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 Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 2:15 pm
lordstar etchedspirit divineseraph Christians go to hevaen, right? Let's kill all of them so they get to Jesus faster! Yay genocide! Yay God's work! uh...no On another note...A fetus is still living whether it is born or not, it's still alive and it's still a lifeyes but the argument is what to do with a parasite and technically that’s what a fetus is. ugh...I know that a fetus is a parasite.....it feeds off the host and blah blah. The thing is, it will become a human infant.....you wouldnt kill a helpless baby would you???
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 2:32 pm
i dont give a dang wat the law says bout it. it is WRONG the thing jus cause they aint became a person of society they aint living ppl but they are if u ask me abortion and murder are the exact same no matter wat ppl say bout it we are all the same whether born yet er not
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:00 pm
etchedspirit lordstar etchedspirit divineseraph Christians go to hevaen, right? Let's kill all of them so they get to Jesus faster! Yay genocide! Yay God's work! uh...no On another note...A fetus is still living whether it is born or not, it's still alive and it's still a lifeyes but the argument is what to do with a parasite and technically that’s what a fetus is. ugh...I know that a fetus is a parasite.....it feeds off the host and blah blah. The thing is, it will become a human infant.....you wouldnt kill a helpless baby would you??? It wont become a human baby unless the mother decides to make the investment...we are looking at what is and not what could be.
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 5:31 pm
etchedspirit lordstar etchedspirit divineseraph Christians go to hevaen, right? Let's kill all of them so they get to Jesus faster! Yay genocide! Yay God's work! uh...no On another note...A fetus is still living whether it is born or not, it's still alive and it's still a lifeyes but the argument is what to do with a parasite and technically that’s what a fetus is. ugh...I know that a fetus is a parasite.....it feeds off the host and blah blah. The thing is, it will become a human infant.....you wouldnt kill a helpless baby would you??? No, but I would quite happily give it up for adoption. My support of abortion stems not from a hatred of children, but rather a hatred of forcing anyone to care for a child they do not want. As such, I would support drug-induced births instead of late-term abortions, because that's where the fetus can begin to survive outside the mother's body. This is Mendori/kaleinh, by the way.
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:26 pm
I usually start out my prolife/prochoice debate with something of this sort:
Imagine a mother cat. You know, soft. Furry. She's pregnant, and is going to have a bunch of little kittens. With the mewing, and the softness, and the furry. Fun stuff.
Now imagine cutting those unborn baby kitties to pieces, and dragging it out of the mommy cat.
Not quite so cute or fuzzy cuddly then.
Normally it would be called animal cruelty.
And yet we do this to our own children....?
Not a fan.
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:39 pm
ShakouMari-na I usually start out my prolife/prochoice debate with something of this sort: Imagine a mother cat. You know, soft. Furry. She's pregnant, and is going to have a bunch of little kittens. With the mewing, and the softness, and the furry. Fun stuff. Now imagine cutting those unborn baby kitties to pieces, and dragging it out of the mommy cat. Not quite so cute or fuzzy cuddly then. Normally it would be called animal cruelty. And yet we do this to our own children....? Not a fan. Oh, the strawmen. 1. Kitten fetii look about the same as human fetii; like lizards. Squishy, slimy, hairless kickable lizards. =D That's one appeal to emotion down. 2. Early abortions do not involve cutting anything to pieces; they are really nothing more than slightly heavier abortions. 3. Because waiting until the babies are out and then drowning them isso much more humane. ^-^ How we treat animals shouldn't affect how we treat humans.
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:21 am
Mein Kulturkampf ShakouMari-na I usually start out my prolife/prochoice debate with something of this sort: Imagine a mother cat. You know, soft. Furry. She's pregnant, and is going to have a bunch of little kittens. With the mewing, and the softness, and the furry. Fun stuff. Now imagine cutting those unborn baby kitties to pieces, and dragging it out of the mommy cat. Not quite so cute or fuzzy cuddly then. Normally it would be called animal cruelty. And yet we do this to our own children....? Not a fan. Oh, the strawmen. 1. Kitten fetii look about the same as human fetii; like lizards. Squishy, slimy, hairless kickable lizards. =D That's one appeal to emotion down. 2. Early abortions do not involve cutting anything to pieces; they are really nothing more than slightly heavier abortions. 3. Because waiting until the babies are out and then drowning them isso much more humane. ^-^ How we treat animals shouldn't affect how we treat humans. So, things that are ugly deserve death? Or are they just more acceptable kills because they aren't beautiful, fully-formed babies? And the suction must destroy the fetus to remove it. It comes out as a slurry of flesh and cartilige. By about, what, 8 weeks, the fetus must be removed with forcepts, to pull apart the cartilige which is too tough for the vacuum? And no, I'm not saying that abortion should be illegal because it is ugly. But your assertion that it is simply wrapping up a single-celled organism and sending it on it's way to God in a basket isn't correct either. And how about not killing anyone? Adoption works fine. Yeah, there are problems, but how can you claim to know who deserves life and who doesn't? Isn't taking the right to life worse than taing the right to kill a life?
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:41 am
Quote: yes but the argument is what to do with a parasite and technically that’s what a fetus is. Not every person is willing to actually call a baby a parasite. It depends on what the person thinks of the baby. Personally, I wouldn't want to call it a parasite because it would be a worthy sacrifice for a mother. How about the commandment, "Thou shall not kill?" Abortion is still killing because technically, it is taking away a life, or at least a potential for a life, no matter how you justify it. Secondly, human life to God is precious. "You saw me before I was born and scheduled each day of my life before I began to breathe. Everyday was recorded in your book!" (Psalm 139:16) A fetus is something that comes from God, and thus, if it is killed, then I doubt God would be very happy about it.
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 8:06 am
And no, feti are not parasites. Unless all people who stay at another's home ar parasites, for sapping their money and resources...
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 10:07 am
divineseraph And no, feti are not parasites. Unless all people who stay at another's home ar parasites, for sapping their money and resources... Perhaps we are all parasites, or a plague upon our planet. Humanity, the cancer that keeps growing, sapping the life of our beloved Earth. If your so concerned about not taking life then stop eating!
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 8:54 pm
You seem to have forgotten - even before we were in the womb, the Lord knew us.
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 9:27 am
Baskar You seem to have forgotten - even before we were in the womb, the Lord knew us. That was kind of creepy and I would disagree with where you were going with that statement
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:11 pm
Basically, from when the embryo starts to form, it's growing right? By definition, doesn't anything that grows by itself a LIVING thing?
The fact that it doesn't have a face, brain, and lungs doesn't mean it isn't human yet. That's just being ******** up and shallow too.
So abortion, in a very strange and unique way, is murder.
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 4:42 pm
In this topic i think it is in humane. But look at it this way alot of people git aborshins because they cant support a child. So in that case i would think its better going and dieing insted of having a crapy life. I mean realy witch would u rather ?????
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 9:03 pm
divineseraph all people who stay at another's home ar parasites, for sapping their money and resources... You think they aren't?
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