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Bazisan

PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 1:43 pm


Wow...this is quite a problem. I'll not respond with anything more than Pray! Prayer works wonders. As for the math thing...*hides under her english book until the evil math goes away hoping it won't look there.*

And you don't want my opinion on anything else because this kind of thing just creeps me out and I don't want to offend anyone.
PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:22 am


Why is it a problem?

Lyneun


Priestley

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 4:48 am


Simply put, gender shouldn't be an issue when it comes to faith in God. After all, gender relates to our bodies. Our bodies are only single-use and won't be needed after we die.

Whether our minds can truly be considered male/female, I don't know. It really depends whether you think the mind exists as a physical construct in the brain or as a spiritual construct in the soul. If in the brain, our minds will be different at the resurrection. If in the soul, then it won't have changed at the resurrection.

Either way, we will be resurrected with new bodies and gender will be redundant.
PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 4:54 am


I think that as long as she/he (sorry... I don't know what to put... confused ) loves the Lord, than whatever gender they go to officially, as long as it makes them comfortable, wouldn't that be the best thing?... That way they wouldn't have to dabble in bad stuff... I guess?... It all depends on the morals of the person, and whatever you feel is right. It also includes lots of prayer.

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Lyneun

PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 8:39 am


*nods* I understand what you mean, Sakura. (The proper pronoun is "he") In a situation like this, prayer is essential. It's important to take God's plan above your own, or what you may view as your plan. It is also important to stay true to yourself. God knows best, and if you're living this problem (especially if you're Christian), it is a must to pray, pray, pray.
PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 2:01 pm


In my experience with dealing with transgendered individuals I have noticed that the first reaction is for people to blame God and wonder how He could have screwed up. The answer is that God doesn't screw up. Everything He does He does for a reason. I can't begin to imagine, much less explain why He would give someone a body that doesn't match up with the chemicals in their brain (since male and female is more than biological and anatomical differences; male brains work much differently than female brains). But in God's eyes there is no gender. Galatians 3:28 tells us:

Galatians 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.


You should show this verse to your friend. It might help him.

God created each and every one of us (Psalm 139:13-16) and He made no mistake in any of our details. He doesn't make people He doesn't intend to love, and He loves everyone just the way He has made them.

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Oldillo

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:49 pm


Fushigi na Butterfly
In my experience with dealing with transgendered individuals I have noticed that the first reaction is for people to blame God and wonder how He could have screwed up. The answer is that God doesn't screw up. Everything He does He does for a reason. I can't begin to imagine, much less explain why He would give someone a body that doesn't match up with the chemicals in their brain (since male and female is more than biological and anatomical differences; male brains work much differently than female brains). But in God's eyes there is no gender. Galatians 3:28 tells us:

Galatians 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.


You should show this verse to your friend. It might help him.

God created each and every one of us (Psalm 139:13-16) and He made no mistake in any of our details. He doesn't make people He doesn't intend to love, and He loves everyone just the way He has made them.


I don't see how you can say God makes no mistakes and yet think it is ok for her to do this. God doesn't give people bodies that don't fit their brains. It's deeper than that. I say, this is a big mistake.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:16 pm


Fushigi na Butterfly
In my experience with dealing with transgendered individuals I have noticed that the first reaction is for people to blame God and wonder how He could have screwed up. The answer is that God doesn't screw up. Everything He does He does for a reason. I can't begin to imagine, much less explain why He would give someone a body that doesn't match up with the chemicals in their brain (since male and female is more than biological and anatomical differences; male brains work much differently than female brains). But in God's eyes there is no gender. Galatians 3:28 tells us:

Galatians 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.


You should show this verse to your friend. It might help him.

God created each and every one of us (Psalm 139:13-16) and He made no mistake in any of our details. He doesn't make people He doesn't intend to love, and He loves everyone just the way He has made them.

Does that mean I'm going to Heaven?

Lethkhar


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:40 pm


Lethkhar

Does that mean I'm going to Heaven?

Well, he loves you the way you were made. That doesn't mean he has to like what you did with it. You know, kinda like making a Sim with all the highest stats and letting him do his own thing... which involves sitting on a couch with the remote all day. mrgreen

Would God put a female brain into a male body? As there are men who feel the need to express themselves in a feminine manner, and women who don't feel comfortable unless they're dressed in overalls and covered in diesel grease, my answer would be "apparently so." Is it really any different than that "finding yourself" phase everyone goes through? What's my sexual orientation? Am I going to be called a tomboy/momma's boy the rest of my life? Who's my group? What label am I going to be stuck with? It's usually during THIS time that someone who considers themselves transgender finds out that they think and feel more like someone of the opposite sex. In the end, most of them are okay with the matter and resign themselves to the fact. (All this is from personal contact. Feel free to contradict me at any time.) It's really just another personal journey that one must undertake.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:38 pm


Oldillo
Fushigi na Butterfly
In my experience with dealing with transgendered individuals I have noticed that the first reaction is for people to blame God and wonder how He could have screwed up. The answer is that God doesn't screw up. Everything He does He does for a reason. I can't begin to imagine, much less explain why He would give someone a body that doesn't match up with the chemicals in their brain (since male and female is more than biological and anatomical differences; male brains work much differently than female brains). But in God's eyes there is no gender. Galatians 3:28 tells us:

Galatians 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.


