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 Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:06 am
Kay, so if you really want to, i can change the definitons .But could you tell me what to write then? 3nodding
Anyway, i asked my mentor if he would show me .I think he's going to create an iceball or something.
So if he's creating it, it isn't kinesis, but what term should i use?
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 7:07 am
I dunno, I've never seen someone who was actually able to move free particales to create an Element. Hell to be honest, I've never Heard of someone being able to create an element that way. What your talking about is almost like tranmutation. (And the correct termonology is Hydrokinesis XP, I should have just said so to began with.) But transmutation is usually isolated to spells and forbidden alchemy. So I'm not exactly sure what he's doing. About the closest thing I can think of would be a new evolution of the telekinetics as a whole. Which is rather interesting.
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 7:45 am
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 2:11 pm
It'd be lovely to know HOW he does any of this. I've heard of it all before- but learning it is what I'm interested in. I love a challenge.
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:46 pm
About all I can say on this is: If there's classes, sign me up. I've known about telekinesis for a long time, but I'm still pretty skeptical about the whole 'creating an ice-ball' thing. Where would you learn this type of stuff, anyway? It sounds interesting.
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:50 am
To be honest, he started of quite nooby : with a website.Just type in kinesis + wicca or something like that.Even though these sites might look fluffbunny, the exercises do work for him.I'll post some exercises if you like.
I asked him if he could show some cyrokinesis on the webcam, and he said yes, as soon when his mom isn't home.I'll post a screenshot here then ^^
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:29 am
sweatdrop Are you sure you should be mentored by someone still living with their mother? I'm a teen myself so I'm all about teenage wicca- But regardless of if someone has been 'practicing since they were 13' or younger, at which age they likely wouldnt even understand religion, teen wiccans just don't have the real world experience and religious experience required to mentor others.
I mean I'm going into classes when I am eighteen, and even though I have STUDIED wicca for years I just now started actively practicing it.
Oh well, you're your own person and so feel free to do what you feel is right. Just please do consider that, if your mentor isn't very old, he may very well be yanking your chain.
To actually go back on topic- I have candles and so would like to do some excersizes with flame later on. Is there a way to look at the flame for an extended time without hurting your eyes? I don't like walking around with a hole burned into my retina so all I see in one spot is a colored 'ghost' in my field of vision.
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:35 am
Yeah i know, XD.But yeah, i jsut trust him you know.He detests fluffbunnies, i know other wiccans we chat all together with, so i know that what he's saying is true.If he acts suspicious i'll let you guys know whee
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 2:27 pm
Claims of kinesis strike me as belonging in the trash bin labeled "BS" unless the claims they are making are NOT on the objective level of reality. That usually isn't the case though. They're making claims that can be objectively verified and empirically studied. If what they claimed was true, by now someone would have claimed James Randi's million dollars and we'd be calling it science. It's easy to fool yourself into believing you're actually moving things with your mind. I've done it. We put greater weight on instances that confirm what we want to believe and ignore what denies it and in doing that we can convince ourselves of anything.
There's not necessarily anything wrong with doing this... particularly if you're aware that you're doing it. What someone believes is often less important than the consequences. I'm curious why this guy believes he can do this. Hopefully it isn't a power trip or misplaced desire to be 'special' somehow.
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:37 pm
Okay, I honestly don't think that he's the best person to be learning from if he's still hiding it from his family.
I'm not saying that he doesn't know what he's talking about, because I don't know him. Just make sure that you take everything he teaches you with a grain of salt.
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 6:42 am
Heck, I'd extend that to say take anything and everything with a grain of salt regardless of its source. Though granted some warrant a few more grains than others... heh.
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 6:02 am
I can't say that I believe he can create an Ice-ball. At absolute most, I'd believe that he could, say, freeze water.
But as said earlier- creating elements?
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 4:36 am
I understand your warnings and i am carefull 3nodding .If i 100% believed him, i wouldn't be asking him for evidence would i wink
He's actually more of a co-worker XD There are things he doesn't know either, and then i tell him, and he shows me the books he bought, and i show him the websites i found.Ad when he tells me something, i do check the internet for more info and stuff.
I wouldn't think he would say that to be "special" , but he could be saying that so i would look up to him.He likes to have the "mentor " status.
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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:40 pm
isn't imposing "mentor" status a way of feeling special....I'd say...if he's a teen....he's not a mentor...and I'd be especially wary of someone that makes such claims.....there are people out there that have been working with energy(I say this because in my view that's what this is actually talking about) for 30 years and haven't claimed to have this ability...reguardless of how gifted someone is at birth...I find it unlikely that he can actually accomplish this...and I don't trust webcams....there are easy ways to manipulate lighting and such that could make it look like he had done it.....so really...call him a friend...a peer...or even study partner...but mentor...no way...not trying to be rude or anything....but people of that age don't have enough spare time outside of school, work and other such things to have studied enough in the craft to have mastered the creation of an iceball confused talk2hand
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:11 pm
I'm not really sure what it is I can do...
But I can pull blood through skin without leaving a mark or actually cutting the person.
When I was a kid I had a lot of stuff with fire, like concentrating on the flame to make it grow or die down, though I havent tried this in years.
And when I was younger (temper tantrum stage) when I got angry or whatever the electricity would serge and my skin would get extremely hot, my mom would make me take a freezing cold shower (with my clothes on for some weird reason) because that was the only way to get me to stop and to cool down.
A close friend of mine can somewhat control the elements!
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