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 Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 6:31 pm
Eikon Theos God didn't go to much trouble JUST for the Nephilim. The world was turning into a hellhole. So He wiped it out. If any Nephilim were good enough people, they'd have gotten on the Ark. I wouldn't put much stock in the book of Enoch - he was taken to heaven and never put back here, there's not much he could've written about.
Also, it does seem to go along with the Canon: like you said, the people who weren't on the Ark were unclean. Noah and his family didn't seem to have any angelic blood, so we can speculate that angelic blood was something that God did not want in the world.
Of course, when it comes to the Bible, everything is just a matter of how you interpret it. xd
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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:56 pm
Huh...Here's a thought:
What if Nephilim could reincarnate themselves? I had a dream involving what immediately came into my head as a "nephilim dragon," or Draco nephilim, for some reason. Basically, I got to see one shift out of quite a nice human form and feed...Not that pretty. Meh. I make up monsters all the time based off of my dreams, so if anyone wants to see what I have on these beings, please let me know.
I dunno. Given the random theories that humans were created to serve reptilian humanoids, I suppose we could be thinking of "angels" in the wrong sense. If I recall, the root word simply translates to "messenger."
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:36 am
Okay, if you are talking Canonical vs. non-Canonical text, then keep in mind that during Vatican I, a bunch of old guys sat around and determined, based on society at the time, what was to go in the Bible.
During that time, Christianity was facing a great resistance from the Celtic Nations, which, oh, spread halfway across Europe. Any text that suggested supernatural creatures other than God, Jesus, or the Devil, would not be included. The Celtic traditions long purported the ideas of fairies, demons, boggarts, etc. The last thing the Christian church would do at that time is support anything suggesting beings like that existed.
Another thing to remember is that the Bible we read today is not how it was first written. If anyone has (or has already had) the opportunity to see the Dead Sea Scrolls, I highly suggest it. Your view on the Bible will be changed.
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:44 am
Astridhaze Okay, if you are talking Canonical vs. non-Canonical text, then keep in mind that during Vatican I, a bunch of old guys sat around and determined, based on society at the time, what was to go in the Bible. During that time, Christianity was facing a great resistance from the Celtic Nations, which, oh, spread halfway across Europe. Any text that suggested supernatural creatures other than God, Jesus, or the Devil, would not be included. The Celtic traditions long purported the ideas of fairies, demons, boggarts, etc. The last thing the Christian church would do at that time is support anything suggesting beings like that existed. Another thing to remember is that the Bible we read today is not how it was first written. If anyone has (or has already had) the opportunity to see the Dead Sea Scrolls, I highly suggest it. Your view on the Bible will be changed. points. I do know about such modifications (such as removing Lilith...GRRR stressed ). I also want to check out the Dead Sea Scrolls sometime...
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 4:47 pm
Astridhaze Another thing to remember is that the Bible we read today is not how it was first written. If anyone has (or has already had) the opportunity to see the Dead Sea Scrolls, I highly suggest it. Your view on the Bible will be changed.
Isn't Enoch one of the dead sea scrolls? [EDIT: I checked, nevermind xd Apparently it's yes and no.] I've read Enoch and Thomas, but I've also seen Mary and even Judas floating around (those should be interesting). I've been wanting to get my hands on a complete collection of translations of the dead sea scrolls. ninja
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:23 pm
What are the texts of the Ugarit? I know that Tartarus is the name of one of the punishment realms in Hades according to Ancient Greek Myth. Then again, there are certain names that seem to have been stolen elsewhere in Biblical text. Astaroth is according to some, a play on words meant to imitate Ishtar. Quote: Ishtar (DIŠTAR DINGIR INANNA 𒀭𒌋𒁯) is the Assyrian and Babylonian counterpart to the Sumerian Inanna and to the cognate northwest Semitic goddess Astarte. Anunit, Atarsamain and Esther are alternative names for Ishtar. In fact, this whole article is indeed interesting when compared to Biblical text. Such as the portion of the Epic of Gilgamesh where Ishtar warns that she will send up the dead to eat the living (another source claims it is to eat the food of the living), but in either way.... In Revelations, it speaks of the dead walking amongst the living.
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 7:12 pm
Lila Malvae What are the texts of the Ugarit? I know that Tartarus is the name of one of the punishment realms in Hades according to Ancient Greek Myth. Then again, there are certain names that seem to have been stolen elsewhere in Biblical text. Astaroth is according to some, a play on words meant to imitate Ishtar. Quote: Ishtar (DIŠTAR DINGIR INANNA 𒀭𒌋𒁯) is the Assyrian and Babylonian counterpart to the Sumerian Inanna and to the cognate northwest Semitic goddess Astarte. Anunit, Atarsamain and Esther are alternative names for Ishtar. In fact, this whole article is indeed interesting when compared to Biblical text. Such as the portion of the Epic of Gilgamesh where Ishtar warns that she will send up the dead to eat the living (another source claims it is to eat the food of the living), but in either way.... In Revelations, it speaks of the dead walking amongst the living. Hehe, I never thought of it that way...But you're right. 3nodding Zombies! I kinda dislike that they made Astaroth a male demon...But there are a few female characters around named Astaroth. Good that someone caught on.
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 5:33 pm
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