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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 7:57 am
ChaoticAngelofElvenBlood Yea, Seimei being nice to anyone but Ritsuka is just plain weird. It was sweet but still weird. S'allright I understand. And now I have more to ramble about! Mwahahaha! All of the relationships are different. Seimei ans Soubi's relation ship was kinda like a carpenter and his hammer. Seimei simply using Soubi as his weapon/tool. Not a very good relationship. Soubi and Ritsuka's relationship is all in all pretty good. Sure Soubi lies. A lot. But he still truely cares about Ritsuka. He protects him from those who may hurt him. He takes care of him. Like when in book four he tucked Ritsuka in. He gives him tender kisses and holds his hand. And Ritsuka. Ritsuka is just the best. He accepts Soubi. Just the way he is. He fights with him and doesn't leave. And in book six he holds Soubi after he found out that Seimei's death was fake. So sweet. Natsuo and Yoji have a great rtelationship. They stay with one another. And are always together. Yamato and Kouya have a pretty good relatonship. They worry about each other and take care of each other. Ritsu- sensei and Soubi's relationship is...kida strained from what I can see. Though I think in the begining they had a pretty good one. Soubi really looked up to him. Leared all he could. I know Ritsu really cares about Soubi. Just he doesn't like anyone to know that he cares. Seimei and Ritsuka's relationship is a good one. Seimei cares about Ritsuka so much. It's touching really. He watches out for him and takes care of him. Cleans his wounds after their mom goes nuts. He teaches him all the thing that he doesn't know. He lets him sleep in his bed and use his computer. And when he knew that he had to leave he left Sobi to Ritsuka to make sure there'd be someone to watch out for him. Seimei and Nisei is exactly like it is with Seimei and Soubi. Nisei is just a tool. And Seimei is his wielder. You put it goodley ^^ i agree with you the relationships are like that arnt they?
you put in so much depth into it i feel useless to any, if i was to discribe something like Midori's and Ai's relationship it'd e something like:
''they get along well and even though sometimes they loose (or mostly loose) they still and always are there for each other, Ai also cares for Midori when he gets hurt and Midori wipes it off and tell's her its nothing.
with Mei and Mimuro Mei gets all worked up about their relationship whilst on the other hand Mimuro is relaxed and calm about it, it would be good if we saw these two again we defently need to see their relationship to progress.''
and thats bout it really i cant think of anything eles for now. ^^;
althoug when Ritsuka's fighter gets released (if we ever se him/her) i would love to see how their relationship works out, would they get along when they first meet each other, not get along, or dont get along at first but then gradually get along.
it will depend really, what i would like to happen is that they knew each other before Ritsuka moved schools and they get along before with Ritsuka non the wiser he/she is his fighter and then later out finds out he(she) is his fighter.
i sure hope he(she)is a nice person and people dont start thrashing them just because he is Ritsuka's proper fighter, though i can imagine they will....
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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 12:23 pm
Hehe ^^; Yea I may be 15 but I study some physcology. I really get into to it when people ask me about relationships. I feel bad now! I forgot about Midori x Ai and Mimuro x Mei! Well now I have to fix that.
Midori and Ai's relationship is probably the least angst filled one of the anime/manga. Midori treats Ai like she's a person and he worries about her. And Ai cares about him so much. Like in the scanlations for volume 7 when Ai's talking to Soubi about understanding how he feels.
Mimuro and Mei is the other least angst filled. Mei really like Mimuro but I think she just doesn't quite know how to express herself about how she feels. So she's always changing her mind and calling Mimuro a jerk. And Mimuro just wants to help her and be there for her. He's a really nice person from what I can tell. Kinda like the big brother type.
Well that's all I got. ^^; Yea I really get into things when it's something I like. So here's all my lovely ranting on the subject at hand.
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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 1:11 pm
ChaoticAngelofElvenBlood Hehe ^^; Yea I may be 15 but I study some physcology. I really get into to it when people ask me about relationships. I feel bad now! I forgot about Midori x Ai and Mimuro x Mei! Well now I have to fix that. Midori and Ai's relationship is probably the least angst filled one of the anime/manga. Midori treats Ai like she's a person and he worries about her. And Ai cares about him so much. Like in the scanlations for volume 7 when Ai's talking to Soubi about understanding how he feels. Mimuro and Mei is the other least angst filled. Mei really like Mimuro but I think she just doesn't quite know how to express herself about how she feels. So she's always changing her mind and calling Mimuro a jerk. And Mimuro just wants to help her and be there for her. He's a really nice person from what I can tell. Kinda like the big brother type. Well that's all I got. ^^; Yea I really get into things when it's something I like. So here's all my lovely ranting on the subject at hand. You study physcology? thats really awsome that is! do you like it?
