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 Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 6:59 am
All I am saying, in at least my area, is that Wii consoles are not not on shelves due to high demand, but to shortages.
Every store around me gets 3-7 Wii consoles a month. Its not like every single store around me stocks 600 Wiis a week and they all sell out.
IMO, the Wii is well liked, but the main reason for inability to get one is shortages, demand coming in second.
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 10:25 am
Ace Paladin All I am saying, in at least my area, is that Wii consoles are not not on shelves due to high demand, but to shortages.
Every store around me gets 3-7 Wii consoles a month. Its not like every single store around me stocks 600 Wiis a week and they all sell out.
IMO, the Wii is well liked, but the main reason for inability to get one is shortages, demand coming in second. It is the high demand. Every time I'm in there someone comes in asking for it. They get 3-7 Wiis per week or when a shipment comes in which may be twice a week when possible so it may be double. Wal-mart, Circuit City, Target, K-Mart, Toys R Us, etc get around 15 per shipment and that may be once or twice a week. I got my Wii in a shipment of 15. Yesterday I was in the mall before class and 18 Wiis came in while I was there and were sold to those who already had tickets given to them when the store opened an hour earlier. They started out with 3-7 but it got to around 10 by the time I got mine in March and now it's at 15-18 per shipment. Nintendo World in NYC gets large shipments almost daily and they all sell out.
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 10:48 am
HistoryWak Ace Paladin All I am saying, in at least my area, is that Wii consoles are not not on shelves due to high demand, but to shortages.
Every store around me gets 3-7 Wii consoles a month. Its not like every single store around me stocks 600 Wiis a week and they all sell out.
IMO, the Wii is well liked, but the main reason for inability to get one is shortages, demand coming in second. It is the high demand. Every time I'm in there someone comes in asking for it. They get 3-7 Wiis per week or when a shipment comes in which may be twice a week when possible so it may be double. Wal-mart, Circuit City, Target, K-Mart, Toys R Us, etc get around 15 per shipment and that may be once or twice a week. I got my Wii in a shipment of 15. Yesterday I was in the mall before class and 18 Wiis came in while I was there and were sold to those who already had tickets given to them when the store opened an hour earlier. They started out with 3-7 but it got to around 10 by the time I got mine in March and now it's at 15-18 per shipment. Nintendo World in NYC gets large shipments almost daily and they all sell out. Also take into account that shortages aren't all a manufacturers fault. This shortage is triggered by high demand, and the shortage -- in some ways -- increases demand even more. The only thing I know for sure is that it isn't Nintendo's fault. They're not trying to cause a shortage because they could sell the extra consoles they make *if they could make them*.
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 10:51 am
Regarding shipments of the Wii, My store gets them in only once every couple of weeks, however, we get about 60-100 of them in...
They last a day or two most of them time, except for now where people are getting rabid and actually fighting for them... I won $20 on the last fight.
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 1:17 pm
If that's true, Viking, then it can't be shortages as much as demand.
In the end, Ace, the shortages are the reason why there are never Wiis. But the shortages are caused by demand. It's basically the cycle of supply and demand. An increase in demand causes a decrease in supply, and a decrease in supply causes an increase in demand. This huge increase in demand is something Nintendo can't keep up with because of their losses in the past two generations.
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 5:51 pm
Part-Time Viking Regarding shipments of the Wii, My store gets them in only once every couple of weeks, however, we get about 60-100 of them in... They last a day or two most of them time, except for now where people are getting rabid and actually fighting for them... I won $20 on the last fight. Please, Viking, record that. I wish to see people fighting over a Nintendo Wii. It will give me great pleasure.
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:32 pm
tangocat777 Part-Time Viking Regarding shipments of the Wii, My store gets them in only once every couple of weeks, however, we get about 60-100 of them in... They last a day or two most of them time, except for now where people are getting rabid and actually fighting for them... I won $20 on the last fight. Please, Viking, record that. I wish to see people fighting over a Nintendo Wii. It will give me great pleasure.
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:22 pm
Daxelman tangocat777 Part-Time Viking Regarding shipments of the Wii, My store gets them in only once every couple of weeks, however, we get about 60-100 of them in... They last a day or two most of them time, except for now where people are getting rabid and actually fighting for them... I won $20 on the last fight. Please, Viking, record that. I wish to see people fighting over a Nintendo Wii. It will give me great pleasure.
