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 Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 9:01 pm
Hmmm,lol, this can be a fun topic. I would have to say, um... Freya or Beatrix. First of all, Beatrix was very powerful(even though I completey Kicked her a** all up and down burmecia). But, not including the in-game power. She had the Looks, the Power, and terribly strong attack strenght. And as seen in FFIX, she healed Garnet, which means she had advanced white magics as well. Think about it, she could have even made a perfect heroin. She had unimaginable power with her ability "Shock", which would decimate foe upon foe, not to mention all her other abilitys. And she could also heal herself, so wounds wouldnt become a problem. But, if she ran out of MP, then she could simply kick thier a** anyway with her simple swordplay.
For freya?...I dunno, she was just a bit awsome to me whee
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:01 pm
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 1:47 pm
Narcissus of Death See, that is the thing. Since Final Fantasy VII as more screen time, run offs, and spin offs, it is only natural that fans of that specific serie will choose the it's hero as the more powerful one out of them all. If Final Fantasy VIII had a movie which showed Squall acquire more skills and move at a fast rate, the fans would view him even more of a bad a** then he is now and cooler then any other main character. Which is why I am stick with the games and not it's spin offs. But even though you say they attack in a stright line (though I do not believe in such a thing when it actually comes to battles), yea Cloud might have struch Terra or Zidane down. But who is to say one of those two (who ever he goes up against) won't strike him first? If. If. If Squall had a spin-off in which he did the things Cloud does, that would be one thing. As he does not, we have no choice but to assume he cannot do those things. Advent Children is canon, and I see no reason why it can't be counted (Kingdom Hearts, though, I wouldn't count). True, true, for speed... But counting Advent Children, I'm going to have to say that Cloud is pretty dang fast anyway. So, yeah, unless we get an official ruling on whether spin-offs count, I'm afraid we'll have to agree to disagree. On another note, I would probably vote Beatrix... If she were the main character. She's really not even a full-time PC.
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:00 pm
Out of the FF I've played, my money's on Cloud, unfortunately. I'd love to say Auron or Tidus, or someone from XII; but Auron's not a main character; Tidus, as cool as he is, could never beat up everyone; and I can't see anyone from FFXII solo, especially not Vaan.
So, because AC, DoC and all the others are canon, I'll go with Cloud.
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:08 am
My money is on yuna......
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:09 pm
 NarcissusOfDeath~*~*~*~*~ Ravenwolf Narcissus of Death See, that is the thing. Since Final Fantasy VII as more screen time, run offs, and spin offs, it is only natural that fans of that specific serie will choose the it's hero as the more powerful one out of them all. If Final Fantasy VIII had a movie which showed Squall acquire more skills and move at a fast rate, the fans would view him even more of a bad a** then he is now and cooler then any other main character. Which is why I am stick with the games and not it's spin offs. But even though you say they attack in a stright line (though I do not believe in such a thing when it actually comes to battles), yea Cloud might have struch Terra or Zidane down. But who is to say one of those two (who ever he goes up against) won't strike him first? If. If. If Squall had a spin-off in which he did the things Cloud does, that would be one thing. As he does not, we have no choice but to assume he cannot do those things. Advent Children is canon, and I see no reason why it can't be counted (Kingdom Hearts, though, I wouldn't count). True, true, for speed... But counting Advent Children, I'm going to have to say that Cloud is pretty dang fast anyway. So, yeah, unless we get an official ruling on whether spin-offs count, I'm afraid we'll have to agree to disagree. On another note, I would probably vote Beatrix... If she were the main character. She's really not even a full-time PC. Which is why I, myself, am not counting Advent Children. It is really unfair to the other series and of course it will automatically have Cloud as the winner since it shows he can do so much more then any other. Stronger, faster, better, and all that jazz.
The only ones that has a chance against Cloud, if we do include the sequels, is Yuna and Squall. I am going to over look the crappy plot in this one and head straight for the skills. Yuna because it shows that she knows how to use multiple weapons and acquires more skills (such as the ability to JUMP). Squall already had a chance since he has two weapons in one. And the skills that man has!
But if we don't include the sequels and spin offs, then other characters will have a chance. From the white mage of Final Fantasy (since there is no 'main' character in the first one) to Vaan of Final Fantasy XII (since his skills is heavily over looked due to his effeminate features, much to my disappointment... ). Even characters from Crystal Chronicles or Tactics.
Which is why I only speak for myself when I say that Zidane or Terra really does have a chance against Cloud. For when it comes to battles, there is no such thing as a 'gentlemen' battle (unless you want them to fight in the early 1700's, were you did take turns in firing). Speed can be everything. You can swing a sword all day with all your might and not hit a thing.