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 9:34 am
Hehe ^^; Yea I kinda do. Lotsa research time is put into it. I do like it! I like being able to read people and sorta know what they're thinking.
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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 2:24 pm
ChaoticAngelofElvenBlood Hehe ^^; Yea I kinda do. Lotsa research time is put into it. I do like it! I like being able to read people and sorta know what they're thinking. Thats really cool ^^ im nothing like that really, though im extremly good when its telling who is seme and uke.
though when it coems to personalitys other than that im rubbish really, i dident notice that Soubi used to act exactly like Ritsuka when younger untill somebody pointed it out, that reason that i just said is one of the reasons as to prooved how Ritsuka is a uke to otherwise we would all go and say stuff like how Soubi done Ritsu up the a** but i dont think that will happen.
though a lot of madness in people of thinking who is seme and ukes going on's will just might happen, though Loveless IS a shojou after all and when non shounen-ai anime come in people have different opinion's on who is seme and who is uke, its the same with KKM.
strange really, then again i think mangaka's do it to throw people of corse cause its not like a official thing, even when it comes to Ritsu x Soubi and Seimei x Ritsuka it happens a bit, the Seimei bit of when she was planning to have a 30 year OL (old lady) possesing him THANK GOD her editor made her think otherwise. ^^;
and the Ritsu x Soubi thing is when in the manga Nagisa said to Ritsu ''you knight in shiny armor has lost'' (meaning Soubi) so all in all official like there is no wrong and right, though mostly people dont tend to follow personalitys and such and i dont mean in the master/servant thing eithier.
and all in all i still reckon (and know) that Ritsuka is in fact uke most of the time over Soubi in personality wise, however in master/servant wise Soubi is mostly uke, (yes i say mostly cause even sometimes it can be like where Soubi is controlling Ritsuka, plus some offcial pictures (or 1 at least) have Soubi with the chain in his hands and Ritsuka with the cahin round his neck.
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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:00 pm
Yea, I just enjoy reading people. I think it's fun. That and so I can get around phycobable from my family. I never really noticed that Soubi was like Ritsuka when he was little. Huh now I do see it! Shoujo can be misleading about the whole seme uke thing. I am so very happy about Seimei not being posessed by an old lady. I would cry. A lot. Personality is a big key ingediant for seme and uke. The only time I can really see Soubi as uke with Ritsuka is like if Soubi asked Ritsuka to "enter him" That's it.
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:48 am
ChaoticAngelofElvenBlood Yea, I just enjoy reading people. I think it's fun. That and so I can get around phycobable from my family. I never really noticed that Soubi was like Ritsuka when he was little. Huh now I do see it! Shoujo can be misleading about the whole seme uke thing. I am so very happy about Seimei not being posessed by an old lady. I would cry. A lot. Personality is a big key ingediant for seme and uke. The only time I can really see Soubi as uke with Ritsuka is like if Soubi asked Ritsuka to "enter him" That's it. Yea i agree with you, and/or if Ritsuka got older he might change, however Soubi might change and they might swap now and then?
but of course thats the future and if he does change, all in all at the end of the day ''there is no official uke and seme'' maybe i should learn to go around and say that to people instead of getting worked up (i gets worked up over right and wrong things) who i truelly is uke and seme at the end of the day, that way no worrys and professional and all is clear, i think it'd be easier for me to cause i respects peoples opinions a lot to, trouble is people go around saying stuff like ''ooh he is So uke'' this and that getting into arguments etc cause of fangirlyness, even to the extent of people thinking that when they are seme and uke they think they would be seme and uke all the time.
which aint true, sure there be people that are truly uke all the time and seme all the time, but like 90 per cent of the time its all seke here on in (unofficial name for seme and uke depending.)
