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 Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 8:01 pm
let me guess, she's nondenominational christian t00, right?
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Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 8:10 pm
Ash Rail let me guess, she's nondenominational christian t00, right?
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Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 9:00 pm
Yeah, people give us Catholics a pretty hard time, when it's usually the nondenominationals who make the most trouble.
Please remember that.
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Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 9:39 pm
Ash Rail Yeah, people give us Catholics a pretty hard time, when it's usually the nondenominationals who make the most trouble. Please remember that.
christian-bashing just seems like the cool thing to do now.
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Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 9:54 pm
Yeah, its a disgusting trend, which won't die down anytime s00n.
It's been going on for decades, really.
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Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 2:07 pm
Ash Rail Yeah, people give us Catholics a pretty hard time, when it's usually the nondenominationals who make the most trouble. Please remember that. I am an Episcopalian, the denomination most similar to Catholisim.
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Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 7:04 pm
you have to remember, y'all didn't write the bible; we can't blame you for what the bible says. some devout catholics i know support gay marriage or abortion or feminism. you don't have to believe it word-for-word; it's all about interpretation.
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 6:53 pm
Rebel Girl you have to remember, y'all didn't write the bible; we can't blame you for what the bible says. some devout catholics i know support gay marriage or abortion or feminism. you don't have to believe it word-for-word; it's all about interpretation. Exactly. Many of my peers, falling into the use of stereotypes, claim that the Catholic Church is corrupt. I dissagree with them partly because they don't do their research on the matter and partly because I have. Everyone has different perspectives on any given experiences or subjets. The bible is one of those subjects. A person is to read it then reflect on it and find out what the reading means to them. There are millions of Christians and readrs of the bible and everyone has a differnet perspective that will affect their beliefs. Since the beginning of ideas people who have similar beliefs group together and Christianity is no different. Thus denominations were created and the whole tension between them.
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:54 pm
I think the Bible is sexist, sure, but most of the world held the same outlooks at that time. neutral
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:13 pm
I've studied the bible for 5 years, since I went to a catholic high school. What many people don't seem to realize is that it was written by many different people, in a context totally different from ours. I think that the bible is meant to be a guideline, not law. Sure, jesus preaches about loving your neighbor, etc. which is fine and dandy, but some of the stories in the bible are more about meaning then literalness. Also, many stories were combined, for example the story of Noah's arc, which states -if I remember correctly- that he was at sea 40 days and 40 nights, but also for a hundred days. This is the result of an amalgamation of different stories. Yes the bible often portrays women in a dated "sexist" fashion, because it represents women from the time it was written.
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:15 pm
Ash Rail Wiccagirl112 super_nerd42 You have to remember that the books of the bible were written by men. There are other sacred Chritistian books such as the gospel of Mary Magdalane and Thomas. Someone had to choose which books would be inlcuded in the bible and that was also a group of men at the council of Nycea. There are hundreds of other books. Just a factor that may change percpective on what you read.
I was gonna use her as an example She was displayed as a whore but who ever have heard about the theory that she was Jesus' wife!!! Even though the Bible clearly displays sexist opinions I can't help but think 'be rational' the Bible was written about life over 2000 years ago (bearing in mind it was written about 200AD) life was different them sexism has only become over the last few hundred years so...we just have to deal, it demonstrates times are changing that we have noticed it & find a problem with it!!!The bible wasn't written at any given moment, it's a collection of several different books, written over vast spaces of time, and translated again and again. And no, Mary Magdelene was never said to be a whore, that's just part of the story other people have added to it. People who actually read the bible would know that. And Dan Brown seriously confused a whole lot of very impressionable people. Where in the bible does it speak of Mary Magdalene? I can't seem to remember, I'd like to take another look.
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 3:10 pm
AgentM I've studied the bible for 5 years, since I went to a catholic high school. What many people don't seem to realize is that it was written by many different people, in a context totally different from ours. I think that the bible is meant to be a guideline, not law. Sure, jesus preaches about loving your neighbor, etc. which is fine and dandy, but some of the stories in the bible are more about meaning then literalness. Also, many stories were combined, for example the story of Noah's arc, which states -if I remember correctly- that he was at sea 40 days and 40 nights, but also for a hundred days. This is the result of an amalgamation of different stories. Yes the bible often portrays women in a dated "sexist" fashion, because it represents women from the time it was written.
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 3:34 pm
I never really liked a bible even though i believe in god. Certain things, I believe, are not true. I dont believe that moses actually walked the sea and god drown ramses. I heard that ramses were never died of drowning and his body was found by archaelogist. I dont believe certain things in the bible.
However I do believe Noah story since their was another story closely related to a great flood from sumerian i think.
I believe Dan Brown and the book Holy grail, Holy blood, just spark an conversery that were never true.
Sometimes i think the bible were only trying to make a perfect society with a religous context
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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 6:21 am
there was magdalene.
but then she's being portrayed as a slut nowadays ever since the da vinci code was published...
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:51 pm
all I gotta say is Dogma...
I know its a movie, how can you believe a movie!?
Hear me out...if the pen holders were male then they probably wrote the bible to be more male dominated...patriaical...something like that which can be interpreted as sexist.
I do think that the pen holders were men because "back in the day" I think....not sure, but I think that women were not allowed to write, or they weren't allowed to unless they had power...sorry, some of the stuff in me brain has been lost.
Also, most of the stories might've been lost in translation...the current version of the bible has probably been translated 500 times through time to common english...or any other language.
Here's an example where translation has changed the story slightly:
The story about Moses parting the Red Sea...in the original...or one of the first copies the language that it was written in red and reeds those stick thingies that grow in marsh areas...well red and reeds meant the same thing, so if it was a sea of reeds being parted that would still be a big deal to most of us, but there was a volcano in Greece...on the island Santorini. It erupted, really huge....bigger than Mt St Hellen's explosion, with lots of dust (making the sky turn black) and the water would part after an eruption like that causing shallow water...
okay, to get back on track...it just shows that some of the translation has been misinterpreted, and that the pen holders put their point of view in the bible.
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