Either way, choosing the best main character is is difficult. For me that is since I had a chance to fight with all the main characters.
Then again, who cares about what I say? I'm just another person who hates Final Fantasy VII (which is not the case, thank you very much) and will do absolutely everything in my power to destroy it's very image... (I hope you all can detect the sarcasm in that last sentence) ~Narcissus of Death ~*~*~*~*~
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:53 pm
personally. id go cloud. but you also gotta look at other characters. like auron. he is a main character like sepheroth.
so pretty much im stuck between them two
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:31 pm
Narcissus of Death Ravenwolf Narcissus of Death See, that is the thing. Since Final Fantasy VII as more screen time, run offs, and spin offs, it is only natural that fans of that specific serie will choose the it's hero as the more powerful one out of them all. If Final Fantasy VIII had a movie which showed Squall acquire more skills and move at a fast rate, the fans would view him even more of a bad a** then he is now and cooler then any other main character. Which is why I am stick with the games and not it's spin offs. But even though you say they attack in a stright line (though I do not believe in such a thing when it actually comes to battles), yea Cloud might have struch Terra or Zidane down. But who is to say one of those two (who ever he goes up against) won't strike him first? If. If. If Squall had a spin-off in which he did the things Cloud does, that would be one thing. As he does not, we have no choice but to assume he cannot do those things. Advent Children is canon, and I see no reason why it can't be counted (Kingdom Hearts, though, I wouldn't count). True, true, for speed... But counting Advent Children, I'm going to have to say that Cloud is pretty dang fast anyway. So, yeah, unless we get an official ruling on whether spin-offs count, I'm afraid we'll have to agree to disagree. On another note, I would probably vote Beatrix... If she were the main character. She's really not even a full-time PC. Which is why I, myself, am not counting Advent Children. It is really unfair to the other series and of course it will automatically have Cloud as the winner since it shows he can do so much more then any other. Stronger, faster, better, and all that jazz.
The only ones that has a chance against Cloud, if we do include the sequels, is Yuna and Squall. I am going to over look the crappy plot in this one and head straight for the skills. Yuna because it shows that she knows how to use multiple weapons and acquires more skills (such as the ability to JUMP). Squall already had a chance since he has two weapons in one. And the skills that man has!
But if we don't include the sequels and spin offs, then other characters will have a chance. From the white mage of Final Fantasy (since there is no 'main' character in the first one) to Vaan of Final Fantasy XII (since his skills is heavily over looked due to his effeminate features, much to my disappointment... ). Even characters from Crystal Chronicles or Tactics.
Which is why I only speak for myself when I say that Zidane or Terra really does have a chance against Cloud. For when it comes to battles, there is no such thing as a 'gentlemen' battle (unless you want them to fight in the early 1700's, were you did take turns in firing). Speed can be everything. You can swing a sword all day with all your might and not hit a thing.
Either way, choosing the best main character is is difficult. For me that is since I had a chance to fight with all the main characters.
Then again, who cares about what I say? I'm just another person who hates Final Fantasy VII (which is not the case, thank you very much) and will do absolutely everything in my power to destroy it's very image... (I hope you all can detect the sarcasm in that last sentence) You're right; it's not really fair... Bu you can't make it fair without giving other characters sequels, 'cause I don't think it's fair to ignore canon storyline points, either. Now that you mention it, though, Yuna does get as strong as she gets unbearable. I think in X-2, she could definitely stand a chance, but I'm still going with Cloud, if only bearly, because even assuming she's invincible or something while changing dresspheres (which, incidentally, has nothing to do with my next point), some of the dresspheres in general suck. Black magic is all but useless in the game, I've found, while (and I haven't even gotten into this yet,) materia could help Cloud so incredibly much I don't feel like coming up with an analogy. Y'know, I'm usually not one to go spouting "omg7 is teh best!!!11cloudpwns," but I really, honestly believe that Cloud could kick their asses. sweatdrop
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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:41 pm
As far as this debate goes I can honestly say that it's interesting enough for me even to simply stay out of it and watch. I think I'll just stick with that for now and see where this goes. Perhaps after more amounts of debate we might even convince demo to make this precise battle in his who would win topic and stress that there should only be well thought out votes, perhaps even a debate on the votes before they are allowed. It's pretty intriguingm so I think for now I'll just keep some tabs on what's going on.
