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Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 7:33 pm
Rebel Girl wretchedpuppet Rebel Girl wow, everyone here seems to have such developed ambitions. i always hear about the girls who supposedly want nothing more than to marry their high school sweetheart and have a shitload of kids; where are these girls?
well, i can think of one example. i have a friend named chelsea and she has an e-boyfriend. she''s 14 and a rising freshman in alabama; he''s 17 and just graduated high school in new york. she wants nothing more than to be with him. in fact, he came down to visit this weekend [it''s their first time to meet in person; they were introduced by a mutual friend]. right now they''re off having sex in his hotel room, and i''m supposed to be covering for her. he wants her to go back to new york with him. apparently you can get married at 14 in new york [?]. he''s going to be a garbage man to support their children. and the sad thing is, she''s seriously considering this plan. I would do something about it, because she is going to ******** up her life sooo bad. I did stupid s**t like that when I was the same age, but I never went as far as to abandoning my family for the guy I thought I loved. But he was the worst person in the world to me, he treated my like dirt, and even cheated on me god knows how many times. And even if this guy isn''t scum, he still won''t be able to support her or any kids they have. Plus having kids so young isn''t healthy for her or the kid. And she''ll be in for a rude awakening when she realizes she can''t have the things she was used to because everything will be going towards rent and kids and food. She''ll have nothing. Plus she''ll have no social life, that kinda ends when you have a kid, especially if you can''t afford everything a child needs. She''ll never have it easy because she''ll never be able to get a decent job because she won''t be able to finish school (at least not easily) and getting a good well paying job is hard with just a high school diploma. It''d be really selfish and greedy if she does this s**t too, if she gives a damn about her friends and family, at least. Tell her parents or someone who can stop this s**t before she does more stupid s**t. If he really cares about her, he''ll realize she needs to finish school, and he needs to get either a decent job (not a garbage man) or go to a community college to get some training or a degree in something. If he really loves her, he''ll wait for her. you realize all of this. i realize all of this. everyone seems to realize this - except chelsea and david. even when i explicitly explain it to her. it''s so frustrating. i haven''t talked to her since the night she was supposed to go stay in his hotel room; i can only hope that she''s just grounded and not in new york. if something happened and she''s gone, i will definitely tell her parents where she went if someone else hasn''t already.
funny that you said the last line. i totally agree, but in his words: "two people who are in love can''t wait". except there was a lot more chatspeak.This situation really sucks, I hope your friend wises up because I only see 3 outcomes if she decides to go: 1) She bails and comes back home (hopefully) 2) She'll end up as a single mother 3) She'll stuggle with finances the rest of her life or at least a very long time I really hope for the best for your friend sad
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 9:05 pm
my friend is grounded. i think she got caught. but i talked to her for a little while and she only got to third base, she says. but still. i don't see how you can meet someone for the first time and spend the night in their hotel room almost-but-not-quite having sex. especially when you're only 14.
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 4:00 pm
Rebel Girl my friend is grounded. i think she got caught. but i talked to her for a little while and she only got to third base, she says. but still. i don't see how you can meet someone for the first time and spend the night in their hotel room almost-but-not-quite having sex. especially when you're only 14. yay! parental intervention! even if she did have sex with him, her parents aren't gong to let her run off with him.
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 10:57 pm
shizznazzled Rebel Girl my friend is grounded. i think she got caught. but i talked to her for a little while and she only got to third base, she says. but still. i don't see how you can meet someone for the first time and spend the night in their hotel room almost-but-not-quite having sex. especially when you're only 14. yay! parental intervention! even if she did have sex with him, her parents aren't gong to let her run off with him. no, they're not; in fact, her mother has banned her from dating him. i didn't find out much more from our 5-minute conversation when she snuck on the computer, however. do you think that her mother should have banned her from talking to him? though i don't agree with her low ambitions, i don't think she should be completely banned from him. she should be grounded, and their relationship should be monitored for a while. i think i'm going to help them keep in touch, if only as friends.
i didn't mean for this to become a thread solely about chelsea. if anyone else has any other examples, please post them.
