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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 6:21 pm
Non-denominational ^^ Basically, we follow the Bible, both testaments. What bothers me is Catholicism. (Sorry, I don't meant to bash) I s'pose it's rubbed off from my mother - she was raised Catholic, but when she moved away from it, and saw all the "lies" involved, she sorta had this "rightous fury". She still has this "fury". heh ^^'
Although I do see some good in the Catholic Religion.
I dunno about denominations. Soemtimes it seems like people are too afraid to move away from traditions, so they drag their children to boring services and endure it themselves. Because some people don 't like change. Those are the churches made up of old people with no teenagers, because they got out as soon as they could.
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 3:16 pm
I really don't know how old you guys are, but (I am young, lets jsut leave it at that) I really do think that our generation is going to be the generation to bring the church truly as one body. Wouldn't that be a glorious day!! A lot of teenagers get that denominations aren't important, sometimes I feel as if the 40 somethings are more religious than they are spiritual....Does that make sense? (I'm trying to offend anyone, just stating my opinion, I could be wrong.)
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 5:35 pm
dragongirl42391 I really don't know how old you guys are, but (I am young, lets jsut leave it at that) I really do think that our generation is going to be the generation to bring the church truly as one body. Wouldn't that be a glorious day!! A lot of teenagers get that denominations aren't important, sometimes I feel as if the 40 somethings are more religious than they are spiritual....Does that make sense? (I'm trying to offend anyone, just stating my opinion, I could be wrong.) I understand what you're saying. Like, the older people in the church are just going through the rituals. They may have very deep faith, but our generation is expressing it in a whole new way.
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:06 pm
Corpse_Bride_131 dragongirl42391 I really don't know how old you guys are, but (I am young, lets jsut leave it at that) I really do think that our generation is going to be the generation to bring the church truly as one body. Wouldn't that be a glorious day!! A lot of teenagers get that denominations aren't important, sometimes I feel as if the 40 somethings are more religious than they are spiritual....Does that make sense? (I'm trying to offend anyone, just stating my opinion, I could be wrong.) I understand what you're saying. Like, the older people in the church are just going through the rituals. They may have very deep faith, but our generation is expressing it in a whole new way. Exactly. i really truly hope that when my generation is in control of the church that there wil be some sort of massive denomination bringing together sort of thing. That would be awesome.
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:24 pm
The most senior form of Christianity around today is Catholicism. The Roman Catholic Church is one of the oldest, along with the Eastern Orthodox Church. Both developed at about the same time, during the Great Schism. It was Constantine of Rome who first popularized Christianity and created Catholicism; nothing remains of the original Christianity, the true Christianity, but a few ancient scrolls and paintings. It was Constantine who set the groundwork for the Schism; the later split of the Roman Empire into the Western Roman and the Byzantine in part fueled the split of the Church. The Eastern Orthodox Church continued as it always had, for it places great emphasis on religion, but during the Renaissance, creative juices and ideas started flowing, giving rise to theological disagreements which in turn drove Luther to publish his ideas. These, in 1555, were what triggered the Reformation: splinter groups of the Catholic Church became the Protestant and Lutheran churches, from which arose many, many others.
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:19 pm
Wow, how many other Pentacostalists are here?
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:00 pm
Galad Damodred The most senior form of Christianity around today is Catholicism. The Roman Catholic Church is one of the oldest, along with the Eastern Orthodox Church. Both developed at about the same time, during the Great Schism. It was Constantine of Rome who first popularized Christianity and created Catholicism; nothing remains of the original Christianity, the true Christianity, but a few ancient scrolls and paintings. It was Constantine who set the groundwork for the Schism; the later split of the Roman Empire into the Western Roman and the Byzantine in part fueled the split of the Church. The Eastern Orthodox Church continued as it always had, for it places great emphasis on religion, but during the Renaissance, creative juices and ideas started flowing, giving rise to theological disagreements which in turn drove Luther to publish his ideas. These, in 1555, were what triggered the Reformation: splinter groups of the Catholic Church became the Protestant and Lutheran churches, from which arose many, many others. Oh really, and where is the proof for that? The current Catholic church ACTUALLY came about from the from the time of Jesus (If you want PM me). Constantine is only popular because he made Christianity the state religion and made it popular. Anywho, you probably guessed that I'm Catholic. On another note, Non-denominational groups are just that, another group, just like another denomination.
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 11:28 pm
Proof? Try a history textbook.
