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 Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:22 am
chocokarma Joshua_Ritter chocokarma zanepyre i know there just a tool but anything made by parker bros i dont know iv made my own befor and they seem to work fine so tell me how you feel about them its the only way for anybody to communicate with a soul, not just spirits, souls exist outside our range of communications. but with a quija board, properly made quija boards... then you can connect with the soul, not a good outcome because souls are not meant to ever return to our world after they pass. have you even studied anything about spirits and souls? if not, then please, dont you DARE innsult me by even assuming i am lying. If you dont belive me, then you do the research into the history of souls. go ahead, do the research yourself, it all says the same, souls cannot interact with humans, but spirits do. soul= life spark spirit= mind body= body Calm the ******** down, little man. Josh wasn't saying that you were lying. He was simply stating that the fact that you say "I know that A is B" rather than, "I think A is B" or "In my opinion, A is B". Even "A is B" is ok, if you have the right kind of tone. The tone of your answers is that of many people we've seen in this guild, who were almost certainly full of s**t. That's not to say that you're full of s**t, but your tone makes most people a bit suspicious. If you want people to listen to you, respect your ideas, and understand that you've done a hell of a lot of research to get to where you are now, BE NICE, GODDAMNIT. Read other people's posts. They don't say "I know A is B because I've done a lot of research and if you think otherwise you're wrong." Remember, not everything you read is correct. I mean, how many theories about the creation of the world are there? How many religions are there? How many conflicting moral views are there? They can't all be right. Researching is a good way to learn stuff, but just because you read it in a book doesn't mean that everything else is wrong. This post was brought to you by  , the letter ß and the number 7.
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:15 pm
chocokarma Joshua_Ritter chocokarma zanepyre i know there just a tool but anything made by parker bros i dont know iv made my own befor and they seem to work fine so tell me how you feel about them its the only way for anybody to communicate with a soul, not just spirits, souls exist outside our range of communications. but with a quija board, properly made quija boards... then you can connect with the soul, not a good outcome because souls are not meant to ever return to our world after they pass. have you even studied anything about spirits and souls? if not, then please, dont you DARE innsult me by even assuming i am lying. If you dont belive me, then you do the research into the history of souls. go ahead, do the research yourself, it all says the same, souls cannot interact with humans, but spirits do. soul= life spark spirit= mind body= body Wow, now I think you're just making it up for the giggles and shits. You got it backwards Mr. Riley, the soul is the self and everything you ~ARE~. The spirit is the "life spark" or energy. The Soul cannot exist without the spirit and the spirit without the soul is merely energy. Those who know what their doing, interact with Souls AND the energy of the soul (the spirit) all the time. The reason people tend to get the difference between spirit and souls confused is because they are basically the same. In this example... When you see a cake with icing do you call it a cake with icing or do you just call it a cake? The cake is the spirit and the icing is the soul, the cake alone would just be the base, the foundation. The icing is what makes the cake unique and beautiful. We call spirits as such but that doesn't mean they're JUST spirit, they're a soul that is propelled and powered by a spirit (aka: Life force). The Princeton Dictionary agrees: Spirit: the vital principle or animating force within living things Soul: # the immaterial part of a person; the actuating cause of an individual life # person: a human being; "there was too much for one person to do" # deep feeling or emotion wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn The non-physical persona of any living creature is the Soul.
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:05 pm
Mitsh Dark_of_Niwa Toys and nothing more. There is felt on the bottom of that little triangle.You subconscious mind makes your muscles twitch and move the thing to the answer you want. "Only this and nothing more." Perhaps the channeled entity is unable to communicate except through the people using the board? ie, it's not the subconscious mind that directs the glass, but the will of the spirit through the bodies of the participants. You could test this by blindfolding them. However, you could then claim the spirit needs to see the letters through each participant's eyes in order to spell something out -- in which case, you could get a spirit that speaks a different language and have them spell out a message, provided none of the participants cab understand said language. "And the raven, never flitting, still is sitting, still is sitting
On the pallid bust of Pallas just above my chamber door"-- Great taste in poetry, chief. |D Even in so,who would actually use a board fresh off of a Wal-Mart shelf to channel spirits?Honestly,there are a lot more methods out there. "Quoth the raven-
Nevermore."Good poem indeed.As far as his short stories,I loved Tell-Tale Heart.Hated Cask of Montieado however.
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:12 pm
Azana Brown Unless, of course, you know exactly who you're contacting. In fact, it is often recommended you have a specific spirit in mind to contact, or at the very least a filter set up to keep the riff-raff out (the ones that would punch you in the face). It's a tool. Just like a wand, a chalice, a cauldron, or all the other goodies are tools. It is up to the user to make significance of it. If it's nothing but a toy to you, a toy it shall remain. If you put your energy into it and set it aside to contact spirits, then that's what it does. How? Probably similar to automatic writing. If you wanna use it, more power to you. Just stay safe, mmmk?