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:49 am
I may be a romantic but I believe in soul mates & that certain people are always meant to be in your life. But I don't believe that a 'soul mate' actually has to be your partner, by helping her be with him but by also seeing sense on the issue I think you're probably her soul mate not this guy who wants her to move so far so young & isn't considering any chance of a future for her!!
Don't worry if you distracted us your story is more interesting than anything we had to say!!
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 4:43 pm
i don't really think i'm her soulmate. honestly, i don't like her that much. she's one of those people who you really love sometimes, but other times they get on your nerves and drive you insane.
in their minds, there is a future for them. it's being together.
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 8:49 am
I have had friends like that (still have some!) I usually end up having a big argument thn spend my years missing them trust me enjoy the good points!!
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 9:02 am
i live in a pretty industrious area and everyone is expected to college and then after they get a high paying job, get married and have kids. most girls in my highschool are expected to be beautiful and get good grades at all costs. i guess you could say that i live in the classic suburban hell. all the girls try out for the cheerleading squad, and if you're a fat girl people will be nice to you and then talk about how ugly you are when they think you can't hear them. all the boys are expected to try out for a sports team. and if you try out for a pansy sport like track (there's not enough competition involved) then you're ultimately treated differently.
also, since we have a very high number of black, asian, filipino, and other ethinic groups in my school, everyone sort of segregates themselves based on race. it's weird to have bi-racial friendships. and i'm postive that the standards and ambitions for each of these races is a little bit different. sometimes i wish i wasn't white because i just have no clue about other cultures. i feel like if i were talking to a group of ethnically diverse people what i'm saying would probably only apply to the other white people. plus although i know i've faced some discrimination for being a girl, i know it's not as much as say a black or asain woman has faced because they also have to deal with cultural differences as well as gender differencs. it makes me crazy.
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 5:03 am
Well, I'm currently in the equivalent of college in the french canadian (quebec!) system, basically it's two or three years of a post-highschool pre-university education. I'm studying in social science and fine arts. I'm hoping to be an English and Art teacher, then move on to working part time as a teacher, part time as an Art Therapist. The only thing is, I have no idea how that'd work... or if it'd work. So wish me luck! I guess. I'm so glad I have another year and a half to decide before submitting for entree into a bachelors degree program!
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Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 12:40 pm
I don't know what my ambitions are. Maybe to have a good job where I don't have to stare at a computer all day while my brain turns to mush. What this job will be, I do not know. I don't even know what I'll be taking once I get to collage (if I ever get enough money) What I hate is how everyone expects you to know what you want to at such an early age when half the time the people asking you the question don't even know what they want to do. Where I am, it seems exceptable for guys to waffel around, but us girls just have to know. Either we work in an office, teach, or squeeze out babies. No way I'm doing any of that.
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Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 7:40 pm
shiznazzled - that's so close to how my community is. it's 98% conservative, and everyone is really religious. the girls' lives: take a few advanced classes, go to an okay college, get a useless degree, get married, have kids, be a stay-at-home-mom. the end. i know of two people in our entire 2,000-kid junior high/high school population that have come out as gay - it's looked upon as a sin. everyone is verrrrry conservative, bible-thumping christian. one of my friends meets with another of her friends in the library every tuesday before school to compare good bible verses. she is my friend because she clearly stated her beliefs to me soon after we met and thus i respect them.
yes, i am religious. i'm a reform jew, which is one of the few religious groups that is pro-choice/pro-homosexuality. i'm also very ambitious and competitive and sometimes this makes me bitchy. i like the other advanced kids, but at the same time i befriend very few of them because they're my main competition for honours.
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:35 am
I wanna draw children's books, live in an apartment, and be single for the rest of my life. xd
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