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Kaki Pan

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:25 pm


Sure. No hard feelings.
PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 11:37 pm


Zher
Yea... i mean in the quote of Marlyn Manson "Reach out and touch faith" . People of Gaia, prove to me there is a God. You cant... the Pagan religion (not non-Christians, the branches of Paganism) is much more believable. I mean its all there in front of you, the elements, Sun, Moon, you can see it... Its there... is God? nobody in this guild, or on earth can tell me yes. Because do they honestly know? No... But even as i sit typing this i hope God forgives me. I am really doubting, but i deep down think there is a God. But what? I dunno...

Youth group seems to have lost its meaning too... I just space out and silently criticize the lesson.

I dunno what to do.


I have been seeing more and more points and meaning behind what my Anti-Christians friends are saying, I have been doing drugs... All in all... Life ******** sucks

Well, it's true that we can't just prove that Kami-sama (means God in Japanese....sorry, learning Japanese and my sensei says it helps me by doing this) is real by showing him to you, but that's just it. You can't just look at Him directly. You'll die! The Bible says that you can't look at Kami-sama directly because He is too holy to look at....or something like that anyway. He is real, though. Pagan stuff might seem that it's more real and believable but if you looked more closley at it, you'd see how much it contradicts. Please pray to Kami-sama more, even if you don't think He is real. Don't lose your faith, please. I don't want you to go to Hell. cry Just pray more about it, okay? It'll help. Read the Bible and pray lots. Okay?

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IcarusDream

PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:19 am


The only thing that could take you back to the faith, I think, is some good time with an extremely well trained theologian. He might be able to put things in perspective, and explain Christian teachings.
PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:25 pm


Zher: I'd like to say that it wasn't Marilyn Manson who came up with that quote.

Rather, it's from Depeche Mode's "Personal Jesus".
In case you didn't know, they made the original.
Random fact: Johnny Cash also covered this song. One of these days, I'd like to know why, as Cash, from what I know, was a Christian at the point in life that he covered this. Maybe there's more to it than meets the eye.



I would also encourage you in this: Experience makes for trial. Trial refines faith. Faith without trial is just faith in name.
With that said, persevere - keep on keeping on. I'm not going to say anything dogmatic or somesuch. When you're going through trial, you need something real to hold onto - I realize that. God uses everyone as support, really. You find who your real friends are - Christian or not, it really doesn't matter, as long as you aren't pressured to change who you know yourself to be (the "Christian" mindset included) for them - and you persevere in reading God's word. The Bible can surprise you sometimes in what it's got to say in the midst of struggle, trial, and so on. I'd say, if you don't know where to start reading, that it might be a good idea to talk to a pastor - ask him/her to recommend just a random passage of scripture.

These are just my two cents.

Gambol

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Mjolnir The Hammer

PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:33 pm


Gambol
Zher: I'd like to say that it wasn't Marilyn Manson who came up with that quote.

Rather, it's from Depeche Mode's "Personal Jesus".
In case you didn't know, they made the original.
Random fact: Johnny Cash also covered this song. One of these days, I'd like to know why, as Cash, from what I know, was a Christian at the point in life that he covered this. Maybe there's more to it than meets the eye.



I would also encourage you in this: Experience makes for trial. Trial refines faith. Faith without trial is just faith in name.
With that said, persevere - keep on keeping on. I'm not going to say anything dogmatic or somesuch. When you're going through trial, you need something real to hold onto - I realize that. God uses everyone as support, really. You find who your real friends are - Christian or not, it really doesn't matter, as long as you aren't pressured to change who you know yourself to be (the "Christian" mindset included) for them - and you persevere in reading God's word. The Bible can surprise you sometimes in what it's got to say in the midst of struggle, trial, and so on. I'd say, if you don't know where to start reading, that it might be a good idea to talk to a pastor - ask him/her to recommend just a random passage of scripture.

These are just my two cents.
I concur Gambol. That's all very well said and it, funnily enough, relates to how I've gained a foothold in my faith. By the way, how long you been in the guild? Haven't seen you around. xd
PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:37 pm


maplestoryjunky
I concur Gambol. That's all very well said and it, funnily enough, relates to how I've gained a foothold in my faith. By the way, how long you been in the guild? Haven't seen you around. xd


My avatar's actually in the first "avatar banner" of the guild.
So... um. Two and a half years? xd

I don't show up very often because I forget sometimes that there's even a guild function to this place. I lurk more than anything, really.


I'm learning a lot these days. Why? Life sucks. xd

Gambol

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Mjolnir The Hammer

PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 10:00 pm


Gambol
maplestoryjunky
I concur Gambol. That's all very well said and it, funnily enough, relates to how I've gained a foothold in my faith. By the way, how long you been in the guild? Haven't seen you around. xd


My avatar's actually in the first "avatar banner" of the guild.
So... um. Two and a half years? xd

I don't show up very often because I forget sometimes that there's even a guild function to this place. I lurk more than anything, really.