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 7:15 pm
The shortages are half Nintendo's fault. The machine isn't that expensive to build yet no new factories to produce them are going up.
The other half could be blamed on demand. The higher population areas see bigger shipments. I've actually seen the holiday shipments to Hawaii (business remains anonymous though anyone whom has paid attention to any of my posts should know.)
There were only about 50 boxes in one can of Wiis to be spread out amongst the entire island of Oahu in the first shipment. More nunchucks arrived than anything else. Around 120 or so boxes. There were no shipments to Maui, Molokai, Big Island, or Kauai. All of it was spread across Oahu between Best Buys and Gamestops. Each can, depending on the person that loaded them can hold about 350 to 450 boxes of varying sizes. We only needed two trucks to deliver them.
In the same amount of time I've seen nearly three times as many shipments from Microsoft and Sony. The volume of each shipment making the Wii shipments look like pennies amongst bills. I've seen more PS2 Rockband bundles come in on one day for Gamestop versus both Christmas Wii shipments.
On a funny note, the Wii shipments always arrive on Thursdays here.
Certainly it's not entirely demand, though at the very least half is. Nintendo's lacking initiative to build more factories, or even outsource Wii production is silly and does play a part in it.
The lack of supply is fanning the flames of demand though. That much can be stated as fact. That shortage is partially hamstrung by the fact that Nintendo, despite their capital, hasn't opened anymore production factories. You could say it's completely high demand but 3 to 7 a week in a country with 300 million residents is definitely not covering much.
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 8:36 pm
The Death Blues Mix The shortages are half Nintendo's fault. The machine isn't that expensive to build yet no new factories to produce them are going up.
The other half could be blamed on demand. The higher population areas see bigger shipments. I've actually seen the holiday shipments to Hawaii (business remains anonymous though anyone whom has paid attention to any of my posts should know.)
There were only about 50 boxes in one can of Wiis to be spread out amongst the entire island of Oahu in the first shipment. More nunchucks arrived than anything else. Around 120 or so boxes. There were no shipments to Maui, Molokai, Big Island, or Kauai. All of it was spread across Oahu between Best Buys and Gamestops. Each can, depending on the person that loaded them can hold about 350 to 450 boxes of varying sizes. We only needed two trucks to deliver them.
In the same amount of time I've seen nearly three times as many shipments from Microsoft and Sony. The volume of each shipment making the Wii shipments look like pennies amongst bills. I've seen more PS2 Rockband bundles come in on one day for Gamestop versus both Christmas Wii shipments.
On a funny note, the Wii shipments always arrive on Thursdays here.
Certainly it's not entirely demand, though at the very least half is. Nintendo's lacking initiative to build more factories, or even outsource Wii production is silly and does play a part in it.
The lack of supply is fanning the flames of demand though. That much can be stated as fact. That shortage is partially hamstrung by the fact that Nintendo, despite their capital, hasn't opened anymore production factories. You could say it's completely high demand but 3 to 7 a week in a country with 300 million residents is definitely not covering much. The lack of supply is fanning the flames of demand? I don't think so. That can't be stated as fact. Keep in mind that Real Estate needs to be bought to build factories and we all know how the US Real Estate market is right now. Plus we don't know how the Real Estate market is elsewhere. Stores in this area are getting about 10-15 per week depending on location. Gamestop just started a holiday reservation for Wiis yesterday (temporary) where they can be reserved and you'll be guaranteed to have one by Jan. 25th. Plus with Sony/Microsoft distribution they are at least triple the size of Nintendo and have at least triple the distribution capabilities. Nintendo found themselves unprepared for the demand they didn't expect and got and that resulted in the shortages. Now there are increased shipments and gradually more are becoming available but nonetheless whatever comes in still sells fast. It is more than 3-7 now. Gamestops are getting around 18 per shipment now. It differs per store.