I mean theres people out there that think Seimei is uke at times and i can let that go, and he is meant to be the defiante seme of the story,so if he is then everybody eles can be uke and seme with other people.
with Ritsuka he can be a seme at times when Soubi is down, also theres Yukio to which is Kouga's designated ''girl for Ritsuka'' but all in all apart from that he is a uke.
with Soubi he is: uke with Ritsu and Seimei seme: with Ritsuka and Kiyo
and so on with other characters, i mean even we couldent even tell who was uke and seme with natsuo and youji before, and sometimes even YAMATO seemed like an uke to.
and Nagisa seemed like and uke and seme and the list.. goes on..
yea O__O that would of been bad... even if i do get worked up over the whole Soubi and Ritsuka thing at the end of the day really truly i shouldent care so long as Seimei is 100 per cent seme, (think its because though Soubi and Ritsuka got a chance to end up together, but yea.. Seimei being a uke would be more tragic.) i got worked up today cause there was this picture of the 20 year old Ritsuka ( earless but that dosent matter of this convo had to put it in somewhere) and his height was 190cm i dont know height but i knew it was very tall.
but i look back and think ''why did i get worked up over it for?'' height dosent matter though if he was possed that'd be a problem >>;; especially if Chacko came along. eek
think i should draw a picture of Seimei running away from Chaco sometime. >.<;;
*sigh* i thank thee Aarinfantasy for proving Seimei is a seme and i thank thee Kouga Yun publisher (he rocks at times. xd )
(edit): all though on the last note i got to thank the Ritsuka x Soubi fans for making me a bigger Ritsuka x Yukio fan, i dident start to like it cause of them but.. they made me a tougher person. xd
boy.. i been in this fandom so long i thought i would never like Ritsuka x Yukio ever.
(edit): also anouther thing i forgot to say is last night i was looking for some Sei x Rit stuff, anyways i found this Tsubasa LJ thing and on there the was speaking about Ashura and was saying how he would be uke and not seme.
and i think they also implied that Fye was a seme to him to, now if Fye is a seme with Ashura then Soubi most defently be seme to.
(dont mind me XD haha i always imagined if Mokona turned into a human and he and Fye got it on Fye would be seme with him.)
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 5:06 pm
I know. Since in shojou there technically aren't official seme or uke. That's a very good point. I should start sayin that stuff. I also get worked up over what's right and wrong. Like this one time my friend Robby told me I was saying yaoi wrong. So I went off into one of my 30min long rants and then hit him upside the head. If Ritsuka were to wind up with any girl it has to be Yuiko. No one else. To me Kio seems to just scream uke. I have to say that. I want to see a 20 year ol' Ritsuka! He has to be adorible! And hot. Chaco still scares me. *twitch* I have to admit I do like Ritsuka x Yuiko. I think she'd go well with him. She's so sensitive and caring of Ritsuka and plus she takes care of him. Not with her own power but like when she told Shinonome-sensei to call Soubi to help Ritsuka. I can see Fye as seme to Ashura. Also mokona as a human....I never thought of that. I like it! Yea I can see Fye as seme to a human Mokona. I'd like that.
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:16 am
ChaoticAngelofElvenBlood I know. Since in shojou there technically aren't official seme or uke. That's a very good point. I should start sayin that stuff. I also get worked up over what's right and wrong. Like this one time my friend Robby told me I was saying yaoi wrong. So I went off into one of my 30min long rants and then hit him upside the head. If Ritsuka were to wind up with any girl it has to be Yuiko. No one else. To me Kio seems to just scream uke. I have to say that. I want to see a 20 year ol' Ritsuka! He has to be adorible! And hot. Chaco still scares me. *twitch* I have to admit I do like Ritsuka x Yuiko. I think she'd go well with him. She's so sensitive and caring of Ritsuka and plus she takes care of him. Not with her own power but like when she told Shinonome-sensei to call Soubi to help Ritsuka. I can see Fye as seme to Ashura. Also mokona as a human....I never thought of that. I like it! Yea I can see Fye as seme to a human Mokona. I'd like that. Yea he does dont he, anouther thing i can prove on the whole seme uke confusness of it all is that one time a friend PMed me and says that Soubi was uke with all.
which aint true his personality dosent even scream uke, dosent scream seme eithier though it screams totally seke, its like how Subaru acts in X he screams seke whilst Kamui screams uke.
and then anouther Ritsuka x Soubi fan said that Kiyo would be his one and only uke which is silly really, plus Kif Rit and Kiyo got together Kiyo would be seme to Rit-chan.
ad yea i agree he does scream uke dont he, he is like Soubi's second wife. XD
and yes i know waht you mean.. i love thier relationship and she makes him happy, reading volume sic makes me love it, with people it makes them think Yukio is his true fighter but i dident feel that, i bet people felt inside their hearts for thier relationship but of coruse they are just to madly obsessed and closed minded to admit that Ritsuka and Yukio make a good pair!
although now i wouldent mind Yukio if she was his true fighter i dont think it anymore im waaay past that.
have you seen Ashura before? awsome i wouldent know cause i havent seen Ashura ebfore really.. the only Ashura i seen was the very femmie version that liked that guy that looks like the other Ashura/the villain from MKR (Zagato i think? yea thats it the one that liked Emeraude.)