I'm learning a lot these days. Why? Life sucks. xd

I can agree with you on the lurking part. wink
Two and a half years........ AHHH!!!! gonk
rofl
PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 7:33 am


Romans 1:18-23
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For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Prfessin to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:21 pm


I have pagan friends. They don't worship the sun or the moon. Pagan's don't worship the sun and moon.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:56 pm


Wow there is a lot of response on this thread! Well, I havn't read all of it but this response is for Zher. I think maplejunkstory makes an excellent point and I'd just like to add a few words of encouragement. I think everyone doubts now and again, (and people who don't are EXTREMELY blessed) and thats ok! I know I do it. The thing is to instead of letting your doubts make a huge canyon of doubt, actively look into God's word, for yourself to see what answers there are, about life, the universe and everything (yes I know Hitchikers joke). Because to me, the Bible makes the most sense out of life that I've ever heard. (It used to be hard for me to read, but I got the New Living Translation which i LOVE cause its so easy to understand.)
Also, I think the you should rememeber the most important thing. God LOVES YOU, and sent JESUS to SAVE you, and satan wants you to think that he doesn't even exsist. How can you love someone back if you think he doesn't exsist? If I were you, I would spend some time praying and thinking...Who do I want to run my life?
I've gone to church all my life, but I didn't seriously make the commitment, that I , myself, wanted Jesus in my heart and to be the head of life until I was 10 years old, and whenever I feel like my life is off track, I fall back down again and say "Jesus, I want YOU to run my life, and I want you in my heart."
This makes me feel better 100 percent of the time.
Good luck and God Bless!

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:53 pm


I sort of am too but why do you think i applied to join this guild? To try and renew that faith! Don't ever give up your faith or hope!

CGood Luck and God bless!
PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 6:54 pm


Okay, although you can't see God, and yet see the moon, the stars, and sun, and everything else, who do you think actually made those things? And even then, those things are just balls of fire spinning around in space. I have a story to tell okay, and listen, cuz u need too biggrin :
My whole life I've never believed in God or Jesus Christ. My whole family except for my mom and stepdad and mom's family, are catholic. I never believed. Then when I started seventh grade I started going into the dark side, I was more or less demonic. And then it got worse in eigth grade where I was actually praying to the demon gods and stuff, and I was a host for a demon. And I then thought Jesus was the bad guy, which is sooo wrong, but at the time, that's what I thought. Then, now, I'm in the ninth grade, my bestest friend Deena, like practically dragged me to her church, and after that, I finally felt good about myself, the demon left, my parents had me have an excercism, that hurt, painful i tell you. But I felt good about myself, and then I talked to Deena about it, and she was so into God, that I was just amazed. And I was like "wow" I wish that could be me, so full of life, yet be a Goth. And yeah, then I started to go to church with her. And now I go every Wensday and Sunday, and pray everyday and read the bible everyday! And I've changed so much, that, that is my proof there is a God, even Pastor Jerry told me I was an inspiration to him. But my dad doesnt like me going to a non-denominational church. I'm a Christ Follower, not a Catholic. But my mom likes it, but she hasn't started going yet. But now I am in love with God, and I follow God in every way I possibly can. And I just started to believe in God and Jesus Christ like a month ago. But that's my proof there's a God. If you read the bible, then he'll speak to you through his word.

imagoodhugger


Tarantellatears

PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:34 am


Faith's a hard thing to build. After all, you're believing in someone who's INVISIBLE! But you know, he makes himself perfectly visible in a different way. You can see Him every day in your life, if you just look around. Corny though it may be, it's true. Just make sure that when your faith is restored, it's yours, and not someone elses. Actually, when people lose faith, it's often because they never had it in the first place. It was someone elses - mayber their family's, and they were living off it. If it truely is your faith, it won't be so easy to fade.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:35 am


Lady Kayura
I have pagan friends. They don't worship the sun or the moon. Pagan's don't worship the sun and moon.


no, they don't. I can't really remember what it is they worship though. Isn't it just the earth? gaia? (haha) or something like that?

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:07 pm


I know what you mean... Well... About losing faith in God. Last year, during christian, I was UBER christian like "PRAISE GOD!!!!!" uber christian. And then... all of a sudden, science came into perspective and I was like "well, this is proven, and this in the bible isn't." So then, I turned like "UBER ATHIEST!!!" And then, awhile ago, I felt empty without a religion. So I found one, which was buddhism, and I was content, for a few days. And then I felt this calling like, a feeling to come back to christianity, and I kept holding it off. And then my parents made me go to church, and that's when my resistince fell and God came back into my life, and since then my life has been better than it has been in a long time! Praise God!

I suggest, if you have Itunes, to subscribe to the Bible Study Podcast and listen to some of them on evolution and questions and what not. I know that that helped renew my faith. Also, I suggest reading the "Left Behind" series, and not the kid series, the adult series is muchly better. Please, stop the drugs and come back to see the love of God! I'll pray for you!
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