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:17 am
 NarcissusOfDeath ~*~*~*~*~
Which is why I am ignoring the sequels and prequels and whatever comes before and after those. Not to mention that they all barely makes any sense to the original storyline. Also if I would include them all, then Vincent and Zack would go there too. And I have to admit, Zack wins. I mean (Spoils! Highlight at your own risk!!!)have you seen Cloud going up against a whole army on his own? Hell no. You always see him fighting with someone else or someone saving his sorry a**. And what do I mean by army? Well I'd tell you, but I don't think you would believe me. Also, Zack actually managed to get into SOLIDER, fight Sephiroth face to face and LIVED. Cloud, being the cheep shot little b***h he is (ha ha ha ha ha! XD ), only survived because he managed to catch Sephiroth off guard. (Now that I think about it, that is a grand accomplishment itself. I mean, if the General is as great as everyone claims him to be, then he shouldn't have taken the blow. Victorious and admiring his mother or no, THE GENERAL HAS NO EXCUSE! *shakes fist* Good job Cloud. Oh yea, the explanation.) And THAT is only on one game. How many spin offs did Cloud have to appear in to maintain and gain more popularity? Oh... only in all of them. As well as games that has no connection to the game (but that's only because Square makes them). So then Zack has managed to show his power without appearing in so many games or movies. Which is why HE wins in my book, if I included the spin offs.
But I'm not. :3
Yes, you are entitled to your opinion. Which is why I will not say anything about that last remark and stick the my own beliefs.(Because I think that is very much impossible. If Cloud were to kick their asses, then he would have to struggle to gain that victory. Who would be the victor? I don't know myself. I'll just have to wait for Dissidia, won't I?) And no, I don't think you are one of those people who does that kind of crap. (Reffering to the 'omg7 is teh best' thing) Because unlike them, you manage to point out facts.
~Narcissus of Death ~*~*~*~*~
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:20 pm
Personally I don't count anything Cloud did in Advent children because it completely ignored most of his capabilities that were set during the game. Also, imagine how immensely powerful Terra would be if there was a movie of the same caliber. Correct me if I'm wrong, since it's been a large number of years since I've gone through FF6, but didn't Terra destroy a city or two when she went berserk the first time she turned full esper? I could be mistaken... But I personally think that Terra would be much more powerful than Cloud could ever handle.
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:24 pm
On Zack... I know not Crisis Core (yet), so I can't say about him, nor will I read the spoilers, but while yeah, he had to have been awesome, and he was certainly better than Cloud at the time they were both around, Cloud did get an awful lot better afterwards. As for a popularity contest... I personally like Zack much better, but yeah, Cloud still wins. Maluc Fieri Personally I don't count anything Cloud did in Advent children because it completely ignored most of his capabilities that were set during the game. Also, imagine how immensely powerful Terra would be if there was a movie of the same caliber. Correct me if I'm wrong, since it's been a large number of years since I've gone through FF6, but didn't Terra destroy a city or two when she went berserk the first time she turned full esper? I could be mistaken... But I personally think that Terra would be much more powerful than Cloud could ever handle. The thing about his capabilities set during the game is that part of the reason, I'm sure, that they were set is because it's a game. That does make it rather unfair for the others, but as I've said already... Yeah. Okay. Upon learning that about Terra (*fails at VI*), I hereby believe that she has a chance. I can't really say, though, because I don't know much about it.
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:49 am
Ravenwolf On Zack... I know not Crisis Core (yet), so I can't say about him, nor will I read the spoilers, but while yeah, he had to have been awesome, and he was certainly better than Cloud at the time they were both around, Cloud did get an awful lot better afterwards. As for a popularity contest... I personally like Zack much better, but yeah, Cloud still wins. Maluc Fieri Personally I don't count anything Cloud did in Advent children because it completely ignored most of his capabilities that were set during the game. Also, imagine how immensely powerful Terra would be if there was a movie of the same caliber. Correct me if I'm wrong, since it's been a large number of years since I've gone through FF6, but didn't Terra destroy a city or two when she went berserk the first time she turned full esper? I could be mistaken... But I personally think that Terra would be much more powerful than Cloud could ever handle. The thing about his capabilities set during the game is that part of the reason, I'm sure, that they were set is because it's a game. That does make it rather unfair for the others, but as I've said already... Yeah. Okay. Upon learning that about Terra (*fails at VI*), I hereby believe that she has a chance. I can't really say, though, because I don't know much about it. You... play FFVI... NOW.... I swear if you don't I'll quit your little elimination thread.... neutral
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:11 pm
Maluc Fieri You... play FFVI... NOW.... I swear if you don't I'll quit your little elimination thread.... neutral  I will, I will, I promise! I just... Have to finish VIII again. And my friend won't lend me .hack//G.U. until I finish Tales of Symphonia, so I have to do that... I swear I will, though. I actually can now that I have a PS3.
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:03 pm
Having played both Tales of Symphonia and .hack//....any(seriously I have all 7 games) I can easily say that FFVI takes priority.... and since you've already finished FFVIII before you need to get FFVI out of the way first... Just go focus on that one for now.
*wants a PS3 reallly bad*
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