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 Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:16 am
Oh I should add that some moves in some Asian martial arts were borrowed from European. Certain throws in Aikido, for example, were borrowed from the Grecian wrestling techniques.
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 2:48 pm
Savate is kick boxing from france; there's not alot more to it than that; but it's the first thing one thinks of for "european martial arts." Sambo (random link) is awesome from Russia. It's martial arts wrestling, wow. Apparently, most people, who didn't buy their black belts from master cho/yoon/whoever (I know those are korean and not japanese) in the strip mall on main st., cross train in sambo, jiujitsu, and brazilian wrestling. The head fencing coach at Drew U. has a really ugly website where he's like "I can teach you about both of these things, but I don't teach kicking stuff cause it's a bore" Oh, hello.
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 3:22 pm
Henry_Eats_Synecdoche Savate is kick boxing from france; there's not alot more to it than that; but it's the first thing one thinks of for "european martial arts." Sambo (random link) is awesome from Russia. It's martial arts wrestling, wow. Apparently, most people, who didn't buy their black belts from master cho/yoon/whoever (I know those are korean and not japanese) in the strip mall on main st., cross train in sambo, jiujitsu, and brazilian wrestling. The head fencing coach at Drew U. has a really ugly website where he's like "I can teach you about both of these things, but I don't teach kicking stuff cause it's a bore" Oh, hello. Savate is more of dirty kickboxing as i've said before. Sambo is much like judo. But if focuses on ground work alot, particularly leglocks. There's more to it than that but I'm not particularly interested in explaining it further.
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 3:33 pm
Look in HES' Sambo link.
Look at the uniform specifications.
The pants should be tight, it says so right there.
Mirko, this sambo thing of yours is ******** GAY. xd
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 3:53 pm
Lunaries Oh I should add that some moves in some Asian martial arts were borrowed from European. Certain throws in Aikido, for example, were borrowed from the Grecian wrestling techniques. Could you site some examples please? Aikido techniques seem to be all about the redirection of force and utilisation of wrist and joint locks. Roman Greco Wrestling is upper body exclusive, each technique based upon attacking a weaker muscle group with a stronger one of your own, though technique plays an important part, due to it's very nature size does matter. Which is something, to me, seems unlikely to gel with Aikido, Though watching Aikidoka suplex each other etc would be freaking awesome.
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 10:31 am
Mirko_Filipovic Savate is more of dirty kickboxing as i've said before. Actually, Savate is much more than "dirty kickboxing". What kind of information are you guys looking for on it?
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:44 pm
Thunder Foot Mirko_Filipovic Savate is more of dirty kickboxing as i've said before. Actually, Savate is much more than "dirty kickboxing". What kind of information are you guys looking for on it? Haha I promise to take the Savate questions if you make a thread on Dumog and Panatukan? cool Also, Sambo has its origins in Judo. Shortly after the inclusion of the Fusen Ryu Ne-Waza and the further development of the guard, along with additional submissions etc, some Russian students studied under Kano and his teacher. On returning to Russia, the integrated and merged Judo with alot of the popular folk style Russian wrestling, forming Sambo. Typically Sambo disallows chokes, thats the jist of it. Savate is, as Thunder said, more then dirty kick boxing. In fact it's a fairly complex style, famed for its lightning fast kicks. If you have any questions, fire away.
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:23 pm
Jass Thunder Foot Mirko_Filipovic Savate is more of dirty kickboxing as i've said before. Actually, Savate is much more than "dirty kickboxing". What kind of information are you guys looking for on it? Haha I promise to take the Savate questions if you make a thread on Dumog and Panatukan? cool Also, Sambo has its origins in Judo. Shortly after the inclusion of the Fusen Ryu Ne-Waza and the further development of the guard, along with additional submissions etc, some Russian students studied under Kano and his teacher. On returning to Russia, the integrated and merged Judo with alot of the popular folk style Russian wrestling, forming Sambo. Typically Sambo disallows chokes, thats the jist of it. Savate is, as Thunder said, more then dirty kick boxing. In fact it's a fairly complex style, famed for its lightning fast kicks. If you have any questions, fire away. I was taught chokes... And yeah.. Sambo has it's origins in Judo.. but I'd say it's 60/40 ratio of Folk wrestling to Judo.
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 1:21 pm
Jass Haha I promise to take the Savate questions if you make a thread on Dumog and Panatukan? cool Dumog and Panatukan?? Haha, I don't know that many of these members are even that interested in them, let alone know what they are. Besides, don't you think thats a bit of an unfair trade? A few questions, where as I have to create an entire thread on it? hehe ninja
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:13 am
Thunder Foot Jass Haha I promise to take the Savate questions if you make a thread on Dumog and Panatukan? cool Dumog and Panatukan?? Haha, I don't know that many of these members are even that interested in them, let alone know what they are. Besides, don't you think thats a bit of an unfair trade? A few questions, where as I have to create an entire thread on it? hehe ninja Oooh stickied.. Dumog and Panatukan? What are they then? Feeling too lazy right now to google em..
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:49 pm
Isn't Dumog the Filipino tradition of standing in one spot for a really really really long time and doing nothing, at all, ever....until the end of time?
Or maybe its their style of boxing....
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 10:18 pm
Bruce-Ganked-Lee Isn't Dumog the Filipino tradition of standing in one spot for a really really really long time and doing nothing, at all, ever....until the end of time? Or maybe its their style of boxing.... Correcting myself. Dumog is a grappling style. Panatukan is a boxing style which utilizes fists, fore-arms, elbows, and sometimes head-butts and shoulder rams. I've actually gained more interest in this style of boxing as it also utilizes limb destructions....something I find quite intriguing and would very much like to learn. Does anyone have any video of Panatukan being demonstrated?
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 11:57 pm
Bruce-Ganked-Lee Bruce-Ganked-Lee Isn't Dumog the Filipino tradition of standing in one spot for a really really really long time and doing nothing, at all, ever....until the end of time? Or maybe its their style of boxing.... Correcting myself. Dumog is a grappling style. Panatukan is a boxing style which utilizes fists, fore-arms, elbows, and sometimes head-butts and shoulder rams. I've actually gained more interest in this style of boxing as it also utilizes limb destructions....something I find quite intriguing and would very much like to learn. Does anyone have any video of Panatukan being demonstrated? Videos on Panantukan are very rare. There isn't manyy people practicing the style alone. You can't understand Panantukan without first knowing stick fighting.
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 7:43 pm
Okay, now that I have my own little corner of this guild for discussion on non-asian martial arts, let's see what you people know on the art of armored longsword combat. That's right, I'm talking fully loaded knights grappling with other fully loaded knights.
Now, you kinjitsu fans can say what you will, but in my opinion the European longsword is one of the most balanced and effective melee weapons until the smallsword. It's versatility in unarmored and armored combat knows no bounds.
Now, the cliche foot soldier is wielding a shield with one of these babies. This isn't fully true. Shields were really mostly used during that time only as added protection against arrows during a siege, or for protection against lances on horseback. However, bucklers and targes were common, as both hands can still be used in controlling the blade.
So you get the idea, a couple of soldiers in platemail ready to tango with some of those beautiful longswords. Discuss what you know, and let's exchange some knowledge.
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 9:17 am
Wow... I guess there isn't many people who are interested in martial arts that don't involve Asians, Qi, and mysterious scrolls.
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