit (Mark 3:28-29).
However, look at it this way: The circumstances into which you were born were not under your control nor did you have any choice in the matter. People today are living with the consequences of decisions made by people who came before them because of the nature of the world in which we live: linear, cause and effect, action and reaction.
Everything was fine between God and man before the fall. God promised that man would die if he ate from the tree of good and evil. As sure as His word, God kept that promise for all mankind, saying further that man had to work the ground to survive and would return to the ground of which he was made. Sure, God could have wiped us out if He wanted but it's obvious that there's a lesson which must be learnt and a responsibility that must be shared by all mankind, from the first to the last. Nevertheless, God will not allow the world with all its imperfections to exist forever. Even scienctific calculations predict the Earth's destruction by fire (that is, solar expansion) an inevitability, even if it's predicted to be far in the future. Our bodies are also temporary, be it on a far shorter scale.
If our bodies return to dust in the ground and the Earth is destroyed, what of our souls? That is the purpose of the resurrection and the judgment. I don't think you answered her question... neutral
It's like a son or daughter inheriting a disease from one of their parents and then that son or daughter asking his/her parent "why did you give me this disease?" It's not the parents' fault, nor is it the child's fault, it's the circumstances in which the family find themselves.Jesus said the God does not punish children for the sins of their parents. Now he doesn't. Before Jesus, He did. He killed a whole entire family, cause ONE guy stole a few things (I think a vase, some coins, and a few other things). And that's OK? I don't know. I have to reread it, and figure out all the details. I believe if God did it, then yes. No matter how unfair from our eyes.
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