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7raindrops

PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 4:50 pm


Have you ever tried to figure out why you hate this race? If it an isolated incident verses an ongoing disrepect towards you and your loved ones.

Do you go out of your way (to the point where you have to change your life or habits) to avoid that race?

Is internalizng it hurting you is there some form of release for you?

But I have little tolerance for racists because I dislike ignorance.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 11:02 am


I'd say it is not that bad, everyone is a little racist, me myself, I am more afraid of people using the "race card". It is tense dealing with other races, being a cashier as my work,and I live in Milwaukee, one of the most segregated cities, and theres a lot of minority criminals, not because they are minorities, because they are poor, living in bad poor neighborhoods, and white people in the neighborhood would be just as bad. I think that some types of people make it harder not to be racist, and its hard not to think in your head racial stereotypes and jokes, with them being all over the tv. Hindu/Indian people bug me the most at work though, because a lot of them like to bring up a bunch of stuff, say how much this to everything, and then go, no i don't want, and they misunderstand signs all the time, because they can not read English, then argue over prices. And we also get alot of them bying stuff to re sell it at their stores, which is against the law. They use to come in when we had better milk sales and fill the cart up with 6 to ten gallons a day, then argue about the limits of 2 per person. One lady had a little baby, and said two gallons for her, and so on with each kid. It just can drive you crazy because they do not understand our shopping system at all, and not everyone is like that, there are people who are nice and do not cause problems. I guess you have to forgive and move on about racial differences, and not worry to much about it, race does not make a difference.

Also, i think people need to stop hating people for being a little racist or prejudice. Its not like your going around crusading everyone that isn't Mexican or anything, so people need to forgive a little intolerance of other races.

emk87



Chibi_tomb_robber


PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:10 pm


I don't think it's a bad thing to be a little bit racist. As long as you're not going around hurting people or anything. Actions speak louder then thoughts after all. It's one thing to feel something, but another to voice it.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:21 pm


zz1000zz
zz1000zz
By asking, "Does that make me a bad person?" you imply the judgment should be based upon a moral standard. At that point, most moral systems would agree that your racism is "bad."


He is "bad" on a moral level. The more universal "moral" codes have nothing to do with morality, and under them he would not be "bad."


But morals (from my understanding of them) are informed by a number of factors, but at the end of the day they are personal. If he wishes to be introspective of himself then he may find that he is indeed immoral, but it would be a judgement of himself made by himself.

His thoughts will only really be immoral if other individuals become involved and find offense in them. If that does not happen then it will remain up to him to decide if he is a good or bad person for thinking and feeling this way.

Zombie1429


zz1000zz

PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:42 pm


Disco_Bandit
zz1000zz
zz1000zz
By asking, "Does that make me a bad person?" you imply the judgment should be based upon a moral standard. At that point, most moral systems would agree that your racism is "bad."


He is "bad" on a moral level. The more universal "moral" codes have nothing to do with morality, and under them he would not be "bad."


But morals (from my understanding of them) are informed by a number of factors, but at the end of the day they are personal. If he wishes to be introspective of himself then he may find that he is indeed immoral, but it would be a judgement of himself made by himself.


This is true, with the caveat personal morals are generally taken in large part from an external system.

Disco_Bandit
His thoughts will only really be immoral if other individuals become involved and find offense in them. If that does not happen then it will remain up to him to decide if he is a good or bad person for thinking and feeling this way.


Including other people would be irrelevant. The question of morality is independent of other people. It is, as you say, "up to him." However, he has asked for other people's opinions, and as such i have stated the more prevalent moral beliefs. If he had his own system of morality, my comments would be meaningless, as would his question.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:49 pm


zz1000zz
Disco_Bandit
zz1000zz
zz1000zz
By asking, "Does that make me a bad person?" you imply the judgment should be based upon a moral standard. At that point, most moral systems would agree that your racism is "bad."


He is "bad" on a moral level. The more universal "moral" codes have nothing to do with morality, and under them he would not be "bad."


But morals (from my understanding of them) are informed by a number of factors, but at the end of the day they are personal. If he wishes to be introspective of himself then he may find that he is indeed immoral, but it would be a judgement of himself made by himself.


This is true, with the caveat personal morals are generally taken in large part from an external system.