But yeah, if you DO know what you're doing, the ouija board can actually be useful. A lot of people also use "angel boards," which are pretty much the same thing except the idea is to contact higher spirits. But it's kind of a gimmick, because the spirits you contact depend on YOU, not the object.
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:00 pm
Mitsh chocokarma Joshua_Ritter chocokarma zanepyre i know there just a tool but anything made by parker bros i dont know iv made my own befor and they seem to work fine so tell me how you feel about them its the only way for anybody to communicate with a soul, not just spirits, souls exist outside our range of communications. but with a quija board, properly made quija boards... then you can connect with the soul, not a good outcome because souls are not meant to ever return to our world after they pass. have you even studied anything about spirits and souls? if not, then please, dont you DARE innsult me by even assuming i am lying. If you dont belive me, then you do the research into the history of souls. go ahead, do the research yourself, it all says the same, souls cannot interact with humans, but spirits do. soul= life spark spirit= mind body= body Hey, whoa. Calm down. You're insulting a God there. It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the Living God, and all that. Likewise, you may have theory and evidence to back up your claims, but remember, your ideas about how magick and psionics work are just ideas, like everyone else's.
But, down to business. Mr. Chocok. I doubt you know who I am, but that's fine. I prefer to believe that my answers stand on their own merits. But the fact of the matter is, your (maybe)righteous indignation over being questioned doesn't change the basic idea of what you said. "If you don't believe me, you're wrong, and if you know enough, you'll see I'm right." Sorry, but a man who doesn't have the understanding/confidence to admit that they may be wrong isn't one I can put much stock in, y'know? If there is more than one person in the world (and there is) who claims to have the full and uncompromised truth, then you have to judge what they say by a standard other than "Cuz I said so" so you can figure out who's full of bullshit and who actually has something worthwhile.
And I'm gonna say yeah, I like BlkCat's spirit v. soul descriptors better. Also, Princeton dictionary says it so it must be true.
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:52 pm
See whats going on here? The topics gone completely off course simply because we let a disturbance in our guild purposely. Why hasn't he been banned yet? It's just annoying now.
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:16 pm
a**l Jesus See whats going on here? The topics gone completely off course simply because we let a disturbance in our guild purposely. Why hasn't he been banned yet? It's just annoying now. I find it funny and interesting, set flame to the fluffy as a certain guild leader says. And I'm a goddamned pyromaniac.
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 6:06 pm
chocokarma have you even studied anything about spirits and souls? if not, then please, dont you DARE innsult me by even assuming i am lying. If you dont belive me, then you do the research into the history of souls. go ahead, do the research yourself, it all says the same, souls cannot interact with humans, but spirits do. soul= life spark spirit= mind body= body You keep babbling on about the history of all these metaphysical constructs without citing the source of your references (Defcon 1: bullshit detected), what period of history you are referring to souls in (Defcon 2: preparing for launch), what culture you are referring to souls in (Defcon 3: bullshit armed) or even what kind of spiritual beliefs the soul is supposed to exist within, such as monotheism or polytheism (Defcon 4: bullshit LAUNCHED). In short mate you never have anything to go on except things you make up from post to post. Just start producing facts with tangible evidence or just stop ******** posting.
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:09 am
Blind Guardian the 2nd chocokarma have you even studied anything about spirits and souls? if not, then please, dont you DARE innsult me by even assuming i am lying. If you dont belive me, then you do the research into the history of souls. go ahead, do the research yourself, it all says the same, souls cannot interact with humans, but spirits do. soul= life spark spirit= mind body= body You keep babbling on about the history of all these metaphysical constructs without citing the source of your references (Defcon 1: bullshit detected), what period of history you are referring to souls in (Defcon 2: preparing for launch), what culture you are referring to souls in (Defcon 3: bullshit armed) or even what kind of spiritual beliefs the soul is supposed to exist within, such as monotheism or polytheism (Defcon 4: bullshit LAUNCHED). In short mate you never have anything to go on except things you make up from post to post. Just start producing facts with tangible evidence or just stop ******** posting. honestly chokokarma everyone is right. u seem to be spitting out ideas, rather than providing evidence. now if you said "I found blah in this book on page such&such, at this time" then we would be more willing to listen. Also you had no right to get so pissy with Joshua about what he said. he simply made his opinion known about your attitude (which needs a major adjustment if you ask me)
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:57 am
maybe a simple test would be able to prove it. You need 5 or more people. One writes down a question and keeps the answer secret. Another person reads the question to a third person (for extra secrecy, handwriting and voices give a lot away), and then the third person says it to the other two who actually are the ones using the quija bourd. If the answer is right, then it proves it. Of course, it needs to be altered a little to make it work...maybe three questions? Or having the two not hear the question and try to find out what it is?
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