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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:32 am


You're going to look very sharp! Kol ha-kavod (all the glory)!

Now that you've got your kippah on, the crown that reminds you of the ultimate King above you, have you given thought to wearing the four-cornered garment with its fringes?

I can highly recommend any that come from Rosenblum's for both comfort and quality. I'm fond of the Neatzit, as it's easy to wash, and the men in my life give rave reviews about its comfort and breathability. While it's not listed on the site right now (probably because of a lack of available stock), I also know that Rosenblum's often carries nylon mesh tzitzit, which are very cool and breathable in the summertime. You may prefer the wool ones for winter.

Tzitzit, by the way, is the word that refers to a fringe. Tzitziyot refers to multiple fringes, and yet almost no one I know refers to them with the plural word, even though they use the word tzitzit as if it were a plural word. Broadly, tzitzit also refers to the undershirt to which the fringes are attached, though this is more properly called arba kanfot ('four corners') or beged arba kanfot ('garment of four corners'). If you ask for tzitzit (TZEE-tzeet) or arba kanfot (AR-bah kahn-FOHT), people will know what you're talking about.

The fringes themselves can be worn either tucked under one's trousers and out of sight, or you can tuck in the shirt and undershirt and then draw out the fringes to dangle at each hip. Either way is valid. But if you wear them out, keep in mind that they're meant to remind you of the 613 mitzvot (commandments) that are incumbent upon all Jews. That doesn't mean you have to be 100% observant yet! It just means that people will identify you as a Jew, so if you have a choice between doing something that is in keeping with Jewish law or doing something that isn't in keeping with Jewish law, people are going to notice it more if you break Jewish law while wearing tzitzit, and they may think of you as a hypocrite.

Also keep in mind that because the tzitzit are a reminder of the 613 laws to which Jews are bound, non-Jews shouldn't wear them, as non-Jews are only commanded to keep the Seven Noachide Laws. (Note: This website author writes from an Orthodox perspective, and also from the perspective of one who interprets the laws concerning same-sex relationships from a negative viewpoint. I happen to disagree, but read the author's work anyway; it's very well researched, thoughtful, respectful, and can be considered correct depending upon one's perspective.)
PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:04 am


I plan on getting tzitzit when I have the money. As I get enough money, I'm buying myself more and more things that I should/want to have.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:53 am


I think a nice normal black velvet-ish one looks nice.

And nice post on Tzitzit, Divash. Good to inform people.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:31 pm


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I plan on getting tzitzit when I have the money. As I get enough money, I'm buying myself more and more things that I should/want to have.
I feel you. So much Judaica, so little money. Even if you aren't speaking particularly of religious items, those seem to be quite prominent on my "stuff to get" list.

Kudos for deciding to wear a kippah, it's something I wish more guys would do. I'm in the pocess of making a silly one for a friend of mine that will look kinda like a disco ball. He'd never wear it, but it would make for good novelty, kinda like the basketball ones. wink

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:03 pm


Well, right now I wear a cadet cap for casual times, and a tophat that looks like one of the hats that Orthodox men wear, for more formal times. I'd like to switch to the kippah for formal times, though, since I'm not really orthodox. Nevertheless, I make sure to keep my head covered.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:51 am


I know a lot of men who wear a kippah (often, but not always, black velvet; more often, black or colored crocheted) for all times, but when going outside put on a fedora or bowler. For really formal religious occasions, they usually put on a streimel -- but those can cost up to $2500, so not many have the money to buy one. Others get them as they become bar mitzvah, by virtue of all the friends and family donating to the cause of getting one; they usually wear it only on truly stupendous occasions, like holidays or their wedding. I'm not a big fan of the streimel, though, because they're made with real fox tails, and I'm anti-fur, anti-cruelty.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:12 am


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I think you should go with this.

lol for the win!
to be honest. as for kippahs, it depends. a kippa tells a lot about a person. if they are wearing a black velvet kippah they are charadit (ultra orthodox) if they are wering a knit kippa they are kippa saruggah (more relaxed) depends on what you want to project about yourself ^^
gogo for the bascketball!
PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:02 pm


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Kudos for deciding to wear a kippah, it's something I wish more guys would do. I'm in the pocess of making a silly one for a friend of mine that will look kinda like a disco ball. He'd never wear it, but it would make for good novelty, kinda like the basketball ones. wink

They are pretty awesome looking. 3nodding

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:23 pm


Ah, I finally have pictures of the suit that the kippah will be going with.

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The kippah hasn't come in yet though.

Edit: The boots will vanish this weekend when I get the chance to go shopping for a proper pair of dress shoes.
PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:10 pm


I'd go with a Gabrieli talit for that outfit.

I'd also go with a white shirt instead of a black.

Other than that... you're lookin sharp.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:56 pm


I have a white shirt, somewhere. I can't find it.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:40 am


You look great. Very sharp, very with-it. I know that the kippah you chose is going to help take it up even a level higher.

Yes, different colors of shirt will help.

About Gabrieli tallitot -- they're silk. I realize that this won't bother some people, but do you know how they get silk?

Here's what I thought all my life. I thought that the silkworms would be nestled in cocoons, then emerge and live, and they'd come back to lay more eggs and the cycle would repeat. I thought that after the baby silkworms hatched, silk workers would gather up the silk fibers and take it to be spun into pretty things. That's now how it works, though.

In reality, it works like this. A silkworm lays eggs. Silk workers (who are paid an average of about $10 per YEAR, which is SO not a living wage) harvest about 95% of the eggs and bring them to the factory. They are immediately thrown into hot boiling water for about five minutes, until the baby silkworms die. Then they unwind the silk and remove the dead silkworm baby bodies, and spin the silk into pretty things.

Think that's okay? Dip your pinkie finger into boiling water. See if you can keep it there for ten full seconds. Did you enjoy it? No? I bet the baby silkworms who die in boiling water don't enjoy it, either.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:17 am


Well ok... how do you make kosher silk without violating the JLPCA (Jewish Laws for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals)
PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:44 am


That's the thing. Silk is kosher. It's also cruel. There's no way to make silk in a non-cruel fashion.

I'd go for rayon or viscose, personally. Rayon is plant-based; viscose is rayon fibers that are chemically treated to make them a bit finer and a bit more shiny. Anti-cruelty, very pretty, less expensive than silk, and machine washable (instead of dry-cleaning).

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 2:30 pm


Hmn. My kippah is here, at the same time as my tanakh. Now I have a very silly question. How do I wear it? I've never worn a kippah before, so I don't know how it sits on my head.
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