Disco_Bandit
His thoughts will only really be immoral if other individuals become involved and find offense in them. If that does not happen then it will remain up to him to decide if he is a good or bad person for thinking and feeling this way.


Including other people would be irrelevant. The question of morality is independent of other people. It is, as you say, "up to him." However, he has asked for other people's opinions, and as such i have stated the more prevalent moral beliefs. If he had his own system of morality, my comments would be meaningless, as would his question.


And this is my point. Without seeking our opinions of his thought we would not have thought him immoral. It would have remained a personal belief that was not being scrutinized by outsiders.
However, the very fact that he felt the need to ask shows a certain doubt in his moral convinctions (concerning his attitude towards race), this is what gives us permission to question this particular belief of his.

Zombie1429


Xenrac

Dapper Gekko

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 3:06 pm


I find it hard not to be racist sometimes. In fact I've found myself nearly punching myself in the stomach for thinking racist thoughts. But then I see the sad number of people conforming to stereotypes and find that I can't look at those who don't without some kind of bias.
And another thing: those who are truly racist don't realize it.
PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 5:52 pm


As far as I care, there's nothing wrong with being racist, as long as it stays in your own head. Just about everyone thinks stereotypically, because they're all influenced by the society around them, and that makes them bias.

I don't think you should look at the word "bias" as such a bad thing. The reaseon it sounds so negative is probably because it's always used along with the words "discrimination" and "crime", but all it really means is that your brain registers a commonly occuring pattern, which is pretty natural.

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And another thing: those who are truly racist don't realize it.


Well, sometimes they do realize it. My opinion is that people who establish their beliefs based solely on what they're taught are a bit narrow minded, so when someone accuses them of something, their first and only instinct is to deny it. My mom does this, especially when I tell her she drives slow.

xeidrii


THE TRUE RAZGRIZ

PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 6:46 pm


[gossamer]!smile.
    Does that make me a bad person?

    I keep my insults to myself, if I have to cooperate with the unpreffered race I will without complaint, etcetera, etcetera. It's more like a personal hatred, than a vocalized one.

    So, people, what do you think?

    ps. I'm mexican, if that somehow helps. Most people assume I'm white when they hear that.


hey I personaly don't like racists so I guess that makes me a racist too huh?

but like I say "no harm no foul" if you don't hurt anyone's feelings then it's okay

just make sure to lock the knife drawer mrgreen (just kidding)

anyways if you can co-exist with the ones you hate then it's a go for you to live your life the way you want with a carefree heart
PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 5:03 am


Clearly, you aren't planning on leaving rascisim soon, as it seems you are O.K. with being a 'Rascist'. Although, as stated before, Rascisim is 'bad' so you, in turn, are 'bad'. Although 3rd factors could have provoked the hatred of this other skin, which, would moralize it a bit. Example: 'Black people killed my father', 'White people burned down my house'.

Ballad of the Wind Fish


Depressed-Sai-Chan

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 4:27 pm


No way! I personally am not rasist and I think everyone's equal but if you think differently then that's you! No one can tell you that you're a bad person because that would make them a bad person. It's stupid for anyone to say something about it, especiously if you don't make any riots out of it! It's no big deal! Rasism is only natural to some people and there's no use in someone making fun of it because you're only human. Humans aren't, and never will be perfect! That is why I say that racism is okay to an extent. You're doing fine and don't let anyone tell you otherwise! =^_^=
PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 10:20 pm


Racism is useless...its the worst thing on this earth and it holds you and others back...but it doesnt mean you're a bad person unless you are openly racist...

Try Love...not Hate

BlackMetalPunk


13Shuffle

PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:55 pm


Is it truly racism if its only in your thought? I sadly have to say, yes. But I do not think it makes you "bad". You don't act out to hurt someone else. So relax and someday, eventually it may change. One thought though, try not to pass it on to your children one day.

Me, I'm not racist. I hate everyone equally, regardless of race, creed, color, nation of origin, religion or lack there of, gender, sexuality or eye color.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 8:22 am


As much as I'm inclined to disagree with your opinion, if you aren't hurting anyone, you have the right to your own opinions.

Scraps 2-point-0


The-Whispered-Kiss

PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 7:53 pm


Being racist is bad because it's usually harmful.

I will admit boldy - it's ridiculous. Are you racist by looks or by culture?
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