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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:17 am


Kuroudo Akabane
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Kuroudo Akabane
Baulder
Damn... Someone that powerful, are you sure he's earthbound?


http://www.gaiaonline.com/guilds/viewtopic.php?t=8366503

Yes, out of Marvel characters that even hand Superman his a**, the top three likely are Thor, The Hulk, and the Silver Surfer. That said they're also capable of taking one another out as well.

However, sans Silver Surfer since you're eliminating alien beings and since
The Hulk himself is the target of the question here, that leaves only Thor as
the only candidate as far as Earthbound characters are concerned.

Thor is EXACTLY WHO his name says he is. He IS THOR, Norse god of
thunder and lightning. While he is a god, he's still a deity of Earth origin;
born there and raised there so technically Gamma does have a point.

Now, if you want to eliminate gods out of the question as well then that
changes things drastically.


One point Gamma did leave out though is that Thor is faster than The
Hulk as he is capable of traveling at lightspeed at least.


As for Phoenix, she's an Omega-Classed mutant and surpasses
Magento in power, though he did kill her, as Magneto is only
considered Alpha-Class.

http://en.marveldatabase.com/Jean_Grey_(Earth-616)


2 clarifications: Thor can fly with his hammer through space faster than light. However, that is flight propelled by his hammer. His actual physical speed and reaction times are not anywhere near lightspeed.

Another is that not only is he a Norse God which makes his technically of Earth origin. In the Marvel Universe his mother is Gaea herself. Odin has a child with her knowing it would have the potential to be not only more powerful than the standard Norse God, but also eventually more powerful than Odin himself. You don't get more earthbound than being son of the planet. xd


Hardly matters in the end though. Thor has handed the Surfer his a**
on several occasions and the Surfer is highly likely the faster of the two.
It's also been well established that travel speed and combat speed differs.

If you want to talk about reflexes and combat speed, Pietro probably
holds that title being Marvel's closest thing to The Flash.


Reason Thor can lay a hand on let alone beat SS is due to PIS. SS reflex speed is easily at multiples of light speed. He doesn't usually fight at that speed against characters based on Earth for the same reason Flash doesn't when fighting the Rogues. Darkseid doesn't get jobbed by DC half as bad as the Surfer does by Marvel.
PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:55 am


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Kuroudo Akabane
Gamma Charge
Kuroudo Akabane
Baulder
Damn... Someone that powerful, are you sure he's earthbound?


http://www.gaiaonline.com/guilds/viewtopic.php?t=8366503

Yes, out of Marvel characters that even hand Superman his a**, the top three likely are Thor, The Hulk, and the Silver Surfer. That said they're also capable of taking one another out as well.

However, sans Silver Surfer since you're eliminating alien beings and since
The Hulk himself is the target of the question here, that leaves only Thor as
the only candidate as far as Earthbound characters are concerned.

Thor is EXACTLY WHO his name says he is. He IS THOR, Norse god of
thunder and lightning. While he is a god, he's still a deity of Earth origin;
born there and raised there so technically Gamma does have a point.

Now, if you want to eliminate gods out of the question as well then that
changes things drastically.


One point Gamma did leave out though is that Thor is faster than The
Hulk as he is capable of traveling at lightspeed at least.


As for Phoenix, she's an Omega-Classed mutant and surpasses
Magento in power, though he did kill her, as Magneto is only
considered Alpha-Class.

http://en.marveldatabase.com/Jean_Grey_(Earth-616)


2 clarifications: Thor can fly with his hammer through space faster than light. However, that is flight propelled by his hammer. His actual physical speed and reaction times are not anywhere near lightspeed.

Another is that not only is he a Norse God which makes his technically of Earth origin. In the Marvel Universe his mother is Gaea herself. Odin has a child with her knowing it would have the potential to be not only more powerful than the standard Norse God, but also eventually more powerful than Odin himself. You don't get more earthbound than being son of the planet. xd


Hardly matters in the end though. Thor has handed the Surfer his a**
on several occasions and the Surfer is highly likely the faster of the two.
It's also been well established that travel speed and combat speed differs.

If you want to talk about reflexes and combat speed, Pietro probably
holds that title being Marvel's closest thing to The Flash.


Reason Thor can lay a hand on let alone beat SS is due to PIS. SS reflex speed is easily at multiples of light speed. He doesn't usually fight at that speed against characters based on Earth for the same reason Flash doesn't when fighting the Rogues. Darkseid doesn't get jobbed by DC half as bad as the Surfer does by Marvel.


I'd say that's partially true.

Yes, PIS can be credited to it probably a great deal.
Again, Thor's handed the Surfer his a** on several
occasions and to go on a bit of a tangent here, in
Superman v. Thor, more people tend to lean towards
Thor and Superman's reflexes and speed are also
equally at multiple times the speed of light. Furthermore
the Surfer is a much better choice between the two
because he doesn't have the kryptonite Achilles Heel.

My conclusion is that speed may not always be enough
(though I tend to favor it more myself) to take down an
opponent who relies on brute strength if especially if
durability is an issue, though Spidey did beat Hulk once
due to reflexes and speed (and brains for that matter).

Again, this can be credited to PIS but I wouldn't say it's
the whole reason. Comics don't dismiss the laws of physics
altogether while making up they're own. It's the reason
why someone like The Flash can "possibly" beat
Superman when Superman has better parameters as his
are more balanced all-around whereas The Flash is
predominantly speed.

Kuroudo Akabane

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