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:24 pm
What history book? The one for retards? I mean really, where is there any substantial proof for Constantine 'creating' the Catholic church.
I think God would have created a Church that the gates of hell would never prevail against it. Just like He said in Mt 16:18. If the true Christian church was gone, then that would make God a liar, because He said "I am with you always, to very end of the age." (Mt 28:19-20).
If the true Christian church was gone, what do you think would happen to all the people between the time it ended and now? Would they go to Hell?
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:43 am
I think my church is listed under Christian in the phone book, nothing more specific, but my friend tells me that Assemblies of God is a denomination, so that's what I am. I don't believe that it's wrong to dispute over the meaning of verses, unless you're saying that it must mean something going against what Jesus is and what He stands for. I think denoms are not only differing in that (I actually don't really think about that) but rather in the way they worship God. I went to a church when I was younger that was more 'calm' in worship, but at my church we dance, raise our hands, go up to the front - we worship Him however we want to. We prophesy, speak in tongues. No swinging from chandeliers (I think they might be too high), but I'd like to say we've got the whole shabang. Some churches are reserved, I guess. We're . . . not.
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:48 am
Spazzed_out_Basil Galad Damodred The most senior form of Christianity around today is Catholicism. The Roman Catholic Church is one of the oldest, along with the Eastern Orthodox Church. Both developed at about the same time, during the Great Schism. It was Constantine of Rome who first popularized Christianity and created Catholicism; nothing remains of the original Christianity, the true Christianity, but a few ancient scrolls and paintings. It was Constantine who set the groundwork for the Schism; the later split of the Roman Empire into the Western Roman and the Byzantine in part fueled the split of the Church. The Eastern Orthodox Church continued as it always had, for it places great emphasis on religion, but during the Renaissance, creative juices and ideas started flowing, giving rise to theological disagreements which in turn drove Luther to publish his ideas. These, in 1555, were what triggered the Reformation: splinter groups of the Catholic Church became the Protestant and Lutheran churches, from which arose many, many others. Oh really, and where is the proof for that? The current Catholic church ACTUALLY came about from the from the time of Jesus (If you want PM me). Constantine is only popular because he made Christianity the state religion and made it popular. Anywho, you probably guessed that I'm Catholic. On another note, Non-denominational groups are just that, another group, just like another denomination. As to what you said about Constantine, you're right. When he met God, he legalized Christianity in Rome. He didn'yt start the Catholic Church. They actually consider (Simon) Peter the first Pope. That's what my history book says at least. By the way, if you read theis, Galad, please PM me I have a question.
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:18 pm
Spazzed_out_Basil What history book? The one for retards? I mean really, where is there any substantial proof for Constantine 'creating' the Catholic church. I think God would have created a Church that the gates of hell would never prevail against it. Just like He said in Mt 16:18. If the true Christian church was gone, then that would make God a liar, because He said "I am with you always, to very end of the age." (Mt 28:19-20). If the true Christian church was gone, what do you think would happen to all the people between the time it ended and now? Would they go to Hell? Have you tried Time and Life's Illustrated History of the World? You would do well to consider whose sources hold greater weight in the academic community before you insult someone. Among scholars, the Old Testament is considered a condensation of ancient writings, legends and historical accounts rife with mistranslation. Among secular scholars, at least. Edit: And just so you know, the Age of the Gospels ended seven years ago. It's not the Age of the Fish anymore.
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:34 pm
Well, I take greater weight with God's words because it is His spoken word. I don't care what the 'modern thinkers' of today's society say because they are only human and can only conjecture about what happened in the past. Plus, I don't get what the edit means. The age Jesus is referring to is not the age guided by the stars. Jesus means He will be with us forever. The word 'age' is sometimes translated as another word.
Plus, do you even know why Constantine converted, not created, but converted to Christianity.
Dude, what do you believe if you think the Bible is wrong?
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:20 pm
Actually Constantine was a lifelong pagan, baptized on his deathbed, too weak to protest. He converted the masses, but all his life was the head priest of the Roman cult Sol Invictus.
Ahh, I understand. You're a fundamentalist. Am I correct in thinking that you take every word of the Holy Bible literally?
I believe... in reasoning and logic, in lessons of the past, in the law of causality, in finding out answers for yourself and being true to yourself. You might say my faith is... humanism. A better word might be pantheist; I believe all religions are a path to harmony and that faiths reflect some aspect of a universal truth. But I do not take the Bible for absolute truth, the way you seem to.
I wrote an essay about people like you, once.
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