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Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 12:47 am
HistoryWak The lack of supply is fanning the flames of demand? I don't think so. That can't be stated as fact. Keep in mind that Real Estate needs to be bought to build factories and we all know how the US Real Estate market is right now. Plus we don't know how the Real Estate market is elsewhere. Stores in this area are getting about 10-15 per week depending on location. Gamestop just started a holiday reservation for Wiis yesterday (temporary) where they can be reserved and you'll be guaranteed to have one by Jan. 25th. Plus with Sony/Microsoft distribution they are at least triple the size of Nintendo and have at least triple the distribution capabilities. Nintendo found themselves unprepared for the demand they didn't expect and got and that resulted in the shortages. Now there are increased shipments and gradually more are becoming available but nonetheless whatever comes in still sells fast. It is more than 3-7 now. Gamestops are getting around 18 per shipment now. It differs per store.
There is also the fact that Nintendo has the option to outsource production. Most companies do so. That won't hurt the overall quality line as seen in Sony and Samsung's HDTV lines; and yes the lack of supply is increasing demand. People want what they're told they can't have especially when it's a popular item.
With their net worth and quarterly income post DS(and now Wii) Nintendo is more than capable of churning out more than 1.8 million Wiis.
If the company is poised to lose money because they can't meet demand yet won't take a temporary loss to just outsource production, then it is their own fault. I can understand being unprepared with in the first two quarters but Reggie and such must not be doing their jobs. They've had time, they've the means to do so.
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Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 7:13 am
The Death Blues Mix HistoryWak The lack of supply is fanning the flames of demand? I don't think so. That can't be stated as fact. Keep in mind that Real Estate needs to be bought to build factories and we all know how the US Real Estate market is right now. Plus we don't know how the Real Estate market is elsewhere. Stores in this area are getting about 10-15 per week depending on location. Gamestop just started a holiday reservation for Wiis yesterday (temporary) where they can be reserved and you'll be guaranteed to have one by Jan. 25th. Plus with Sony/Microsoft distribution they are at least triple the size of Nintendo and have at least triple the distribution capabilities. Nintendo found themselves unprepared for the demand they didn't expect and got and that resulted in the shortages. Now there are increased shipments and gradually more are becoming available but nonetheless whatever comes in still sells fast. It is more than 3-7 now. Gamestops are getting around 18 per shipment now. It differs per store.
There is also the fact that Nintendo has the option to outsource production. Most companies do so. That won't hurt the overall quality line as seen in Sony and Samsung's HDTV lines; and yes the lack of supply is increasing demand. People want what they're told they can't have especially when it's a popular item.
With their net worth and quarterly income post DS(and now Wii) Nintendo is more than capable of churning out more than 1.8 million Wiis.
If the company is poised to lose money because they can't meet demand yet won't take a temporary loss to just outsource production, then it is their own fault. I can understand being unprepared with in the first two quarters but Reggie and such must not be doing their jobs. They've had time, they've the means to do so.The shipments are larger than before which was 3-7 now its 10-15 (though I've seen 1 cool and more at other places like Viking said. Gamestop even had a reservation program for them. Yes they are doing better as far as getting shipments out. Not the best but they still are and it still sells. They are getting much more quantities than before. Some retailers are now getting 30 or more each time. They still sell relatively quickly. How did I not know you off all people would bring up that it's "relatively low tech." stare
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Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 7:47 am
Death Blues Mix: We don't have any proof of your claims which, regardless of credibility seems to be in opposition to Nintendo.
And I know I'm no businessman and all but don't production facilities take a long time to create? Nintendo would be wasting time going elsewhere instead of trying to improve their current facilities.
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Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 8:55 am
I remember reading somewhere that Nintendo's strategy was nto to oversupply, this way demand stays at the level it's at.
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Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 10:04 am
Nter Death Blues Mix: We don't have any proof of your claims which, regardless of credibility seems to be in opposition to Nintendo. And I know I'm no businessman and all but don't production facilities take a long time to create? Nintendo would be wasting time going elsewhere instead of trying to improve their current facilities.
Nintendo to lose USD $1 Billion in possible sales.
1.8 Million Wiis produced monthly for worldwide distribution.
What I'm trying to say is that with their worth the company shouldn't have as many problems as they supposedly do in regards to supply.
Nintendo could easily overtake a majority of the industries profits in a single month if they just take a hit to bump that number to 2 million produced for worldwide distribution. Take a look at the inners and the parts aren't that expensive to produce. With how they produce DSs, a year later, Wii production shouldn't be at this low. If they could produce more they'd easily be at 15 million sold or higher.
Then more people would buy third party games instead of No More Heroes and Zack and Wiki bombing which is sad. Horribly sad.
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