You should show this verse to your friend. It might help him.

God created each and every one of us (Psalm 139:13-16) and He made no mistake in any of our details. He doesn't make people He doesn't intend to love, and He loves everyone just the way He has made them.


I don't see how you can say God makes no mistakes and yet think it is ok for her to do this. God doesn't give people bodies that don't fit their brains. It's deeper than that. I say, this is a big mistake.


First of all, gender is a concept invented by culture. The society you're born into decides what is male and what is female, what is appropriate for a male to do and what is appropriate for a female to do. If it weren't for the stigmas and solid lines humans draw between male and female then transgendered individuals would have no problem accepting who they are as God made them.

Secondly, just because we don't agree with or understand something does not mean it is a mistake on God's part. If a teacher gives you a bad grade that you don't like it has nothing to do with the teacher making a mistake (generally). In most situations, once you understand why you were given that grade things are much better.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:40 pm


Lethkhar
Fushigi na Butterfly
In my experience with dealing with transgendered individuals I have noticed that the first reaction is for people to blame God and wonder how He could have screwed up. The answer is that God doesn't screw up. Everything He does He does for a reason. I can't begin to imagine, much less explain why He would give someone a body that doesn't match up with the chemicals in their brain (since male and female is more than biological and anatomical differences; male brains work much differently than female brains). But in God's eyes there is no gender. Galatians 3:28 tells us:

Galatians 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.


You should show this verse to your friend. It might help him.

God created each and every one of us (Psalm 139:13-16) and He made no mistake in any of our details. He doesn't make people He doesn't intend to love, and He loves everyone just the way He has made them.

Does that mean I'm going to Heaven?


Do you accept His love?
PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:02 pm


Fushigi na Butterfly
Oldillo
Fushigi na Butterfly
In my experience with dealing with transgendered individuals I have noticed that the first reaction is for people to blame God and wonder how He could have screwed up. The answer is that God doesn't screw up. Everything He does He does for a reason. I can't begin to imagine, much less explain why He would give someone a body that doesn't match up with the chemicals in their brain (since male and female is more than biological and anatomical differences; male brains work much differently than female brains). But in God's eyes there is no gender. Galatians 3:28 tells us:

Galatians 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.


You should show this verse to your friend. It might help him.

God created each and every one of us (Psalm 139:13-16) and He made no mistake in any of our details. He doesn't make people He doesn't intend to love, and He loves everyone just the way He has made them.


I don't see how you can say God makes no mistakes and yet think it is ok for her to do this. God doesn't give people bodies that don't fit their brains. It's deeper than that. I say, this is a big mistake.


First of all, gender is a concept invented by culture. The society you're born into decides what is male and what is female, what is appropriate for a male to do and what is appropriate for a female to do. If it weren't for the stigmas and solid lines humans draw between male and female then transgendered individuals would have no problem accepting who they are as God made them.

Secondly, just because we don't agree with or understand something does not mean it is a mistake on God's part. If a teacher gives you a bad grade that you don't like it has nothing to do with the teacher making a mistake (generally). In most situations, once you understand why you were given that grade things are much better.

Hai. Fushigi is right. Gender is just another step that humans need in order to identify who or what we are. It's just a small part of us. God shaped us into what we are but it takes human ingenuity to shape our personality. People need to do research and try to understand the things they do. But of course it is human nature to not like the things you don't understand. stare

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The Amazing Ryuu
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:16 pm


-xXGodslayer_RaiXx-
But of course it is human nature to not like the things you don't understand. stare

domokun Unfortunately so.
PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 8:45 am


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It's usually during THIS time that someone who considers themselves transgender finds out that they think and feel more like someone of the opposite sex. In the end, most of them are okay with the matter and resign themselves to the fact.

Mental gender-identity is formed at around five years of age. Not in the teens. Thank you.

Quote:
Gender is just another step that humans need in order to identify who or what we are. It's just a small part of us. God shaped us into what we are but it takes human ingenuity to shape our personality. People need to do research and try to understand the things they do. But of course it is human nature to not like the things you don't understand.

Quoted For Truth.

Lyneun


SavageDamsal

PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 5:51 am


Well, here's the way I put it. God has created everyone a certain way for a reason. Believing that you are a man in a woman's body (or vice versa) is essentially saying that God made a mistake. Which is obviously not true. If he knows that it is because of sin, not God, that he feels this way I think he can fully accept God. I can't say anything about heaven though. It is impossible to be 100% sure about whether you are going to heaven, that is part of your personal journey, not mine.

Just so there's no confusion, I'm not saying that he's a bad person for feeling this way. I have a friend who was transgendered for a while but decided instead that she was gay. I think sometimes being gay is harder to admit so maybe that's what it is with your friend, I don't know. The the important thing is to realize that you are not a mistake, no matter the circumstances.
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