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:01 pm
Yea, that's it! Soubi is very much a seke. Not complete uke or seme. Kio is like Soubi's wife! XD No matter how obsessive I am I cannot deny it when I see two characters that I know would make a good pair. I don't really think Yuiko could be a fighter unit. It just wouldn't seem right. Plus I support the whole "there is no Loveless fighter." kinda like the name implies.Yea Ashura does look pretty femmine.
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:36 am
ChaoticAngelofElvenBlood Yea, that's it! Soubi is very much a seke. Not complete uke or seme. Kio is like Soubi's wife! XD No matter how obsessive I am I cannot deny it when I see two characters that I know would make a good pair. I don't really think Yuiko could be a fighter unit. It just wouldn't seem right. Plus I support the whole "there is no Loveless fighter." kinda like the name implies.Yea Ashura does look pretty femmine. Yea i know what you mean, i mean i would of preffered it myself if it was Kiyo x Soubi but i cant even get into Kiyo x Soubi cause i know that Kiyo is defently a uke god knows how other people do it. -_-;; he practally is always having a go at him like a hosue wife even more than Ritsuka.
with Ritsuka's personality he is more like a combination of house wife slash little girl, one minute he is house wife but the next Soubi manages to shut him up and make him blush. xd
yea she dosent really suit it does she? the first time i thoguth of her being his fighter iw as like... omg... and imagined her makind tons of mistakes and them two trying and trying and trying to battle in a non emotional way, more like.. training practise during battle OO;; i even imagine Yayoi being Ritsuka's fighter more than her. xd
I think he does but... i dont think Kouga will show them, i have a feeling Seimei killed them to.
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 4:43 pm
Yea, the only person I can see Kio seme with is in the crack paring of KioxYayoi. No one else. He is more like a wife than ritsuka is! I love it when Soubi gets Ritsuka to shut up and make him blush. She would make a lot of mistakes if she were ever to be a fighter. XD omg Yayoi fighter! I would laugh if he was a fighter. That does sound like something Seimei would do. Like one day Ritsuka's fighter comes to their house looking for him but Seimei meets him before the fighter could get to Ritsuka and then he kills him! To keep Ritsuka for himself.
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 5:28 pm
ChaoticAngelofElvenBlood Yea, the only person I can see Kio seme with is in the crack paring of KioxYayoi. No one else. He is more like a wife than ritsuka is! I love it when Soubi gets Ritsuka to shut up and make him blush. She would make a lot of mistakes if she were ever to be a fighter. XD omg Yayoi fighter! I would laugh if he was a fighter. That does sound like something Seimei would do. Like one day Ritsuka's fighter comes to their house looking for him but Seimei meets him before the fighter could get to Ritsuka and then he kills him! To keep Ritsuka for himself. Kiyo x Yayoi? yea i agree though i can imagine Kiyo would be seme to Ritsuka to but they are even crakier than Kiyo x Yayoi i dont think Kiyo would want to go off with his best friends ''boyfriend'' and the person he hate's brother.
Yea that sounds exactly what Seimei would do, i imagined he would of killed him when he used somebody eles to fake his death, though that could happen to, did you see the love letter chapter? its meant to come up in volume 7 me thinks.
I dont get the goldfish thing though.... why the hell would Seimei kill a goldfish?
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 10:39 pm
Eee...That would be a real cracky pairing. Though I do think the two get along well. As seen in scanlations. Seimei could have done something like. I don't understand it either. Why would he kill the goldfish? Was it somehow symblistic?
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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 5:14 am
ChaoticAngelofElvenBlood Eee...That would be a real cracky pairing. Though I do think the two get along well. As seen in scanlations. Seimei could have done something like. I don't understand it either. Why would he kill the goldfish? Was it somehow symblistic? Yea i just dont understand it eithier.. it could of just died but they showed a death of a goldfish and that kind of thing is like pointing to a hint.
ooh maan... lol i remember reading a fic based on Ritsuka's goldfish and Seimei, the fic made Seimei look stupid. xd
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